It's just not happening for me. I admit defeat.

[1337]

your too self conscience about what other people think and not every girls gonna like you. looks pathetic quitting just cuz they gave you a couple of bad glances. I bet you weren't even being yourself cuz you were so caught up in what they think of you, you lost your frame and confidence. Don't assume they wont like you just cuz they gave you bad looks, Im sure if they got to know you they would like you and also that 60k,fit blah blah does not define who you are their material things meaning if its near the end of your life you won't take them with you, you only have you.

 

[Diaforetikos]

Stop expecting over the top results when you have very little experience. Your not gonna make a hole in one when you've only been golfing for 2 weeks. It's gonna take months, but you gotta practice to see some results within those months.

Start practicing small. Focus on one thing at a time until you get that one thing down. So for the first week, dedicate yourself to making eye contact. If your not better within that week, keep going until you are. Then move onto saying hi. Keep practicing that for a weeks time until you can say hi to everyone without thinking about it. Then move to conversations.

My point is to set small goals that are obtainable. If you try for something big but have no experience, your gonna fail without the slightest chance of success. Be realistic.

Realize that when you start practicing, your gonna fail hard. So instead of trying to get results, try to fail. Set up a goal for your failures. If you fail more than you expected, GREAT!! Just have fun and stop effin' caring. Your turning it into work. It's supposed to be fun.

Stop trying to date the first attractive girl you see. Your chances of success will be extremely slim. Just try to say hi. If that works, try to have a full blown conversation. If you feel that's working, then try to flirt and attract and so on an so forth.

YOU ARE NEGATIVE! Nobody wants to be around a negative person. Smile and just have fun. Anyone can say be positive. But I think you need to learn how to be positive first. I'll start off with giving. It takes the focus off of yourself and puts it on others. Give your time, money and attention to others, meaning ask someone how their day is going. Ask them if they have any plans for the day. Ask them if they need help with something. You'll be happier. They'll be happy that someone cares. Real men give value.

Start off with this basic stuff and go from there. You can do this bro. Beating yourself up generates negativity which generates failure. Your life is success. Your dedicated and passionate. Bring that passion over to your growth with women. Dedicate time and energy into getting better. You will fail, but that's ok because your gaining experience. Failure helps in the long term goals. YOU GOT THIS MAN! YOU CAN DO IT!!

 

[PappyS]

Sounds like you're following a program someone else told you to follow. I could tell you how to get pvssy but you wouldn't like it since it wouldn't follow the standard program.

 

[Poonani Maker]

There is no question in here so I will assume the post is similar to your personality, that girls should pay attention to you because you are you.

It's been said countless times before, you are so narcissistic and focused on yourself its fairly obvious why you don't have a girlfriend. Instead of focusing on why girls don't like you, how about you focus on what you can OFFER them? Why should a girl be with you? Because you make 60K and are fit? It's a good start, but if you have no friends, are not involved in social activities and stay home playing video games friday night, you will crash and burn. Girls don't care much about MATERIAL things, girls care how you make them FEEL, how you tap into THEIR EMOTIONS.

You could be making $100,000, be ripped, and drive a Porsche, but if stay inside all weekend because you have no friends,you will be alone watching Basic Instinct to get excited. You have to get to her EMOTIONS AND FEELINGS. That's why some guys make $10,000, are not ripped and have no car, but they bang the hottest chicks because they know how the system works with girls and you don't.

Please READ the advice given. 75% people on here don't read, they want instant instant results, part of the "I WANT IT NOW" Generation we currently live in.

great Advice...Dude, tonight I had 2 dames sit down on a loveseat to the right of me. What did I like about them? They didn't ask me, "What do you do?" blah blah. They talked with me about dancing. I told them that I didn't want to. There was a TV show on with subtitles, I'd watch they'd talk to each other, then I'd chime in, then they talk to each other, then I'd chime in, then I asked for the woman 3 years older than me's # (she was my type in the face), joked that we should get a room. Later tonight I was on the dance floor, but not dancing and she comes up behind me and lays her t!tties into my back. I may call her this week, I may not. I'm not as horny as I used to me, so these days women have to go out of their way if they want me to fvck them.

Now, I make a cool six figures (benefits included), still have a sh!tty truck, and now, decent house. I want women to want me for my potential, not what I already have; therefore, I don't buy fancy sh!t. I don't want a woman to want me for my money. I want them to want me for my body, and because they pick up or See something about me that other guys don't have. I know I'm one of a kind. I only want women who can see that I'm the sleeper great guy, not the showboat, not the facade, bullsh!tter, or lier, that many hoedog guys are.

 

[CaptainJ]

I'm not surprised the OP does not get any attention, with such a wimpy attitude reeking of defeat and failure.

 

[Relations]

HEY!​

What the hell, AlmostThere? Do you HONESTLY expect all the sh1t that you're whining about are stuff that you actually deserve, that should just fall into your fvcking lap?

No matter how hard you are working, just know it is not enough. Maybe you don't have a social circle. Girls like social guys. Maybe you don't act confident. Girls like confident guys. Maybe you're personality is a turn-off. Maybe the way you dress is a turn off, etc etc etc. The point is that people who are working hard enough reap the benefits. You've messed up somewhere along the lines.

We don't know you personally Almost. We can't tell you what to do and what to say and typical canned BS. it's up to you to establish who you are. You fall back on extrinsic properties like your salary and your looks and your hangouts, but if that automatically attracted the women you want, then EVERONE would be doing it. Yet you see unattractive, unemployed, guys consistently hooking up with girls at these parties. Instead of seeing it like a challenge (i.e. "If he, of all people, can do it, I sure as hell can."), you see it as another excuse to back off and be a melancholy pvssy.

I'm not trying to be harsh or cynical here Almost, but you just came here for a pity party. Your insecurities are showing. Everyone who posted above me is right, and that it's YOU, not these girls.

 

[AlmostThere!]

I have come to the conclusion that girls are ****ing psychics. I try hard to put on a smiling face, but if they can still read my deep, innermost thoughts, then **** me, I'm screwed.

 

[AlmostThere!]

Are you having FUN going out or is it like a school project? If you look mad,tired,bored etc. We can all read it in your eyes. Women are better at it than we are. IF they are looking for fun-and you aren't it,they won't see you.

That's the thing...is it bad to have a chill expression on my face? Do I have to look like the joker all night?

What exactly are they reading?

How can I *fake* that I'm happy and relaxed in the love department?

EDIT: And it's not always me. I want to make friends with new people, but they already know each other and they're talking about things they only know about. I hate that. That's probably the reason why I got depressed and left early. I hate going to social events and everybody just gather in groups and start talking about insider sh*t. In my opinion, the whole point is getting to know new people.

 

[HeyPachuco!]

This really really really REMINDS me of Special T

 

[Alle_Gory]

Go to a party and every chick there ignores the sh*t out of you, then tell me how you feel.

Uhhh. That's how it works unless you look like Brad Pitt. Why should they talk to you? Make yourself interesting. You need to be like a salesman. The product is YOU.

Best thing for you now is to socialize more. Forget about women. They will come in time.

Or you can be a crybaby because you didn't get what you want right this instant and just give up.

 

[AlmostThere!]

Uhhh. That's how it works unless you look like Brad Pitt. Why should they talk to you? Make yourself interesting. You need to be like a salesman. The product is YOU.

Best thing for you now is to socialize more. Forget about women. They will come in time.

Or you can be a crybaby because you didn't get what you want right this instant and just give up.

Just keep socializing and all my problems will eventually go away?

 

[Nino-Tk]

i wish you would just have FUN...

 

[bish0p]

Just keep socializing and all my problems will eventually go away?

I will tell you a short story. I remember last year when I was with a client of mine and we were at the Social Services building. Everything was normal and we had been sitting, waiting for our number to be called.

This one lady, who had went in to the back to speak with one of the workers, comes out after finishing her business and says to me: "You know, all the women in the back are going crazy over you and talking about how hot you are" and she leaves. I had never met this lady before in my life, but for whatever the reason, she felt the need to tell me this.

So, I'm feeling all good and stuff and when our number gets called, we go back there to take care of our business. When we get in the back, every one is going about their work like usual and no one even looks at me. We finish our business and leave the building.

So yeah, don't worry about getting attention from women.

 

[AlmostThere!]

If I can fix the problems in my love life, I can accomplish anything.

This is the HARDEST sh*t for anyone to master. Does anyone ever truly master romance?

I have YEARS and YEARS of DISAPPOINTMENT that I'm fighting against. YEARS and YEARS of seeing other guys in relationships. I understand why I never had girls in my life when I was younger because I was very shy and self-conscious.

I'm not shy anymore, but I'm still self-conscious. They are two different things.

I'm so SMART yet so STUPID. I have no idea how relationships develop. Do I have to know a girl for months before I start dating her?

On one hand, it seems like girls get into relationships with guys they've known a long time.

On the other hand, I hear girls call guys they've been seeing for 1 month their "boyfriend" and "love of their life".

Should I even flirt with a girl and attempt to get a date if I just met her at a party or social event? How about a female in a class I'm taking? Should I let my interest be known early on? There have been too many times to count in my life that I waited to chat with a girl, and she dropped out of class, quit work, moved, or met someone. But it feels extremely weird to ask a girl to hang out with me on the first day of class or whatever... But there's a good chance that I may never see her again.

I REALLY REALLY try to relax but all this sh*t is going through my mind.

All I want is to put myself in situations where I can meet people (and girls) and hopefully someone would be attracted to me.

 

[Iceberg]

I've been trying to improve my social life by joining clubs and stuff but girls don't like me. I don't understand how guys hook up wuth girls. After all these years of reading material, I'm still at square one.

I'm not ugly and I have a fit body. I'm trying to gain 15 pounds but I'm not disgustingly skinny. I make 60/k a year, I'm 25 and I'm indepedent. I'm ahead than most guys.

But I go to these social events and I don't get any type of interest.

I should just admit defeat and stop trying. I'm one of those guys that will never have a girlfriend. My life will be made up of one time lays every 6 months.

Dude. You're like a 50 year old woman, fishing for compliments. You wanna quit? Then go ahead and quit. I don't see a need to write some "pay attention to me" thread about it.

You were whining on here a week ago about going to social events, and joining clubs, and how you were going to try it and get better at it.....and apparently, you've tried it for all of 10 days, and have given up.

Funny thing is, you live in Philly, right? Well I do too. And I'd have been perfectly cool with hanging out with you and showing you around town if you weren't acting like such a whiney freak. There's no way I'm meeting some random dude off the internet when he seems this emotionally unstable. You frighten me. I'd probably end up on the front page of the news with my face eaten off.

It just seems like you're afraid of your own shadow...so go ahead and quit. All of us on this message board who are successful with women got there because we TRIED. We WORKED at it. We suffered, we got rejected, and failed numerous times...and after that, we learned how to succeed. You don't want to work at it....you want to whine on an internet message board to get attention from men. Maybe you're gay? Have you considered that?

I'm sorry...but this pisses me off. Other guys on here try. They ask questions, they learn how to better themselves. A solid 80% of the posts I've seen from you are about how you "CAN'T do blah blah blah." After a while, people stop wanting to give you pep talks and start wanting to put you on ignore. If you're gonna quit then go quit. What logical purpose is there behind starting a thread to tell us that you're quitting?

 

[Poonani Maker]

I'm not shy anymore, but I'm still self-conscious. They are two different things.

Never be self-conscious. It's like, "I don't have TIME to be self-conscious. I'm on a mission. Whether that be the mental satisfaction of having ladies around me wooing me, or the actual fvcking them, I'm on a mission regardless.

I'm so SMART yet so STUPID. I have no idea how relationships develop. Do I have to know a girl for months before I start dating her?

On one hand, it seems like girls get into relationships with guys they've known a long time.

On the other hand, I hear girls call guys they've been seeing for 1 month their "boyfriend" and "love of their life".

In my experience, Use both, but the "hooking up" usually happens lightening fast. They just KNOW that, "Hey, that's the guy I want (to fvck me)."


Should I even flirt with a girl and attempt to get a date if I just met her at a party or social event? How about a female in a class I'm taking? Should I let my interest be known early on? There have been too many times to count in my life that I waited to chat with a girl, and she dropped out of class, quit work, moved, or met someone. But it feels extremely weird to ask a girl to hang out with me on the first day of class or whatever... But there's a good chance that I may never see her again.

No. No. Who cares if you never see her again. There are MANY others (fish). These pvssies are lying everywhere in your wake (legs up). There is no need to pine for a girl. You can hope though. She'll never know you're hoping, but pinning is very obvious. Be the prize. She can either take it (your **** to svck) or leave it. Older women (or young women with "old" mindset) are usually easier, because they're (think they're) running out of time. Most young ones don't/won't hardly ever frame you as the prize, because there are too many other swinging d!cks prizing HER. You CAN switch a young one's mind off herself and on to you. But you Must act fast, i.e. banging her, because another dude will come along in the next hour using every tool or Key to HIS disposal leaving you long forgotten in HER mind, unless she's fat or below 6.


I REALLY REALLY try to relax but all this sh*t is going through my mind.

You're right. You're 25. Take some risks outside of the realm of women. You have to prove to yourself that you're a man, before you can prove to a woman that you're a man by just simply standing in her presence.

All I want is to put myself in situations where I can meet people (and girls) and hopefully someone would be attracted to me.

Quite frankly, I only put myself in situations where I can meet GIRLS, people are secondary. I enjoys girls' affections, chasing, trying to get close to me, trying to touch me, flirting, asking me for my number, asking me all these Personal questions (that I would never answer, how rude!). I turn the tables on them. It's devilish. I, in a sense, become the equivalent to the "b!tch," which is, the "as5hole," but she can't come right out and call me that. She's just met me! and I am very subtle about setting the frame. They barely know they're losing, until they've lost. And I'm in her cvnt and mind. She's drawn to me. Very powerful. Deadly.

These are just my opinions. I don't necessarily have to fvck a woman to be satisfied. Just knowing she wanted me IN her at some point and time is enough, and this happens on a daily basis, because It's just who I am now. I used to not BE this way, like you are now. I Became the body that 50% of women want to USE (put on like a fur coat to keep her warm at night). I can't claim the affections of ALL women. I can usually tell by just looking at woman (even from afar) that she would most likely never want me (ESPECIALLY if I tried "flirting" with her, as you say; you FLIRT with those, you know, are highly interested in you - that's when you've got em on the hook - a fish off the hook is free to swim about ignoring you're bait which is not attractive to that particular fish). I can only make snap judgments like these about the probability of a woman who just met me, based upon experience encountering that type of woman (her demeanor, if she appears to have gone down on other women, I know that she will not like me, lesbians/bi/whatever/stinky hippy flower chicks have Never liked me because I'm so masculine it offends them - I know I HAVE to be with a very feminine woman the exact antithesis of what I am. The more mixed sexually (lower testosterone count) you are, the more you'll get along with mixed sexual girls. I'm not mixed, and they can See that from the start. No sense bothering with a failed premise. Waste of time.

 

[zekko]

This is the HARDEST sh*t for anyone to master. Does anyone ever truly master romance?

For some people it's very easy, but yeah for other people it's very hard.

I have YEARS and YEARS of DISAPPOINTMENT that I'm fighting against. YEARS and YEARS of seeing other guys in relationships.

This is what Tyler Durden calls the Newbie Paradox. You have to believe in order to be successful, but in order to to believe you have to have some successes. This isn't exactly how he puts it, but basically he says to break out of it you have to keep trying until you go numb to the pain, you stop caring. And that's when the girls start to respond.

I'm not shy anymore, but I'm still self-conscious.

That's why they tell you to keep your mind blank I guess, and only focus on what is going on in the moment.

I think what you need to do is start slow and slowly work your way up. You need to learn how to talk to a girl without freaking out. It sounds like you have girls in your class and you're too scared to talk to them. I think you need to lower your expectations. Don't think about going out with them, don't make that your goal. Set a smaller goal that you can achieve more easily. Just try to start a small conversation with them, or just say SOMETHING to them, anything. A question about an assignment, anything.

Same with guys. It really sounds like you need to improve your social skills. Start small, and keep practicing. If you find people with something in common with you it helps. Forget about dating right now and just try to learn to talk to people, be smooth, relaxed, funny, and fun. Don't be so serious.

It could take awhile. I know it can be frustrating but your bad attitude is not going to help you at all, it's only going to hinder you. No matter how bad things are, you're going to get farther with a positive attitude than a bad one. With the attitude you have, you won't get anywhere. So you HAVE to get rid of the bad attitude, retrain your thoughts to be positive. If you catch yourself thinking something negative, stop and reframe it. You will fall and fail, but keep practicing and it will slowly get easier and more natural for you.

 

[Mavrick]

Nothing you've said would gain a woman's interest. Figure out what they like in a man, and go try again.

 

[DonJuan11]

If I can fix the problems in my love life, I can accomplish anything.

Misguided thinking. Having sex or a love life does not solve the other problems. Your bank will still want its money, you still have to obey laws of society, you will still have work for a living. Are you sure you have a job that pays you $60,000 per year? Your thinking is so illogical its scary.

This is the HARDEST sh*t for anyone to master. Does anyone ever truly master romance?

Just like you mastered finding a job, there are people who know how to get women and master romance.

I have YEARS and YEARS of DISAPPOINTMENT that I'm fighting against. YEARS and YEARS of seeing other guys in relationships. I understand why I never had girls in my life when I was younger because I was very shy and self-conscious.

You are not giving us specific examples of your "years and years" of disappointment. You are complaining and ignoring all the smart advice given to you, which is an obvious showing right there why you can't get a women.

I'm not shy anymore, but I'm still self-conscious. They are two different things.

I'm so SMART yet so STUPID. I have no idea how relationships develop. Do I have to know a girl for months before I start dating her?

By repeating the same questions and ignoring the advice given, you are not smart and are ignorant.

Should I even flirt with a girl and attempt to get a date if I just met her at a party or social event? How about a female in a class I'm taking? Should I let my interest be known early on? There have been too many times to count in my life that I waited to chat with a girl, and she dropped out of class, quit work, moved, or met someone. But it feels extremely weird to ask a girl to hang out with me on the first day of class or whatever

What does "hang out" mean? Why do you want to hang out with her or any girl - to just give you sex? If that's all you want, go to a prostitute. You are so focused on getting sex and a girlfriend that you are forgetting it's a process until you master it.

All I want is to put myself in situations where I can meet people (and girls) and hopefully someone would be attracted to me.

We need specific examples of your interactions and less complaining of how great, smart, and sophisticated you are not to have a girlfriend.

 

[Isko]

On one hand, it seems like girls get into relationships with guys they've known a long time.

On the other hand, I hear girls call guys they've been seeing for 1 month their "boyfriend" and "love of their life".

Should I even flirt with a girl and attempt to get a date if I just met her at a party or social event? How about a female in a class I'm taking? Should I let my interest be known early on? There have been too many times to count in my life that I waited to chat with a girl, and she dropped out of class, quit work, moved, or met someone. But it feels extremely weird to ask a girl to hang out with me on the first day of class or whatever... But there's a good chance that I may never see her again.

I REALLY REALLY try to relax but all this sh*t is going through my mind.

All I want is to put myself in situations where I can meet people (and girls) and hopefully someone would be attracted to me.

It's good that you're asking these questions; you're getting closer to your goals. FYI, the boundaries of "normal" versus "weird" don't really exist. If it's possible in reality, someone will do it. And it's definitely normal to pursue girls and fun times at any opportunity: especially at a party or social event, and even the first day of class. You can start up a conversation with someone anywhere, especially before or after class. Just be chill, friendly, and confident. (Confident in this case means give yourself a chance, and accept that she might like you. Be nice to yourself, view yourself in a positive light.)

Good job on socializing more; you're learning, and asking questions that weren't even on your mind a week ago. Keep it up!