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Posted another thread about me being butthurt about girls flaking on me. I'm starting to realize that girls go to clubs to GET LAID, not hand out their phone numbers. I touched on some experience on my other post.

This explains why I've never been able to get a day 2 from a club.

What I need to do is approach, attract, dance, isolate, escalate, and close.

Oh my, sounds just like the mystery method. What do you know.

I've been treating club game like I've been treating daygame.

Phone numbers aren't ****. Therefore, escalation is VITAL.

I can do this.
 

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Stepping back into the arena tonight, a Friday. After a spectacular crash & burn on Tuesday, I spent the last few days mostly sleeping. I'm still not quite confident or enthusiastic, but I'm still going out. No caffiene since Tuesday either, but my mood still fluctuates. Must be withdrawal symptoms, something I'm pretty familiar with now.

Today's plans will be to swim/exercise, eat a light meal (chicken and tons of broccoli for energy), and head out to salsa. Do that until about 1130, then head to the club, using the momentum from salsa dancing on that night, and attempt to pull. F*ck phone numbers. I'll be putting out signs for my business after the club, then finally going to bed.

Saturday I'll have to wake up early for a meeting, when I get back I'll finish sleeping. When I wake up I'll go work out, then find something to do until I head to another club and attempt to pull.

Sunday I will be volunteering for my church, I'll be tired, but I can get phone numbers if I wish then.

Will post weekend field report on Monday, as I've blocked sosuave on my home computer.

Lastly, F*CK this area, F*CK how the my job forces me to be beta, and F*CK girls that judge me for having this job. F*cking skanks.
 

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Vice said:
I'm sitting here in my dorm room, studying how to buy real estate with no money down, and I can hear my room mate play Call of Duty. The clanging of a grenade and staccato of gunfire with an occasional expletive drifts into my room, and I can't help but kind of feel a mixed sense of pity and superiority. I've already done 80 push ups today, ran a mile and a half, and did a few pull ups.

Planning to go to a nearby college to sarge it up, and most guys here on base are safe at home playing video games, while I'm out there busting my ego trying to pick up women. Hell I might not even work up the balls to do it today, but at least I'm getting out there.

My xbox 360 and laptop remain unsold despite bargain prices; it's time to take some pictures. basic marketing 101!

still challenged with jerking off. at least i'm not looking at porn anymore, or playing video games. I havent had an energy drink for a few days, and my face is clearing up. sleep is a good friend; it helps me get my energy levels back.

im also still challenged with even getting into a club. The only nights i can go to a club are tuesdays, thursdays and fridays, because the only club im old enough to get into is a gay club, and those nights are the nights that girls are the most plentiful. sometimes i get there too early and get bored and leave, and other times i get there and its crowded, and my social anxiety goes up and i b*tch out.

all over campus I look around and there are house parties everywhere, and beautiful girls walking by me. its like theres a glass wall: there are parties EVERYWHERE, but I don't KNOW anybody!
You need to save about $50,000-$80,000 in cash to buy real estate properly. Assuming it's for investment and you plan to rent it and live elsewhere.

Speaking of which, don't bother buying a house to live in unless your investment income (profit / passive income) pays for it. Stay in a cheap rental place and buy investment properties to rent.

I work in the industry ... Currently saving for down payment on first investment house.
 

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Quiksilver said:
You need to save about $50,000-$80,000 in cash to buy real estate properly. Assuming it's for investment and you plan to rent it and live elsewhere.

Speaking of which, don't bother buying a house to live in unless your investment income (profit / passive income) pays for it. Stay in a cheap rental place and buy investment properties to rent.

I work in the industry ... Currently saving for down payment on first investment house.
Well my friend, conventional thinking will get you conventional results. When you say your work in the "industry", what exactly do you mean by that?
 

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Crap weekend btw.

Friday I went out salsa dancing, there were NO attractive girls. I ended up dancing with a few women and leaving earlier than normal to the club. The club also had only two attractive girls, and I was so tired that I didn't feel like approaching. I only put out a few signs before I decided that I was tired and went home early.

Saturday I spent the day exercising with plans of going out, but I opted to stay home to save money.

Sunday I went to volunteer at a church. I had a good time meeting people, but no attractive girls. Ended up going to a college age youth meeting, no attractive girls there either. Drank a 20 oz. Red Bull, first bit of caffiene since last Tuesday. I ended up staying up until 5 in the morning and waking up with a few hours of sleep because of it. Good to know that my body is getting sensitive to it again, that means I'm making progress. I'm at the point where sodas and energy drinks are far too sweet for me and not worth the money or health.

I need to move to an area where women take pride in their appearance and have more competition.
 

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Became a mod on this site yesterday. I can finally stop asking random mods to edit my thread title (no matter how eye-catching it may be) and just do it myself.

I also turned 21. I thought I would be getting laid left and right, but in reality, nothing has really changed except that I can get into more venues.

I'm considering not drinking at all, because I usually go out by myself, and I have to drive to the bars since I live far away.

I've stopped reading so much pickup online and just got out there and gained experience. My ego still gets assaulted every time I go out, but I learn SO MUCH.

One thing that I've started to do is when a woman says "I've got a boyfriend", what I will do is say "Perfect. You're going to be my wing girl tonight." Boom. Pressure is OFF, and I'm talking to a cute girl (social proof) and I'm also using a woman's intuition to help me find the most approachable girl. I haven't had the boyfriend come and talk to me yet, but when it does eventually happen I'll just explain to him that she told me they were together and I'm having her help me pick out other girls that seem available, and if I make him uncomfortable I'll leave her alone.

I also do this to those "stunning" blonde "tens" that the majority of guys drool over, simply because I am NOT attracted to them. But that's my "opener".

The loud obnoxious music in clubs bothers me, but I realized last night (after using the search function) that it's actually a GOOD thing, because what I can do is physically move a girl from the loud part to the quiet part of the club.

I've also made the choice to buy a more economical car. They are gay as hell, but I drive alot, and the money I save on gas will pay off the car. Once my business is established I'm going to buy a '69 Mustang to tinker around with.

I haven't been exercising because I'm lazy, and because it's f*cking hot outside. But mostly because I'm lazy. That's probably why I don't have alot of motivation to approach as much. But whatever.
 

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I agree, stop drinking 100%. I also am never going to drink again!! Personally that's the only thing that makes seance to me, but if others want to drink once in a while, I don't mind, I'm not gonna be like "I'm never talking to you again", if they want to, ok, their mistake in my opinion, but acceptable, it also can't be that bad or can it? I will ingest alcohol when it has benefits for me other then fun, as a medicine only. (I gotta learn more about this tho).

But if you make girls so uncomfortable that they have to say "I got a boyfriend" then my friend, you have some changes you need to do. Get this through your head!! If you approach nicely, in a sexual way but not make her uncofortable, you won't get "assaulted". Assaulted is when you do something wrong. Even nice\cool guys do that, nice guys sometimes come off as creeps\wussys when they aren't because they aer too direct or too apssive, learn the mid point. When a girl sees a guy acting strange, she may not realize that you are a nice guy and still be scared of you as if you were a total nutcase. Or she may recognize that you are a cool guy, but no attraction no nothing. I think your ability to attract a women, btw, it's related to testosterone\health, not sure how much, but I think it's a lot. In other words if someone is continuously getting badly rejected they should figure that out

It's ok to be attracted to girls, ok to show it, not ok to care too much (for your ego and so).But I feel like you are trying to no seek a girl's approval. Well, be careful about that. one thing is to not be desperate to seek her approval and another is to try to seduce a girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I made that error in thinking before, I think you are making it too, but if no, at least it's here for others. GTG post later. Examples of seeking approval i am talking about:giving too many compliments, begging or buuying drinks,playing her a guitar song in midnight in a full moon night
examples of atttracting: using kino right, using eye contact right, yes giving compliments, etc.
just trying to make a point across, not debating these things (for example buynig a drink may be a good move sometimes who knows? i hope i eplxained myself clearly here)

btw just my opinion, not saying i am right 100%, could be wrong in some aspects, not seeing it tho so comments welcome if you think otehrwise
 

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I rarely get the "I have a boyfriend", the reason I brought it up is because it came out of me so naturally and worked so well that I had to share it.
 

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I bought a surfboard the other day, and I'm excited to go surfing this weekend. I also signed up for MMA classes, I'm starting tonight.

Lousy weekend, I didn't go to the usual spot on Friday because I didn't feel like driving so far and then driving back to put out signs. I ended up eating at a local bar, saw a pair of decent girls, but not compelling enough to approach. Bounced to another bar that had seriously only a pair of decent girls, the rest were about 30 guys and about a half dozen fat chicks. Looks like that particular town is sh*t for meeting girls outside of the school year.

Saturday was lame as well, but I did get some exercise in, and ended up buying my surfboard that night at midnight.

Sunday was spent watching the entire first season of the TV show Crusoe while making bandit signs.

So I learned where NOT to go on a weekend, as well as invested in my future with the bandit signs (lead generation for my business), bought a surfboard, and got some sun with my 1 hour run in 102 degree weather.

Still looking for an economical; missed an EXCELLENT deal on one with a rebuilt title. But that's fine. I'll eventually find a good deal. And I won't feel so guilty for spending so much gas money on going out. Again, gay as hell, but it's better than being broke :)
 

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Had a GREAT night last night:

1. I got promoted at work, I wasn't expecting to get promoted until October.

2. Checked out two potential properties for my business.

3. Had a good workout at my new kickboxing class, time flew by and I learned new kicks.

4. Had a lady friend call, one that I've been no contacting for about two weeks now. Called her back and she wanted to drop by because she was in my area, but she went home. I didn't say much on the phone and just let her talk. Told her to have a good night and didn't offer to hang out or call her back.

5. Went out to the bar, approached only two sets of girls. The first set was a practice set on a pair of girls. They were sitting and watching the dance floor, and it was really loud so I got their attention and had them follow me to the smoking area. This was the first time I physically led a pair of females from a loud area to a quiet area. Felt good. I did this after I used the search function on the site for what to do when it's too loud. I blew myself out by talking to much, and by talking about MMA and my business and logical sh*t.

I pulled the next pair of hotties, the ones that I had my eye on the entire night, from the dance floor to the smoking area. They were both smaller girls (I'm very tall) and they were both wearing black tank tops and jeans. Brunettes. VERY intimidating to me. They loved me! Until I again, kind of blew myself out by talking way too much. But I went for the girl that I was the most attracted to, and even though I failed (she "had a boyfriend"), I felt GREAT that I tried.

I learned:

1. Don't talk TOO much, they need to contribute too.
2. Don't invite girls out salsa dancing; I guess that's kind of a "weird" thing to do when you first meet someone, and after thinking about it, it's like asking them out on a "date" or asking them to "dinner". I didn't even know. Now I do.
3. Loud music is no longer a problem; just motion for the girls to follow you, and walk to a quiet area. They'll usually follow you.
4. Girls that are drinking a beer and dressed casually and modestly do that so guys feel comfortable approaching them; they WANT to be approached.
5. Saying "Hi my name is Vice" is a good default opener.

Still learning. In a much better place than I was last week. Can't wait to go out tonight.
 

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ALMOST LAY REPORT
Dammit! So close!

Went out to the gay bar, it was "goth" night. Hey, I like girls in little black dresses and sh*t, and they're EVERYWHERE out there.

On my car ride over there I formulated my game plan: Go up to the girl that I found the MOST attractive, introduce myself, and talk to her. Well, after walking by the girl I wanted to approach about two or three times, I finally did it. She was friendly, but there was a little miscommunication: I asked her if she was getting a drink, and she thought I was asking her if I could buy her one. Lesson learned: if she's at the bar, she's getting a drink. She said she was going to go out and dance and I told her that was cool and I'd see her later. She never came out to the smoking area, and when I would walk by her she'd avoid eye contact. No worries; at least I approached her!

So after talking with this lesbian who was also on the hunt (We were both eyeballing the same girl), I noticed this adorable asian girl staring at me. She said "Hi" and I had her come over to talk to me. We ended up talking about a variety of stuff, she liked anime and was one of those "geek queens" that go to those conventions dressed all hot and ****. Not really my thing, but it was cool that she had other interests. We talked about the only anime I know (Cowboy Bebop), and the next thing I knew I was kissing her. And a few more times later. She was sitting next to me and wasn't shy about my arm touching hers, my leg touching hers, etc.

We bounced to IHOP after the club closed, but we had to get her friend's car who lived nearby. I offered to escort them (It was a nice neighborhood that bordered a bad one) and got plenty of kino in when I had to pick her up and carry her across wet grass.

At IHOP we had a bowl of fruit and we decided to go out "for a smoke". I don't smoke, but smoking is SUCH a convenient reason to pull a girl out of a group! I carry a zippo with me though for things like this. David X says "If she smokes she f*cks".

We ended up going to the bank across the street so I could get some money to pay for the fruit. I ended up pressing her up against the wall and making out with her.

Then we went for a walk, and I took her about two blocks down the road to check out this art gallery. On the way I would randomly push her up against the wall and make out with her. When we got to the art gallery, I showed her through the window the cool artwork (beautiful women by this dude named StuntKid, he's got some of his work on DeviantArt). I then pressed her against the door and started to make out with her, rub her body, nibble on her neck, pull her hair, rub her boobs/butt/vagina. She stopped me though, because she said she hadn't shaved in three days. I didn't really want to keep going if she wasn't feeling totally comfortable.

This girl is like 5'2", double D sized PERKY boobies. NICE. :D

We ended up walking back because her friend was frantically texting her because this guy was being weird (he had a thing for the girl I hooked up with) and wanted to escape. We met her outside and wrapped up the night, with me giving her a big hug (I pick girls up when I hug them) and a kiss on the cheek, right in front of this dude. Turns out he went outside to look for us, checking the girls bathroom, the dumpster (classy), etc. Kind of psycho if you ask me. If there was an altercation it would have resulted in him losing pretty bad, we're talking about a nerd who was just playing Magic vs. me with some martial arts training. I'm no badass, but I can hold my own against someone who isn't trained and is just being wild.

Got her friend's number too. She was fat but she was very entertaining and witty to hang out with.

Was a GREAT night, looking forward to going out again tonight, this time to a more mainstream, beachy bar.

Will be calling asian/french chick to "hang out" probably on Saturday, I'll have her come out to the beach while I attempt to surf and then go to my house and watch a movie (ie. bang her brains out).

Cheers guys :rockon:
 

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Good Report but in my opinion you spent too much time with her. If you spent that much time with her you should have f*cked her. I mean you met her in the club, got a makeout, went to iHop, took her to an art exchibit, and back. This is like 2 dates to me. You should have built rapport at iHop and isolate her completely so you could close the deal.
 

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"And the next thing I knew I has kissing her" haha isn't that the best? Gotta love bar/club/party environments.

Good report, too bad you couldn't pull her home, IMO sounds like you didn't try that hard to though...instead of going for the walk you could have walked on over to your car and pulled her home, but of course it's easy to say so from the sidelines, you're the one in the moment dealing with the distractions (her fattie friend, the dude, etc). Just be aware of your opportunities.

I guess the beach date sounds like a decent idea, but perhaps for some variation, tell her to meet up at your place and then you can go to the beach together...bring her in, give her the tour, and you might get some nookie before ever even leaving the house ;)

Keep us posted.
 

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We had sex earlier today. I met her at the club at about 11pm, and we hung out for a bit before we bounced to my place to "go watch Outlaw Star", this anime that I happened to have DVD rips of. Very, VERY tempting to talk to other girls at the club, it's a gay club, but it was a Lady Gaga party and there were goregous girls everywhere. Restrained myself and ended up chatting with her new gay friend about clothes and sh*t, pretty good conversation. She went to go dance with her other gay friend and left me with the guy with her purse and stuff, I had her sit it down next to me and I ended up talking to this dude for like 15 minutes. I'm pretty comfortable with my sexuality so it was not problem.

Got back to my house at 12pm. Fired up Outlaw Star, started making out, next thing I knew, I was inside of her! Fun sex, she was a pretty light girl, her boobies were PERFECT (DD, perky, nice little nipples). Went at it for about three hours. Gave her oral, she had to cover her mouth to keep from screaming, biting my pillow and sh*t. Plus she had a smaller vagina and I'm wide, so it hurt for her to walk back to my car when we finally decided to have her go home.

Fun times. Unfortunately I'm running on only five hours of sleep.

Totally worth it. :D

On a side note ARrocket, I didn't pull her that night because I was pretty sure her interest level was high, and that she didn't feel comfortable f*cking because she wasn't shaved. It was an in-field decision, as much as I would have liked to have sneaky public sex.
 

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Props! Just be sure not to let your game with this one slip too much now that you've been inside her. Sounds like you'll have some fun with her.
 

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Field Report

Went out last night, wearing my pink dress shirt from Express. I ended up running into a BUNCH of people from work, and I was hoping that wouldn't happen because I would never hear the end of it for wearing a pink shirt. But I was talking to WAY more girls than they were, so it's cool.

Approached three groups:

1. First set was a warmup set, approached a group of three girls. They thought I was approaching them for someone else, but I told them it was just me. The seemed to think that was kind of cool. Talked for a little, they ended up getting up and leaving me.

2. Second set was my favorite, I saw these two goregous girls at the bar, about five feet away from the speakers. I tapped them on the shoulder, and had them follow me somewhere quieter. That technique has to be one of the BEST things I've learned from SoSuave, I no longer have to compete with the music to get a girls attention, plus I establish the frame by physically leading them immediately. I talked with them for a while, had good conversation. A guy from my work came in and I introduced him, and then later on the girls left.

3. I approached a semi-cute girl that I liked simply because she was wearing neon green, tapped her shoulder and pulled her away from the loud music. She said that she knew one of the guys from work and lived in the same dorms, so I ejected out of that situation. She had total princess syndrome as well (she seemed annoyed that I approached her) and I didn't want to deal with a girl with that kind of attitude and inferior looks when there were plenty of more attractive girls that were happy to talk to me.

I ended up getting the number from the girl that I was the most attracted to in the second set, I found her and the other girl she was with (her sister) and asked her sister if I could "borrow her". I ended up talking with the girl for a bit and got her number, and left. I was getting bored and I told her I was leaving, and she gave me the lamest sh*t test ever: "Oh do you think I'm boring?" I said "If I thought you were boring I would have just left and not talked to you". I didn't kiss her, but I think I could have, because I touched her hair (I admired her "poof") and she didn't back away. Oh well. I sent her a text saying "High. Get home safe tonight", she didn't reply. No big deal. I'll call her on Monday to hang out with me while I get groceries.

Great times, going out is pretty fun once you get the momentum rolling.
 

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Called cute girl I met on Thursday yesterday, she didn't pick up. She called me back but I didn't get to the phone. Called her back, she missed my call. She texted me asking who I was, I told her, no reply. Called again, nothing. Oh well. I'll try once more later.

Hung out with the cute chick last night, she spent the night. Woke up at about 4am and had pre-morning sex.

Before cute chick came over, I went to Outback Steakhouse to eat. Met a cute brunette there. I didn't see her when I walked in because I was distracted by the goregous video of a seaplane flying around tropical islands. Flirted with her a little, then sat down and ate. Finished eating, flirted with her a little (I was mesmerized by the video, it was beautiful) and she said it was okay for me to stand there and watch it, and I said she just wanted me to stand there so she could stare at me. She was playing with her hair. I left without getting her number, but I ended up going back inside to get it. It was really awkward, but I got it. Called her later that night, it went good.

Tired at hell right now. Going out to the goth club with her and a wing girl tonight, I'll pounce on a cute girl if the opportinty arises.

Cheers guys
 

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Fall and winter are coming, that means that I won't be able to go out and surf and enjoy being outside as much. I'm thinking about buying another Xbox 360 because that new Goldeneye port is coming out, as well as Halo 10th anniversary edition.

Actually, my suitemate has an Xbox 360, and I let him use my internet. I'll just buy a 3 month xbox live subscription and play for three months or less. I think I'll be able to limit how frequently I play now.
 

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Damn it! Regression again. Eating like crap; had a whole large pizza last night while watching anime (Outlaw Star). I never watch anime because it's too cheesy/dorky. The asian girl I've been dating reccommended it to me and I got absorbed into it.

It seems that when I get laid on a consistent basis, I lose focus and momentum. I need to regain control.

And maybe hang out with her a little less. She's only here for a month though, so I think hanging out and having frequent sex is alright in this case. I'm her "summer secret". Fun stuff.
 

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Realized why alot of guys kick women out of their houses the morning after: women are messy and disruptive to your morning routine. This chick is spending ONE more night with me, and then she's out of here.
 
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