I am tired of blackpillers and anti-self improvement guys on here

[BillyPilgrim]

Let me clarify: In my opinion, Sosuave is for men wanting to date hot single fertile girls under 30. If the woman is 30+, fat, ugly, or single mother, a man should not need Sosuave. Anything can be discussed here (saving politics), but a man should not “need” advice here for a woman with any or all of those conditions.

Ive never seen threads saying “the woman is 41, single mother of 2 boys, losing her looks and bit overweight. She hasn’t responded to my text in 24 hours.” Why? Because a man instinctively knows what to do in that situation.

Its more “The girl is 24 and is confused about our relationship” or “the girl is 27 and doesn’t feel like having sex”. When the girl is young, and hot, and fertile, the man gets a little more nervous there.

My thoughts only.

Many of those girls a dumber than a bag of rocks though. That's what a lot of young guys don't get, or they're ok with it.

 

[kavi]

And how in the hell do you know the creator of the universe is the same entity(ies) parading around in the bible and cantankerously barking out orders?

How do you know "God" isn't some whited-skinned humanoid extraterrestrial assh0le attempting to use us as a slave species?

How, Murk?

Kavi Usan was the greatest of Kings. Kavis are Kings amongst Kings, having no rivals, enemies or equals. Kavis are WORLD Kings not of Countries or Tribes.

This is the reason why the Anglo IMPERIAL crown has the Kavi Banner atop the GLOBE. For the Empire represesnt Kingship of the World so only the Kayanian Banner can legitimize it.

Know that Kavis are above religions and know of all religions. This only a Kavi can tell you. Prometheus brought Fire for Mankind from the Gods, and he also fashioned man from clay. In the Abrahamic faiths God also made man from clay. To make anything from clay only two things are needed, Earth and Fire. But the Abrahamic peoples lost the knowledge of the Fire.

The Abrahamics lost the Fire of the Civilization but Kavi can complete the myth, as in ancient times Bhrigu taught man the kindling of the Fire.

It is all about the Fire. When God made man from clay it is not about God, it is about the Fire. For nothing can be made from clay without Fire. Those religions lost the knowledge of the Fire but now Kavi completes the myths and shows everyone the missing element is the Fire of Civilization, with which man was created from earth. The Pure Fire must be rekindled.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

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Kavi Usan was the greatest of Kings. Kavis are Kings amongst Kings, having no rivals, enemies or equals. Kavis are WORLD Kings not of Countries or Tribes.

This is the reason why the Anglo IMPERIAL crown has the Kavi Banner atop the GLOBE. For the Empire represesnt Kingship of the World so only the Kayanian Banner can legitimize it.

Know that Kavis are above religions and know of all religions. This only a Kavi can tell you. Prometheus brought Fire for Mankind from the Gods, and he also fashioned man from clay. In the Abrahamic faiths God also made man from clay. To make anything from clay only two things are needed, Earth and Fire. But the Abrahamic peoples lost the knowledge of the Fire.

The Abrahamics lost the Fire of the Civilization but Kavi can complete the myth, as in ancient times Bhrigu taught man the kindling of the Fire.

It is all about the Fire. When God made man from clay it is not about God, it is about the Fire. For nothing can be made from clay without Fire. Those religions lost the knowledge of the Fire but now Kavi completes the myths and shows everyone the missing element is the Fire of Civilization, with which man was created from earth. The Pure Fire must be rekindled.

 

[SW15]

I agree the bulk of the postings will be from younger men (than me) looking for advice on how to approach a young woman, they rely on grizzled old lotharios like me and a few others to lay down some sage advice after the bluster thrown down by their peers.

You seem to think that there are no women over 40 with killer physiques and great looks. And this is because it’s not where you hunt. There are a good cross section of us here 40 and older that are sleeping with and dating women that are older than your supposed target. And no it’s not as easy as you claim it to be.

At a certain age, it doesn't make a lot of sense for a man to be pursuing women under 30. That age is somewhere around 40-45 and that's even for somewhat high value men. Even for a 40 year old man, getting a 29 year old would be somewhat difficult. A 50 year old man who is pursuing women 18-29 is going to encounter a lot of resistance.

There are more and more childless women 30+. Some might be decent for relationships.

Ive never seen threads saying “the woman is 41, single mother of 2 boys, losing her looks and bit overweight. She hasn’t responded to my text in 24 hours.” Why? Because a man instinctively knows what to do in that situation.

Its more “The girl is 24 and is confused about our relationship” or “the girl is 27 and doesn’t feel like having sex”. When the girl is young, and hot, and fertile, the man gets a little more nervous there.

A guy with more red pill awareness isn't going to want to go after a ~40 year old single mother of 2 who is slightly overweight. Only a desperate childless man would be interested in that. There are some single dads who are ok with dating single moms.

Almost no men are going to be concerned with retaining that ~40 year old single mom prospect you describe, even single dads and/or blue pill men.

I agree that men are more interested in hot, young, and fertile women. Hot, young, and undamaged is the term Wheat Waffles uses.

There are men who would be interested in a fit, childless, 35 year old woman and would get nervous about things in that interaction.

I had 2 dates this week set up with 2 women and I almost forgot about both of them. One of them phoned me and said “are we still on?” Why didn’t I care? Because the women, decent looking, were 34+, It’s like who cares.

I'm surprised that a 35-40 year old woman actually picked up a telephone to make a voice call. The 35-40 year olds of today were the first generation to get into texting big time. I would not expect any woman 40 and under now to initiate a phone call.

If these women were 34 and 37, most men wouldn't be as interested in them as a 24 and 27 year old. However, plenty of men will be interested in a childless, not overweight 34 or 37 year old and will want an LTR with them.

Men today are so thirsty that they are willing to commit to 30 something single moms, even when they are childless.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

@CollegeMan22 I can give my take on this. This all spawned from the PUAHate Forum back a decade ago. It was supposed to be a forum where dudes who got ripped off by PUAs could warn others about them. Then that forum had a general discussion section which was just sexless dudes making up theories and being overall racist incels. Over the years, it spread to other forums throughout the internet and the Black Pill was born.

Then, a lot of prominent PUAs either got cancelled (RSD for instance) or just got out of the game altogether. This led to a huge vacuum in the community as newer PUAs who wanted to be taken seriously had to acknowledge the Black Pill and how much looks matter or they would be seen as "blue pill".

But OP, you should be happy about this.

The few men who do cold approach right are setting themselves apart even more. If you do cold approach and do it right, you are truly differentiating yourself now. The chance to get ahead and be in the top 10% has never been so available. Most men are being beaten up by the negativity and quitting, let them.

I get it, the depressing posts get annoying but you can ignore all that and focus on the game. You can get better results now with good game than you would have a decade ago where everyone was cold approaching under good guidance.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

Let em go black pill and mgtow. As long as they're not spraying bullets from an AR 15 I don't care. Be miserable and hate womyn if you want. If you're not getting better you're gettin worse, thas just a fact.

I'm out there walking the walk. Number closes mean nothing anymore, half the time i don't contact. Fukks come and go. I've got my money to grow and shyt to do. Approaches aren't even approaches, just me living and flowing.

 

[devilkingx2]

I think the purpose of the blackpill is to focus on looks, so the value of it is the worthwhile looksmaxxing advice and advice on what to do if women find you unattractive looking.

PUAs already exist to focus on game

The red pill mostly focuses on money, status and masculinity.

But I'd say looks are just as important as money, status and game and it needs to be focused on too.

I dislike the doomer blackpill stuff where it's all hate and negativity and ****ting on everything. But I dislike the red pill guys who are all about ****ting on women and men and dating too.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

This forum is becoming more and more blackpill. People are using the terms normie, chadlite, and chad seriously. I sense a large amount of apathy and disillusionment in the people who use these terms. They feel that they are confined to a certain league, defined by their looks, and are condemned to stay there. Approaching becomes pointless because no girls will respond.

This mentality was not in the PUA community in its heyday. When you read Roosh, Strauss, and especially Pook, you feel excited. You hear cool stories and you get pumped to try the tactics yourself. You may have once sucked with women, but writers like those above give you a spark to take action and approach. They remind you that you will fail, but that eventually — sometime — you will succeed.

You're correct.
But you must also remember that it was different times the boomers and GenX still consisted of strong men that got a proper upbringing which set the tone back then in the 90'tes and early 2000'nds.

The generations today consists of a lot of weak men that all they know is to complain and whine as they are snowflakes and been told that they are "so special" all to find out later that life is harder and more complex than they were told and hence they moan and complain.

So they come here on SS and look for the miracle cure and highway to get girls, only to find out that it isn't like that here either... and then we get the end product which you mention... = low/er quality content on SS.

Also back then we did not have all the bat sheit crazy leftist, feminist, #metoo, LGBT movements, political correctness which influence negatively on the pua scene. You could get away with a lot of stuff back then, but today bitches will call you out for bs toxic masculinity, misogynist and all the bs that comes along with it. so that doesn't make things better. On top of that we have the social media and everybody "Ms nobody" and "Mr nobody" has voice through their smartphones and all the narcissisms that comes along with that, dating apps etc. etc.

Times have changed and will not go back to how it was probably for or long time, if ever.,

 

[Stanley]

You're correct.
But you must also remember that it was different times the boomers and GenX still consisted of strong men that got a proper upbringing which set the tone back then in the 90'tes and early 2000'nds.

The generations today consists of a lot of weak men that all they know is to complain and whine as they are snowflakes and been told that they are "so special" all to find out later that life is harder and more complex than they were told and hence they moan and complain.

So they come here on SS and look for the miracle cure and highway to get girls, only to find out that it isn't like that here either... and then we get the end product which you mention... = low/er quality content on SS.

Also back then we did not have all the bat sheit crazy leftist, feminist, #metoo, LGBT movements, political correctness which influence negatively on the pua scene. You could get away with a lot of stuff back then, but today bitches will call you out for bs toxic masculinity, misogynist and all the bs that comes along with it. so that doesn't make things better. On top of that we have the social media and everybody "Ms nobody" and "Mr nobody" has voice through their smartphones and all the narcissisms that comes along with that, dating apps etc. etc.

Times have changed and will not go back to how it was probably for or long time, if ever.,

A lot of young guys are afraid to do anything as result of this. The me2 movement and all the girl who cried wolf shenanigans brought on more pressures for young guys. I'm not surprised many have given up all together. I don't agree with it at all, but understand it.

 

[CollegeMan22]

A lot of young guys are afraid to do anything as result of this. The me2 movement and all the girl who cried wolf shenanigans brought on more pressures for young guys. I'm not surprised many have given up all together. I don't agree with it at all, but understand it.

Yeah they’ve heard all this stuff in the MSM and on SJW social media sites and are scared. I’m sure you’ve seen the collective hating that evil “woman harassers” get on reddit when this stuff goes too public. That amplifies their fears and gives them a justification not to approach.

The whole MeTwo thing really fvcked things up. But the reality is that you have basically zero chance of getting reported for “harassment” — even on a college campus — if you look decent. If you look like sh1t, you are an evil “woman harasser” and creep. If you look average, you are a minor nuisance, a story for the girls. If you look great, you may just be the guy to sweep her away.

I’ve never been called a harasser or got a strongly negative reaction from approaching. But one thing I don’t do is go direct during the day. I try to go slow to prevent any possible repercussions. At this point, after doing it for so long, it really doesn’t factor into my mind. If you got some muscle you’ll be good approaching — not saying you’ll won’t be rejected time after time, but nobody will be reporting you for an incident. You gotta be able to read the girl and situation, knowing when she’s not interested. At that point, just excuse yourself, as you can never force anything.

 

[characternote]

The reality is that you have basically zero chance of getting reported for “harassment” — even on a college campus — if you look decent. If you look like sh1t, you are an evil “woman harasser” and creep. If you look average, you are a minor nuisance, a story for the girls. If you look great, you may just be the guy to sweep her away.

You say you hate the blackpill stuff, but this is exactly what a lot of them are saying.
That your looks determine your success with cold approach
As you say, handsome =sweep her away, average = minor nuisance, ugly = reported for harassment haha

 

[Stanley]

You say you hate the blackpill stuff, but this is exactly what a lot of them are saying.
That your looks determine your success with cold approach
As you say, handsome =sweep her away, average = minor nuisance, ugly = reported for harassment haha

Not necessarily. This is anecdotal but

I've had my run ins with title 9 based off a false report from a girl. She was poly and wanted to hook up with me and told me this over a school zoom call during covid. I rejected her offer and she then later reported me for sexual harassment, it fell on deaf ears as I had a paper trail of her shenanigans. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned

At my bartending job a server continually came onto me and grabbed my schlong through my pants. Told her I didn't appreciate it and the dishwasher saw it happen. Next day she doesn't come to work and when called claims myself and our head Chef sexually harassed her.

These were women that came on to me and took the power they held over men to full advantage. Even If a girl is into your looks if you do something she doesn't like or gets the 'ick' it doesn't matter it can still go south fast. Does it happen less with a good looking dude? For sure.

Young guys should be at least observant of this cancel like power chicks hold in today's world, it is real and happens frequently in college settings now

Looks 100% matter, but blackpill reasoning places everything on looks above all else.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

At my bartending job a server continually came onto me and grabbed my schlong through my pants. Told her I didn't appreciate it and the dishwasher saw it happen. Next day she doesn't come to work and when called claims myself and our head Chef sexually harassed her

That is just a crazy story brother. So she gets rejected and next day she runs to the your F&B manager and claims you had sexually harassed her as a revenge for the non interest from your side. Wow.. You cannot make sheite like that up...

So did your boss see through the bullcr@ap and warned her/fired her for it or?

 

[Barrister]

Let me clarify: In my opinion, Sosuave is for men wanting to date hot single fertile girls under 30. If the woman is 30+, fat, ugly, or single mother, a man should not need Sosuave. Anything can be discussed here (saving politics), but a man should not “need” advice here for a woman with any or all of those conditions.

Ive never seen threads saying “the woman is 41, single mother of 2 boys, losing her looks and bit overweight. She hasn’t responded to my text in 24 hours.” Why? Because a man instinctively knows what to do in that situation.

Its more “The girl is 24 and is confused about our relationship” or “the girl is 27 and doesn’t feel like having sex”. When the girl is young, and hot, and fertile, the man gets a little more nervous there.

My thoughts only.

Actually there are many posts regarding older women over the years here at SS. Especially from some of the classic guys like biggoal. Now, everyone wants an 18-29 year old, but this is a forum to discuss women of all ages. Women in their 30s and 40s are still going to be relevant on here.

 

[Stanley]

That is just a crazy story brother. So she gets rejected and next day she runs to the your F&B manager and claims you had sexually harassed her as a revenge for the non interest from your side. Wow.. You cannot make sheite like that up...

So did your boss see through the bullcr@ap and warned her/fired her for it or?

More or less. There is more detail to that story and others, but yes my gm saw through it as I worked closely beside him at this job and was a long time employee. This was a gig where basically everyone was trying to funk everyone (country clubs), but this girl was a no go for reasons. She wasn't fired per say, just didn't show up again.

 

[SW15]

But the reality is that you have basically zero chance of getting reported for “harassment” — even on a college campus — if you look decent. If you look like sh1t, you are an evil “woman harasser” and creep. If you look average, you are a minor nuisance, a story for the girls. If you look great, you may just be the guy to sweep her away.

I’ve never been called a harasser or got a strongly negative reaction from approaching. But one thing I don’t do is go direct during the day. I try to go slow to prevent any possible repercussions. At this point, after doing it for so long, it really doesn’t factor into my mind. If you got some muscle you’ll be good approaching — not saying you’ll won’t be rejected time after time, but nobody will be reporting you for an incident. You gotta be able to read the girl and situation, knowing when she’s not interested. At that point, just excuse yourself, as you can never force anything.

I've never been reported for harassment. I've never caught the attention of retail store managers or mall security. For the women that rejected me on a daytime cold approach, I've likely been a minor nuisance that they forgot about within 48 hours.

My style is closer to indirect than direct. Outdoor approaching can be more direct. Indoor retail is better off indirect as women have the option of alerting mall security or a store manager.

Social skill and at least average looks are usually good enough to avoid getting reported.

you must also remember that it was different times the boomers and GenX still consisted of strong men that got a proper upbringing which set the tone back then in the 90'tes and early 2000'nds.

The generations today consists of a lot of weak men that all they know is to complain and whine as they are snowflakes and been told that they are "so special" all to find out later that life is harder and more complex than they were told and hence they moan and complain.

So they come here on SS and look for the miracle cure and highway to get girls, only to find out that it isn't like that here either... and then we get the end product which you mention... = low/er quality content on SS.

Also back then we did not have all the bat sheit crazy leftist, feminist, #metoo, LGBT movements, political correctness which influence negatively on the pua scene. You could get away with a lot of stuff back then, but today bitches will call you out for bs toxic masculinity, misogynist and all the bs that comes along with it. so that doesn't make things better. On top of that we have the social media and everybody "Ms nobody" and "Mr nobody" has voice through their smartphones and all the narcissisms that comes along with that, dating apps etc. etc.

This is a great comparison of Boomers and Gen X'ers to Millennials and the up and coming Gen Z group. The black pill/MGTOW/incel all took off with the Millennial generation and will persist into Gen Z.

 

[devilkingx2]

Ive never seen threads saying “the woman is 41, single mother of 2 boys, losing her looks and bit overweight. She hasn’t responded to my text in 24 hours.” Why? Because a man instinctively knows what to do in that situation.

I'm actually pretty sure I've seen that exact thread before.

 

[lost_blackbird]

Well, that was an interesting read.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Depressed people is a given. The point of a revolving door of newcomers is that we are giving them treatment with each case. Let them come in blackpilled or whatever. That's the point. We're suppose to wake them up.

 

[BadBoy89]

Now, everyone wants an 18-29 year old, but this is a forum to discuss women of all ages. Women in their 30s and 40s are still going to be relevant on here.

How can any guy who looks decent / has money not know what to do with a 40+ year old women? How does a 40 year old woman have any leverage?

Now I can’t get 18 year olds but come on, 40+ women? My guy friend has more leverage than her.