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As there are many types of hernias the recovery time will differ if you need surgery. That is a good sign that you are able to push it back in. You need to visit a doctor as soon as you can to determine the type of hernia it is. If you are having excruciating pain/throw up you should go to the ER. I would advise not reading about it too much on the internet…let the doctor take care of you. Fortunately I am able to work out with my hernia…wish you the best…
 

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Had the surgery last week. It was the weirdest experience of my life, I've never had any kind of surgery before. The anesthesiologist told me he was going to start, and the next thing I knew I was waking up in a different room with a terrible headache. The surgeon said no weight training for at least 2 weeks.

I went to the gym today and did some stuff with just the bar just to see how it felt. Squat, deadlift and overhead press felt OK, but I can't get into position to bench because it feels like the incisions will tear open if I arch my lower back.

Afterward I did the elliptical but after about 15 minutes I got so bored I couldn't stand it any longer and went home.

The good news is with the mesh they put in, that area is stronger now than it was before. The surgeon said there's a chance I'll get another hernia on the other side though. Bad genetics ****ing me over again :(
 

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Lol bad genetics, that's a good one :). S*** happens man, good genes or not.

All in all it looks like you're going to have come out of this pretty alright. Hell a month or two off might do the cns and adrenals some good.

And unless you haven't been eating, you will retain most if not all of your mass. Strength will probably be down some, but that is CNS related and it comes back fast.

I took 1-2 months of at the start of last year and was drinking 4-5 nights a week and my strength didn't go in the shi*ter.

First 2-3 weeks back you take it really easy. First week just go through the motions, nice and light. Were talking 50-60%, not hard at all. 2nd week you maybe go up to 80%ish, you can feel the weight but all reps are still easily completed. Week three you go 95-100% depending on how you feel.

It won't take more than 3-4 weeks to get your strength back and be in PR territory unless you have been eating f*** all. As I say time off can do favourable things to cortisol/test ratios and stuff like that, so you might be able to get past some old walls more easily.

Chin up, and let's see the 400/500 squat/dead. You may also want to look into preventative exercises, a lot of powerlifters do stuff like that. Really light stuff that keeps them injury free. How much stretching were you doing? You're body needs this stuff when you've got 400-500lbs baring upon it.

Get some cardio in over the next few weeks, eat well, and you'll kill it.

Quagmire

PS- Time to starting eating right and getting some basic supps. You need that stuff for growth and repair :).
 

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Yeah, I'm probably going to wait another week before I do any weight training at all. Cardio is so ****ing boring though, I can't stand it. I figure I'll take a book with me and read it while I ride the stationary bike.

Unfortunately, predisposition to hernias is hereditary. I asked my parents and apparently they are common in my mom's side of the family. The surgeon said I probably would have gotten one eventually even if I never lifted weights. As Rippetoe said when a trainee asked him what technique flaw caused their hernia; "You used bad form when choosing your parents" :p
 

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Well if there is a predisposition you should definitely be strengthing up you're core (yes I did just use that word).

I know abs get worked hard with squats and deads, however there is always going to be imbalances, and at 400-500lbs you risk injury. This is a lot of what accessory is about really, making sure nothing is weak.

I actually had a hernia when I was 3, doesn't seem to have bothered me at all.

Quagmire
 

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I'm sorry to hear about your hernia dude... Use the time to rest to allow your body to heal. Maybe use different squat variations to help strength your abdominal wall? I find front squats and zerchers really hit my abs.

Hope you get better soon... as Quag said, chin up... you'll get through this and come back stronger!
 

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Unfortunately there's not anything you can do to prevent inguinal hernias, if you're genetically predisposed to them :( Except of course, avoiding increasing your intra abdominal pressure, which means not doing the Valsalva maneuver, which is the only way to lift safely, so that isn't an option. If I get another hernia on the other side I'll just have to go thru this again.

I've been doing some more cardio but it is so ****ing boring, I can't do it more than 20 minutes at a time. I don't understand how some people can do this every day for an hour +.
 

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I get to start lifting again tomorrow. I'm pretty excited about it.

I've been thinking about linear progression and how I never really pushed the limits of it far enough, since I never ate enough while I was on it. I'm going to try to keep increasing my numbers with it past where I was when I had to stop because of the hernia. I'm thinking a couple of lbs of ground beef, half a gallon of milk, a few tablespoons of peanut butter, a dozen eggs, a couple cups of oatmeal and a few scoops of protein powder every day should help.

Also ordered a belt and knee sleeves and will start using those for squat/deadlift/overhead press and maybe bench as soon as they show up.
 

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01/13/09

Squat:

3 x 5 x 225 lbs

Bench press:

3 x 5 x 155 lbs

Deadlift:

5 x 315 lbs

Felt fine for the most part. The area where they put in the mesh tightens up when I arch, so I can’t get into perfect position to bench yet, but other than that felt totally normal. A little sore today but nothing bad.

Definitely lost a LOT of strength, but that is to be expected with my genetics after taking a month off. Going to take quite a bit of time to get back to where I was :(
 

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:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

Your genetics? From what I have seen of the lifting world your genetics are better than average. You have been eating like s***, weigh under 200, and still manage to get close to a 500 dead. If you think that is sub-par you are kidding yourself on.

And I told you, you don't lose muscle after a month. Your CNS just needs to come back online, this will happen over the course of a few weeks.

Pull your head out your a**, the world is not over.

I want to see 500 and soon,

Quagmire
 

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01/16/09

Squat:

3 x 5 x 235 lbs

Bench press:

3 x 5 x 165 lbs

I was supposed to overhead press but I wanted to see how the hernia repair felt. It feels totally normal now, I can get into position no problem.

Deadlift:

5 x 325 lbs

The plan for now is simple linear progression at least to back to where I was before the operation, and hopefully I'll be able to push it beyond that point. All lifts felt good today and I'll keep adding 10 lbs to each lift every workout as long as possible.
 

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Quagmire911 said:
:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

Your genetics? From what I have seen of the lifting world your genetics are better than average. You have been eating like s***, weigh under 200, and still manage to get close to a 500 dead. If you think that is sub-par you are kidding yourself on.

And I told you, you don't lose muscle after a month. Your CNS just needs to come back online, this will happen over the course of a few weeks.

Pull your head out your a**, the world is not over.

I want to see 500 and soon,

Quagmire
I hope you're right about the CNS thing. As for my diet, I plan on implementing some changes starting next week :up:
 

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01/19/10

Squat:

3 x 5 x 245 lbs

Bench press:

4 x 175 lbs (failed 5th rep)
4 x 170 lbs (failed 5th rep)
4 x 165 lbs (spotter touched bar on 5th rep)

What else is new.

Deadlift:

5 x 335 lbs

My grip felt weak, but my grip strength usually comes back very quickly after a layoff so I’m not worried about it.

Will start posting diet next time... went to the grocery store today & stocked up on meat, vegetables, tuna, cottage cheese, etc.
 

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Glad to see your still at it Kerpal. That hernia must have sucked big time.
 

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Hey Itallion. Haven't see you post in a while. Are you still training?

It actually wasn't that bad. There was no pain when I had the hernia, and I was a bit sore for a couple days after the surgery, but now I feel perfectly fine. It's like it never happened.

The worst part of the whole thing (other than not being able to train) was actually waking up after the surgery. I was extremely dizzy, but the nurses gave me some anti-nausea stuff.
 

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Not really so much. Haven't trained seriously since July. I'm really trying to get back into the flow of everything.

Regardless if it hurts, i can hurt the pocket more haha.

I see we've got some charming gentlemen like fellows flooding accomplished journals. Oh boy....
 

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Kerpal, still pretty solid numbers for someone coming off a hernia repair. Just be careful not to re-aggravate the injury. Are you doing more stuff to strength your abdominal wall?
 

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camdry90 said:
how do you have such terrible bench #'s and high deadlift #'s... i can almost double your bench #'s and i can't deadlift 500lbs...
My left arm has a congenital defect that holds back my presses, but grip strength isn't affected.
 

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Fuglydude said:
Kerpal, still pretty solid numbers for someone coming off a hernia repair. Just be careful not to re-aggravate the injury. Are you doing more stuff to strength your abdominal wall?
No, there's not really anything you can do prevent inguinal hernias if you're predisposed to them :( The surgeon said the area should be stronger now with the mesh he put in than it was before the surgery.
 
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Kerpal said:
My left arm has a congenital defect that holds back my presses, but grip strength isn't affected.
Is this frustration, or did you actually get it checked out?

And I don't see how strengthening the abdominal wall could be a bad thing, even if it doesn't help. It will still help your strengh.
 
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