It's just not happening for me. I admit defeat.

[Mantis Toboggan]

Stop trying to predict the future. I made whining threads in the past but that doesn't mean I'll keep making them. I hate when people online try to be a therapist based on words written on a screen.

Sorry, but you are BY FAR the most attention-seeking poster in this forum. It's getting to the point where you either drop this "Woe is me" game, or people start treating you like a troll.

 

[AlmostThere!]

Sorry, but you are BY FAR the most attention-seeking poster in this forum. It's getting to the point where you either drop this "Woe is me" game, or people start treating you like a troll.

I'm like a car wreck. People gotta look.

Alright...if y'all are sick of my threads, I'll stop making them.

But when I have a legitimate concern or question, I'd like some replies.


AND SERIOUSLY... WHY THE **** WOULD YOU FEAR FOR THE GIRL WHO DATES ME? WHY DO I NEED CERTIFIED HELP?

It's one thing to be depressed about one's love life, but you all are saying I need to be in the nuthouse. What the **** is up with that?

 

[Kailex]

I'm like a car wreck. People gotta look.

Alright...if y'all are sick of my threads, I'll stop making them.

But when I have a legitimate concern or question, I'd like some replies.


AND SERIOUSLY... WHY THE **** WOULD YOU FEAR FOR THE GIRL WHO DATES ME? WHY DO I NEED CERTIFIED HELP?

It's one thing to be depressed about one's love life, but you all are saying I need to be in the nuthouse. What the **** is up with that?

I wish you had a female friend, because if you did... print out your threads and highlight the parts YOU typed. Have her read it, and then react.

Hell, show it to a female relative and ask her what she thinks and then whether she would date you or not.

Do it.

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

I wish you had a female friend, because if you did... print out your threads and highlight the parts YOU typed. Have her read it, and then react.

Hell, show it to a female relative and ask her what she thinks and then whether she would date you or not.

Do it.

Better yet. Have AlmostThere! print out his threads and ask if he'd date himself.

Whiny. Unsure. Unconfident. Seeks advice and then chooses not to follow it.

Repeats questions, asks for the same advice, then chooses not to follow it.

What a catch! Where can I find a girl with such awesome qualities?

He takes all the work that guys like us put into making ourselves into better people, and then pisses all over it because things didn't turn around for him in 1 week. This guy is either a troll, or severely depressed (and quite possibly not too bright).

Of course, I want to see him do well, if he truly is who he's claiming to be. But it's getting to the point where you see that this guy doesn't want to listen to advice so much as he wants to spew complaints on the internet. And that's the very definition of a troll. Someone who comes on internet message boards, spouts opinions, refuses to listen to others or change his own opinions, and then continues the same path until ignored or banned.

 

[mix_master]

Man, this board really is composed of bottom feeders. Actually, that's too generous. The guys here aren't even being fed at all. So everyone here is starving, and sniping at each other. That is truly pathetic. Good luck y'all with that.

 

[Alle_Gory]

If you're not going to try then just give up.

Either way STOP WHINING.

Would you want to hang around with such a whiny sissy? Then why would anyone else want to?

 

[vachir]

you can do it i believe in you.
bye bye now

 

[AlmostThere!]

You guys totally ignored my last few posts. I'm done here. All I'm gonna get is the troll label.

 

[Kailex]

I gave you legit advice. You just don't want to listen to it.
Why should I reply to anything else when you've been doing NOTHING different in the last month?

I already told you what to do. Print out these threads by YOU and show it to someone FEMALE and then say: Yeah, look at this guy, I saw this on a forum, what do you think about him?

Just show him everything and deny that you are AlmostThere! and then you'll get a genuine capture of what a female would think of you.

But you just sit here thinking there's some magic potion that'll automatically make women like you. And yes, you are being labeled a troll. Because it's been a whole month of NONSENSE from you. At least some guys here TRY to switch it around even though they'll probably be AFC's for life. You just say you are going to join a club, do stuff, but your path to self-improvement lasts DAYS. Hell, it took God 7 days to create the Earth, what makes you think you can become a woman-deserving-man in less than that? It takes TIME, it takes PATIENCE, and you say you have NO time and NO patience, so... what else is there to tell you that hasn't been said AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN?

You say we ignored your last few posts, you've ignored us for the last few WEEKS. You tell me which is worse.

 

[AlmostThere!]

Do you REALLY think I go around whining to females like I do on SoSuave?

Do you REALLY think I whine to my co-workers?

Do you REALLY think I whine in real life?


The beauty of the internet is that I can voice deep, dark feelings and get feedback without anyone seeing me.

You're all acting like I go to parties and complain, whine, and mope.

Emotions have to go somewhere... I'm not going to whine in real life but I still have lots of issues I want to deal with.

If you felt as though you offered the best advice you can give me, then let it be. Maybe your words of wisdom will help me through when I face my next crisis.

 

[flint]

Dude I hate to be brutally honest but I'm going to say what I say to everyone that makes posts like these. The truth of the matter is you KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE UP, you know it because it's in your nature to need to be sexual. Sure, maybe for a month you might be down and stop going out, but in that situation what you're doing is looking for help/a pick me up like you're doing on this forum.

If you want to "give up" go for it, see how long that lasts. The fact of the matter is I've never seen you in the field or anything so I don't know whether your weakness is approach anxiety or whatever, but it's like Brad Pitt said in "Fight Club", you're only free to do anything once you've lost everything. Once you get to the point where you're SO FED UP of living life the way it is, you'll approach girls with the craziest openers and just not care whether you're rejected or not because eventually someone will bite regardless.

Either that will happen or you'll be like 90% of the men out there and just complain and hope that you'll get lucky. The choice is yours.

 

[I'm in the Mood]

I've been trying to improve my social life by joining clubs and stuff but girls don't like me. I don't understand how guys hook up wuth girls.

How do you know that girls don't like you?
Do you ask each one individually, "Do you like me?"

No! Of course not! It sounds to me like you're being too judgmental.

If you're somebody who isn't incredibly socially experienced and can't relate to many people, you're going to have to either try harder to find commonalities, or just talk to more girls, even ones that you aren't very physically attracted to.
In order to succeed, you must FAIL and LEARN from your failures. There is no "good luck" or anything like that; there is just you, a path, and success. You either follow the path or you don't, it's your decision.

After all these years of reading material, I'm still at square one.

It would help us greatly if you've told us exactly what you've read.

Yes, reading can help; there is lots of good material out there, but you must not only use your eyes and gather information, you have to change your behavior and maintain that change before you'll see any results.

I'm not ugly and I have a fit body. I'm trying to gain 15 pounds but I'm not disgustingly skinny. I make 60/k a year, I'm 25 and I'm indepedent. I'm ahead than most guys.

You have some HUGE advantages here.
The only problem is that you need to learn how to USE them to your advantage.

I should just admit defeat and stop trying. I'm one of those guys that will never have a girlfriend.

I highlighted the word defeat here for a reason. This is very important.

If you EVER stick to these words, I wonder, who have you been defeated by?
YOURSELF, that's who. After all, YOU'RE the one who said it.

You have to change the way you think to more positive and successful thought patterns.

Before you continue complaining and being bytched at in this thread of yours, you need to COMMIT TO CHANGE.

It's a waste of time to help someone change who isn't willing to change.

 

[Exhumed]

Clearly women can see through your act and see that you're unhappy and insecure. You have to be relatively satisfied with life as a whole and realize that girls aren't that important.

Aside from the deep-rooted emotional issues, you need to forget about that "Only approach women who give you IOIs" garbage...not every girl goes through her daily life giving a flirty smile to every guy she'd consider banging.

 

[nismo-4]

Clearly women can see through your act and see that you're unhappy and insecure. You have to be relatively satisfied with life as a whole and realize that girls aren't that important.

Aside from the deep-rooted emotional issues, you need to forget about that "Only approach women who give you IOIs" garbage...not every girl goes through her daily life giving a flirty smile to every guy she'd consider banging.

@ Exhumed, I can't believe how your team of Penn State beat my LSU Tigers in the Capital One Bowl! I thought LSU knew how to truly deal with Big Ten teams! But the game was great to watch, so I'm not mad at all.

But to you OP, Papa Nismo told you what you needed to do. You better read this above quote as well. Your dream girl ain't gonna fall from the sky and smack-dab into your goddamn lap!

Get the fuck out there and approach! Hold a conversation! Ask a girl out! The worst that can happen is she says no! If you make a move, you'll have some chance! A slim to none ratio beats a none to zero ratio any day of the damn week!

 

[Warrior74]

Be patient. Keep trying. That's the only real advice here.

 

[middleofnowhere]

I didn't bother reading all 4 pages, but hopefully I offer something that the other guys haven't.

I believe you that women aren't showing interest in you. I'm the same way. But you have to get to a point where you don't give a sh*t, I mean really don't give a sh*t what women think about you. Then you draw them into your world.

Women never check me out, and I'm at least a 6 on the 10scale (tall and in shape and not an ugly face), I dress like a model...shirts and ties and expensive pants, but I draw them into my world by ignoring the ones that laugh at me or ignore me and talk to the ones that don't.

What might also help boost your confidence is going on a dating site, with no intention of finding a girlfriend or getting laid, but finding a coffee date. If you can keep a woman interested in you and engaged in a conversation for 2 hours, clearly she was at least attracted or interested to spend the night with you and not walk out on the date.

I look at myself as the guy that might be outright ignored, but when you see him up close you realize "He's not a jock or pretty boy but he's not ugly and has really nice style and is outgoing."

The problem is, this is what other people on here were probably trying to say to you, without explaining it.

Women will sense that you could clearly give two sh*ts about what they think of you, and that will get them to open up.

 

[AlmostThere!]

Thank you guys for your help. Once I grasp a concept, I run away with it like there's no tomorrow. I don't have a college degree...everything I learned was on the job. No formal training. I'm working on expensive security camera systems and computer networks without a college degree. Do you know how I got this job? I went into the interview believing that they should pick me and only me.

I don't know why the concept of girls is so hard for me to grasp. But I know once I have that "aha" moment...there will be no stopping me. I've had girls interested in me before. I've had girls invite me over to their house (and I went over their houses but most of the time too chicken **** to make any moves). But my insecurities and lack of confidence made me doubt her intentions. I often asked myself "is she just being nice?" or "she doesn't really like me". Stupid sh*t like that...! I'm pretty sure I would've had a girlfriend all the way back in high school.

But I have read all of your comments, I have taken to heart what you all said. It's time for me to marinate, digest, and sh*t this information back out into a concept I can understand.

I'm going to keep attending social events. I'm gonna stick with my hobbies. And I will forget all of the bullsh*t that has been holding me back. If I see a girl I want to chat to...I'm not going to care if she looked at me or not. I'm gonna walk over there, look her in the eyes, and start a conversation. If she responds negatively, then I don't ****ing care. At least I won't come home crying (not literally) because I regret not approaching her. I have to start believing in myself that I'm good enough for a woman. There's nothing wrong with me that would cause every female to reject me. Of course, I may not be the right skin color, or height, or body build, or I may look too young...but there's millions of girls who don't have high standards and I'm gonna go after them.

Sometimes I have vivid dreams of myself macking to girls. I'm confident, I'm speaking slowly and clearly, girls are receptive. In my dreams, I'm witty and smooth. I don't know if dreams mean anything, but I always believe dreams come from within. You can't dream something that's not already inside you. So I do have the ability to attract women, but all these years of nonsense and self-doubt repressed that man.

 

[stuntrider]

i just registered to this site after my friend "school boy" told me to visit the site. i wasnt a member until now that is because after reading your quote i wanted to register and have this posted on for you!! if you live in vancouver canada give me a shout out and we will go out, i wanna see how u react, what you wear, what you say and how your body language is!! alil about myself.. im a decent looking guy was having trouble with women of my choice!!! after reading some goods that is written by best pick up artists it changed my attitude, body language and my approaches. i love giving tips for guys like yourself whos going throught toubles like this.. i have my email address on my page give me a mail and tell me exacctly where u go to pick up numbers/girls and how u do it?

 

[Alle_Gory]

Sometimes I have vivid dreams of myself macking to girls. I'm confident, I'm speaking slowly and clearly, girls are receptive. In my dreams, I'm witty and smooth. I don't know if dreams mean anything, but I always believe dreams come from within. You can't dream something that's not already inside you. So I do have the ability to attract women, but all these years of nonsense and self-doubt repressed that man.

WOW! This guy FINALLY gets it! :cheer:

It's about fvcking time.

 

[zekko]

You definitely didn't give yourself enough time to build up your own social life.

This is true. You need to build up your social life, but it's not going to be done overnight. It's going to take a little time, so you have to be patient, know you're in there for the long haul, keep at it, and don't give up.

You know why women won't go out with you or ignore you, because they can sense how sad, desperate, and hopeless you are.

That simple. And until you DEAL with that fact and turn it around, you won't get anywhere.

Yes, you need to fix your attitude or you are guaranteed to never get anywhere. You say you don't go around telling people your deepest, innermost thoughts. The problem is you shouldn't be indulging yourself with these thoughts to begin with. They are your enemy, your thoughts are poison, they are working against you. You have to retrain yourself to think positively or you are sunk. So discipline yourself, man, and good luck.