If a girl banged another dude after you but came back

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Would you still take her seriously?

Not a personal experience, but occurring around me and not always sure what to think. Dude and chick hook up. Dude very into chick, perhaps AFC pushes her away, she bangs other guys, then brings back on high IOI's to original dude.

If original dude, is she tainted now?

What are your boundaries?

For myself, if I'm picking up momentum with a girl, its got to be me and her only. If there is a lapse, she goes out and bangs some dude in between, I wouldn't see her the same after that. Seems to me the momentum has to start and continue on -- lapses and weird loops just don't seem to work (for me at least).
 

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Hooking up once certainly doesn't make a couple steady, especially if said dude subsequently "pushes her away". In any event, that only means a relationship to an AFC minded person. She can bang whoever she wants right up until the point that she's engaged.

I certainly wouldn't push away a woman who demonstrates that she's not only independent and strong, but also not clingy either.

For me, it's over when they cling after you bang them once like a lost puppy who just found a home.

(disclaimer) I admit though, Buddha, that at 40, I view sex as no big deal. It's something consenting adults do. I see approximately no correlation between sex and a relationship. I would be quite content to have sex with a hot girl and not even know her name. Sometimes you just need to get your rocks off and it only has two things to do with a relationship, the infamous "jack" and "shi*".
 

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My personal philosophy is not to go backwards. Forget her banging the other dudes. If we broke up, or if she left me for some reason, if she didn't realize she had a prize and a good opportunity the first time, she's old news. She blew her chance.

An ex is an ex for a reason. I don't understand the whole "help me get back with my ex" genre.
 

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I think it depends.

If it was some girl I dated a couple times, had sex with and she just kind of
disappeared for whatever reason, then we reconected a while later or whatever, then thats fine.


BUT

If it was a girl that is more so a part of your inner circle, meaning you see her a little more often and you see whats going on, and passively can guess who she hooked up with and what not. Then yeah, its tainted and forget it, she's a FB at best at that point.

So the moral of the story I think is, if its sort of in your face then naturaly thats viewed as negative and in poor taste.
If she 'goes away' then thats fine, she has to do what she has to do and live her life. If we reconnect, no bad image of her
even though you obviously need to assume she banged other guys, dated, whatever..
 

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Today I would say no. Happened with a past gf of mine, but I had hooked up with 4-5 girls in our interim periods so I couldnt really judge.

But now, I would just move on. I dont want any d!cks in there besides my own once I have laid claim.
 

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azanon said:
Hooking up once certainly doesn't make a couple steady, especially if said dude subsequently "pushes her away". In any event, that only means a relationship to an AFC minded person. She can bang whoever she wants right up until the point that she's engaged.

I certainly wouldn't push away a woman who demonstrates that she's not only independent and strong, but also not clingy either.

For me, it's over when they cling after you bang them once like a lost puppy who just found a home.

(disclaimer) I admit though, Buddha, that at 40, I view sex as no big deal. It's something consenting adults do. I see approximately no correlation between sex and a relationship. I would be quite content to have sex with a hot girl and not even know her name. Sometimes you just need to get your rocks off and it only has two things to do with a relationship, the infamous "jack" and "shi*".
I tend to agree with this. Mostly because at 38 years old, I've decided I don't want to get married, I don't want children, and my philosophy is to really just enjoy the moment without any 'labels' on my interactions with women.

However, each situation is different. If I was younger, and looking for a wife/mother of my children, I would not go backwards with a gal this way. To me, it symbolizes that she would settle for me, I would be a second pick to the other guy she got involved with, something to fall back on for security.

If, and only if, I wanted to get married and make a life commitment. I would have to know 100% that I was the #1 guy. The best of the best in her eyes.

I do realize that's some ego talking. Like I said, I've learned through age to ditch that ego and just enjoy women for who they are. In that sense, life is great.

I can relate to the younger guys who want to start a family though. For them, you need to be very careful who you choose to make that commitment with. I would, for them, see a big red flag.
 

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I'm familiar with this situation and it's a huge dilemma.

On the one hand I'm thinking "cool she's tried the rest (hopefully not the whole football team) and she's realised that I'm the best."

On the other hand, if she didn't see me as the best the first time, well that's her bad luck and she can pine for me forever.

I am wary of a comeback girl just "settling" though. That's something that should be judged by her actions only.
 

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Greasy Pig said:
I'm familiar with this situation and it's a huge dilemma.

On the one hand I'm thinking "cool she's tried the rest (hopefully not the whole football team) and she's realised that I'm the best."

On the other hand, if she didn't see me as the best the first time, well that's her bad luck and she can pine for me forever.

I am wary of a comeback girl just "settling" though. That's something that should be judged by her actions only.
I really think that connecting with a long-lost love only works after a significant amount of time apart - maybe a couple of years or more, maybe even much longer than that, where both people have had a chance to grow up and experience life without the other. Essentially you're two different people establishing a different relationship than the one you've had before. I've seen that happen.

But if I had an ex come back into my life, how would I know she's "seen the light" so to speak, as opposed to scurrying for a life raft in a time of need? I want somebody that is totally into me and has the good sense not to screw things up the first time.

There's also a huge trust issue - she walked away the first time, how can I trust she won't do it again? And in my case at least for the ex I'm thinking about, she did it in a particularly heartless and cruel way, would she even respect me for taking her back? If the shoe were on the other foot and I had done to her what she did to me, I'd expect to be told to f*** off if I popped back up in her life proposing getting back together.
 

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If I'm sexing a girl who I'm interested in and she screws another guy, it is over.

I would never re-engage into a relationship with a girl who previously chose someone else.
 

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i'm not really seeing the issue with this.

on a forum where we preach plate spinning, lol, you are going to get mad at a woman for spinning plates? seriously? that's the definition of beta.

Most of our problems with women is because of our ego. The real issue here, is that she hurt your ego. she had a taste of you, and went back to basket robbins for another flavor.


I... I just don't get this mindset at all. whatsoever. first and foremost, if you are going to throw a hissy fit because she had sex with another guy that tells me that you have already pegged this woman as a LTR in your head. which tells me that you have somewhat already developed oneitis to an extent. which means you didn't go into the relationship with an open min in the first place. Which means you aren't exhibiting DJish qualities.


again, we are making sex a moral issue and it's not a moral issue. the woman was horny. she chose to fvck someone else. I fvcked between 4-6 women AFTER i met my wife and she knew about each and every one of them, she didn't like it but she knew about them and i told her look you want me to stop fvcking other women, step up to the plate and give me a reason not to.

Of course every situation has it's very own unique set of circumstances, but the idea of a woman sleeping with another man does nothing to me, because i'm doing the same thing more times than not. I know for a fact my wife slept with someone after i met her.


And let's say you go on 3 dates with a girl, and you find out between the 2nd and 3rd date, she slept with an old friend of hers. you are going to dump her becuase you ahven't built up enough value in her mind? t hat's the sillist crock of **** i have ever heard. youp know what, it's not even silly it's a deflection technique becuase you are deflecting your lack of game on her by calling her a *****. even with that said, to expect a woman to just not F a guy because you went on a date, is silly.

some women may never ever get past the take out half fun screw stage, but still it's a valuable plate. lol, every meal on your plates does not he to be filet mignon. you can sprinkle some hardees in there too lol. plates give you something to do, gives you practice with the opposite sex, lets you practice having sex, etc. you don't get experienc e by trying to peg every woman you met into a wiffe.


I will also add, a woman will f another man to make you commit. most women know they have one real commodity, and if she really wants you to commit and you won't, i assure you she's going to F someone else.. just to let you get the sniff of her leaving. the l ast GF I had before I met my wife, she made it known to me, she was Fing her EX bF, and she did so for no other reason than to get me to stop messing around with other women. she wanted me to commit so she used the only card she really had, Fing her X. when that clearly didn't work, she was puddy in my hand, because at that point she simply was out of cards, and didn't know what to do. So what did she do? whatever I told her to do. She wanted me and had no clue as how to get me to settle down with her. She'd tried "calling me out", she tried flirting with other guys, she tried f'ing my brains out, she finally tried letting someone else get some and let me know about it and none of it work. now what. By "work" I simply mean, getting me to commit to her on her time table and on her terms. I won't go into a relationship unless it's 100% on my terms, because that's the only way it will work.

It was only after that, that I broke her down to the point where I got her to where I wanted her to consider her a seriously LTR, fully committed to me. only then did i cut out the plates. To where I knew she would sit her ass down and be a good 'little girl, and i will be damned if we didn't date for a year, which at the time was by far the longest relationship I had ever been in.

Just about every woman that I dated since i have been grown, and practiced the concept of plate spinning, has had sex with someone else in a last ditch effort to get me to "break my true feelings". They do it becuase it works with 99% of the men out there. Think of it as going up against King Koopa before finally getting to rescue the princess. it's the mother of all **** test. are you going to stand true to your "principles" when you find out I am letting another man have this prime piece of ass?

I am not trying to be a jerk but this line of thinking.. if i fvked you and we aren't dating, and i have the feel will to fvck someone else, and i don't take it, yet you do, than you are a ***** not worth dating.. GTFO out with that crap. this is big boy world and big boy's can deal with women having sexual relations with another man without blowing a gasket.
 
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Lol, Backbreaker. If a woman screws another guy to try to get me to commit, she's really, really, really going about it the wrong way. In fact, she's probably fvcked herself out of a chance with me. The first thing I want to know for her to qualify as a LTR is if she can keep her cooch in her pants. And yes, I do expect her to recognize her opportunity early on.

But it sounds like I'm a bit more territorial than you. Morals, shmorals. I don't want a bunch of d!cks in my girl. Of course, yeah, if the girl is nothing but a sex toy to you, what's the difference?
 

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zekko said:
Lol, Backbreaker. If a woman screws another guy to try to get me to commit, she's really, really, really going about it the wrong way. In fact, she's probably fvcked herself out of a chance with me. The first thing I want to know for her to qualify as a LTR is if she can keep her cooch in her pants. And yes, I do expect her to recognize her opportunity early on.

But it sounds like I'm a bit more territorial than you. Morals, shmorals. I don't want a bunch of d!cks in my girl. Of course, yeah, if the girl is nothing but a sex toy to you, what's the difference?
I just realized once I started dating women, and becoming a man that women desired to be with and in turn, really did not need them, that women, are actually once you break past the shield and the few tricks she has, are much... much... much more AFC then men will ever be. ever.

the avg attractive woman, is used, to batting her eyebrows and throwing on a skirt, throwing out a few hints, acting cute on a few dates and getting what she wants. 10 out of 10 times. Once you set the hook in a woman where she realizes "damn.. I want that motherfvcker right there" and then realizes she cant get you, they are 10x worse than guys are because

1. they have never not gotten what they want and

2. they have other guys that want to fvck them, unlike men afc's.


the combination, will more times than not end up with her using the other guy to get at you. Not because she is a *****, not because she is immoral, because she just doesn't know what else to do. she has never had to resort being patient, or competing overtly with other women before for man's attention.

There is no sosuavette lol. becuase there doesn't need to be. sosuavette consist of "wear somethign cute, fvck him 1 or 2 good times, cook something half decent, talk about how great of a guy he is", throw hints at him you want him to date you. that is pretty much what a sosuavette site would consist of. IN a war between men and women, women defiantly go light infantry lol. so what does a woman do when none of the usual things she has done for her entire life work?

your guess is as good as hers lol.

The only difference between a man AFC and a woman AFC, is that women can develop oneitis while fvcking someone else, becuase for women it has nothing to do with sex.. men genreally get over oneitis once they meet other women. women on the other hand, will lock onto one guy that she really has it in for, and will use other guys around her to get back at him



women don't fvck for the same reasons men fvck. get the silly hall mark idea that sex is some magical wonderful floating in air exchange between two star crossed lovers out of your mind.

Once you take the magical power that sex has away, by acknowledging for what it really is, you start to see just how clueless a woman is when she is dealing with a man that she desperately wants yet can't get to commit.

Once a woman has resorted to fvcking another guy to get to me, they've pretty much fried their last bullet and are standing there with an empty holster and I have a sniper rifle with a full barrel.


Fvck it.. i'll keep it 100% real with you guys. And I know this will not go over well but I don't give a **** because it works for me. I will not consider a LTR with a girl.. UNTIL she tries to fvck another guy and get back to me. Because in my mind, it is only when a woman wants you so bad... that she will try to hurt you by fvcking another man that you know that woman is dead crazy about you.

It also at the same time, she's not such a chumpn that she' sgoing to sit back and just be patient for and let me run over her. I am very much the head of a house hold but i can't date a woman without a back bone. There are times I need a woman to stand up to me.

with that said,k you have to keep in mind, I am a plate spinner. I'll plate spin like i'm in Ringling brothers Barnum and Baily circus, and will make 0 bones about it. I want you to know i'm seeing other women. So it's not like it's one sided.

A woman that likes you from my experience, will go through a very methodical process. First, she will confront you, politly. Most guys will stop right here. go look at the general forum, "Oh she foudn out i went on another date what do i do" lol. then, she will confront you.. agressivly. this is when the "you are a peice of ****" phone calls start. this is my fav stage. and every\y woman does it. Then she will attempt to play hard to get. She tried the regular "falling in love" bit that works with regular guys, showing IOI, being interested, always available, now she's going to flip the script since you are being so "childish" and not be avialable, and try to use basic DJ ish tactics, not answering the phone and stuff like that. then she will start to drop hints that other guys are interested in her. when none of this works, more times than not, she will sleep with a guy and let you know about it. It has nothing ot do with the guy, he's just a dildo that is there. This is all about you. "this will teach that motherfvcker, I can get a man he doesn't know what he is passing up"...

then she smugly drops the hint or somehow you find out that she got her some and she is sitting there waiting for you to react, and when you don't and you continue to do your thing.. sit back and grab a bag of popcorn beucase the meltdown that will ensue, once she realized that you really, do not give a ****, rather she goes or stays.. is quite epic. Once she is fianlly, forced to realize she genuinely, wants to be with you, and that you genuinely, are not going to date her right now or commit to her right now, she throws a temper tantrum. I remember millie sitting in my house crying because... she wasn't even mad anymore.. she just didn't know what she had to do to get me to "stop messing with other girls, I thought you said you liked me, you are willing to let me sleep with another man?".

only then, IMHO, have you completely and utterly broken a woman down to the point where you can have a long lasting relationship. Once you have demonstrated to her taht she isn't going to use her vag as a power saber in the relationship.

I'd be lying if i said this was mjy mind set at the time, it wasn't, this was 4 years ago. I wasn't this smart then. But when I found out she did sleep with a dude, when she told me who it was I knew she didn't like him an I knew it was all about me, i didn't give a ****. It's jsut sex. that dude had been chasing her for a year and he thought it was his lucky day, only for her to be thinking about me the whole time. But it was at that point that night that I knew she was fully committed to dating me and that was the first time I even considered stopping to spin plates, and within a month or so I did completely.

i remember sitting there with her that night and telling her look, Ill be honest, I am crazy about you believe it or not. I really am, I want you and me to work, but on my terms. this is what I want out of a woman...

I don't know how many of you are familiar with pimpin ken or not. He actually wrote a book lol about pimping. I am not a pimp, nor do I wish to be. I'm too business oriented for that ****. But pimps, understand a woman's physco better than 99.9% of males in the world, how else can you get a woman to fvck men and give you all the money lol and be happy about the ****.

When a woman meets a pimp, he makes her break herself, meaning, she needs to give up everything she has to him on the spot. to show that she is fully committed to him. how much ever money she has on her at the time, 500 dollars 1200 dollar,s 5000 dollars, give it up. it's only once a woman has broken her self that she can be a loyal hoe lol. I don't' mean to use that term in a negative fashion but i mean, we are actually talking about hoeing.


lol you probably think I'm the sickest motherfvcker on erath. I have have not had problem Q out of my wife in 4 years. not big problems at least. cooks, cleans, makes me laugh, great in bed, still in shape, great mommy.

the problem with 90% of relationships, is you have women, who actually think they are running ****. who think and kn ow they have control over the relationship.



Not only is a woman sleeping with a man and coming back to you... not wrong.. the **** is damn near mandatory in my book.
 
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backbreaker said:
Think of it as going up against King Koopa before finally getting to rescue the princess. it's the mother of all **** test.
LOL, and the mother of all sh*t tests is the easiest. Just run right under that mofo.
 

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Backbreaker said:
And I know this will not go over well but I don't give a **** because it works for me. I will not consider a LTR with a girl.. UNTIL she tries to fvck another guy and get back to me.
Hey, if it works for you great. I am a firm believer that there is more than one way to skin a cat. For me though, any girl that is under consideration for LTR needs to prove herself worthy by keeping her nose clean. If she goes and screws some other guy she's gone. It's just the way I am, and any girl who reaches that point with me will surely realize that.
 

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zekko said:
Hey, if it works for you great. I am a firm believer that there is more than one way to skin a cat. For me though, any girl that is under consideration for LTR needs to prove herself worthy by keeping her nose clean. If she goes and screws some other guy she's gone. It's just the way I am, and any girl who reaches that point with me will surely realize that.
Agree - I don't want to be stirring some other guys fresh porridge.
 

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This is just me getting philosophical but I get the feeling that guys with backbreakers attitude ironically end up hooking up with the more loyal ones. Its like one of those old psychological axioms, "you create what you fear" something like that...
 

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This is just me getting philosophical but I get the feeling that guys with backbreakers attitude ironically end up hooking up with the more loyal ones. Its like one of those old psychological axioms, "you create what you fear" something like that...
man you guys have no idea just how AFC I was before I found this site. I tried the normal dating routine **** and was not only having girls breaking up with me, I had a girl despise me so much she bragged about getting ran through at a party WHILE WE WERE DATING.. girls just despising me. girls withholding sex to get me to do **** for them.. never again.


it works. but it works for me, because of the way I naturally weed out women by spinning plates. I will not date a woman until I know she has utterly given up trying to things on her terms. She has to admit that she really wants me and is willing to do things on my terms if that is what having me means. if that means her trying to "get back at me" by sleepin with someone else, than that's what has to happen. seeing the forest beyond the trees so to speak
 

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Buddha_Mind said:
Would you still take her seriously?

Not a personal experience, but occurring around me and not always sure what to think. Dude and chick hook up. Dude very into chick, perhaps AFC pushes her away, she bangs other guys, then brings back on high IOI's to original dude.

If original dude, is she tainted now?

What are your boundaries?

For myself, if I'm picking up momentum with a girl, its got to be me and her only. If there is a lapse, she goes out and bangs some dude in between, I wouldn't see her the same after that. Seems to me the momentum has to start and continue on -- lapses and weird loops just don't seem to work (for me at least).
Depends on if I got mine and how I felt about her. If it was all lovey dovey AFC stuff, then she'd be tainted for sure. Doubly so if I was celibate during the time she was riding the carousel. If she got laid once by some guy she semi-dated and I had a string of flings I'd probably be more forgiving, assuming I wasn't in love with her or anything. As soon as feelings get involved though I know I would have a HUGE problem with it. like someone else had said, if we were young, broke up, then did our own thing for several years and then started dating again, I'd probably view it like a brand new relationship so the history in between would be...muted.
 
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