How do you get rid of a BPD woman?

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Bible_Belt

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oh the irony

My bpd girl just told me that she got accepted to be a 'suicide girl' at http://suicidegirls.com/ She gets a pro photo shoot and a little bit of money out of it. I not a suicide girls fan, a lot of them look like corpses, but she is happy. And I can say that I kinda sorta fvck a porn star.

Here is a pic of her last night sitting at my computer:
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x252/dotheopposite/af3.jpg

And here are a couple of her that a female photographer friend took recently:
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x252/dotheopposite/af4.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x252/dotheopposite/af5.jpg

I will probably take those pics down eventually, but the links will work for a while.
 

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UGGhhh... *sigh*

My name's Vulpine, and, I have an ex who is BPD.

I wish I spotted this thread about two years ago.

I only wanted to contribute (or agree with previously mentioned but easily noticed) a few experiences to help. I was still fairly fresh in my DJ evolution, and this chick hooked me.

- In the pickup, I couldn't believe how blatant the IOI's were. I thought I was on a rampage! The initial hooking up was, indeed, TOO easy.

- During arguments (which typically stemmed from me holding her accountable for poor behavior) a BPD will flip-flop between rage against you and rage against themselves. "You're so controlling! You're right. I hate myself! I don't know what's wrong with me!" If you hear something resembling "I hate you because I hate myself", take notice. It's crazy, screaming at the top of their lungs, browbeating you, then bawling about how ƒucked up they are?

- I can't stress this enough: pay attention to their past. This goes for any and all women! Also, pay attention to their hobbies. BPD's have no "sense of self", so, they don't have hobbies of their own besides dating. They readily participate in things that you do, but, when asked, don't have any unique hobbies of their own. "I watch TV, read books, uh..." :nervous:

- "...brief but intense relationships..." My last BPD admitted to me around the 6 or 7 month mark: "This is the longest I've ever been with anyone." Yikes. Anyway, stories of crazy stalkers, like more than one, were there. Also, dudes blowing up her phone 24/7...

- Now, looking back, actions versus words stands out "differently". BPD's are masters of lying, so, there's always an alias. But, over time, I realized that she could never be shown how her behavior was "wrong". She couldn't see a problem with flaking, not coming home, or otherwise being impulsive and messing up plans. BPD's just don't empathize, in fact, they portray you as a villain for not trusting, not believing their words, and not turning yourself over entirely to them. Indeed, they manipulate you into living your life around them.

The end of the relationship came when I had finally had enough of the treatment. I (finally) came to the realization that "this is not how you treat someone you care about or want to be with". I had to step back and look at the overall treatment, because, catching them "red-handed" in a situation was virtually impossible. They twist and squirm; they manipulate and extort your emotions; and they lie or coerce others to lie for them. Ultimately, the whole relationship felt like a year-and-a-half long ONS.

And, someone mentioned "paint yourself black" as the way to get them to avoid you. This is really the only way. You demonstrate that you are "hip to their tricks, and they aren't going to work anymore". See, their whole social circle, and their family, are in their pockets and will only enable them to continue their behavior. They will deny any problems with THEM (the BPD) because they won't be able to justify or relate to your experiences: what they see is only the manipulation of the BPD, they typically don't have enough exposure, or are intimate enough with the BPD, to see it themselves. Unless someone else calls them out as BPD and someone you inform thinks "this isn't the first time I've heard that", chances are, you won't get any "sympathy". But, do it anyway, guys, if you are ever in this position. That way, someone else might just think: "this isn't the first time I've heard that".

In my case, after I had enough of her treatment (one night after a fight and flake-out), I mounted my guns and unleashed a fury of such magnitude that it would reduce her to dust. I carpet bombed her ass to destroy her world. "If this is how you love, then, your love SUCKS and I don't want it. ...I've been damn careful to avoid bar-sluts, and here you are, a coked-up bar-slut. DAMN, did you have me fooled!" Then, I proceeded to kick her out into the street.

The reason it works is, if there is any more contact, you will destroy her web of lies and she would lose the support of her family and friends. So, the BPD would rather be abandoned by the one person, who probably knows them best, than to lose the enabling of the people who are "under her spell".

I called her mother, e-mailed her stepfather, called her cousin, I let her real father know, and I let all of her friends know: "We broke up because she is BPD. Oh, and she's on coke." All of whom, of course, denied the problem.

Which, coincidentally, is partially the cause of BPD, in my conclusion.

Some psychiatrists believe that some of the cause lies in the "discounting" emotions of the person. In this chick's case, her father abandoned her through a divorce. Moreover, her mother was ultra-controlling: she ran nearly every aspect of this chick's life, regardless of the wants/needs/emotions of the chick! Now, you factor in some PTSD-type catalysts, in her case an abortion and a "he didn't stop when I told him no", and you've got yourself a twisted personality.

I feel hustled.

I really gave a lot to this con-artist. I was straight-up swindled, hornswoggled, and cheated out of nearly 2 years of my life.

But, thanks to this site, I can see it for what it is, and chalk it up to experience.

The sex WAS awesome (complained that I didn't ƒuck her in the ass enough), and I made her pay half the rent without being on the lease, so, there were some benefits.

Given the nature of the relationship, however, as much as I try to miss her, or worry about her, or wonder about her ƒucked up future...



...the ever-evolving DJ in me can't help but to scream: "ƒUCK THAT THIEF! SHE STOLE YOUR TIME, ATTENTION, EFFORTS, ENERGY, AND AFFECTION! SHE DIDN'T EARN IT, SHE STOLE IT! AND, ƒUCK THE PAST, TOO! DON'T LET IT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE!"

But the sex was awesome... I've got videos to prove it.
 

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A young guy I know has a girlfriend who is bpd. Neither of them know it yet, but I can tell by talking to him that she is bpd. She had a parent leave her at an early age, and is both hot and crazy like my own bpd girl. They have a fight & fvck relationship, but the fights keep getting worse. The last time they fought, she told everyone she could in their small town that he beat her up, yet she had not a mark on her. This guy knows how to fight, too - her claims were ridiculous. Yet she got a restraining order issued to her anyway. So then she calls him crying and apologizing and gets him to come over so she can throw herself at him with some wild bpd girl sex. Of course, after the sex they start fighting again, she calls the cops, and he goes to jail for violating the order.

It gets better. After he bails out, his bail having the condition of staying away from her and obeying the original order, the same thing happens again. She got him to come back to her. They have not fought yet, but it is only a matter of time before she lands him back in jail. Everyone in this guy's life is telling him to stay away from this girl, myself included, but he is not listening. He can't or won't get rid of his bpd girl.
 

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You should give him a link to bpdfamily.org Bible Belt.

They have a staying section there on the forums.

It can at least help him understand things better so maybe he can get an advantage on the situation.
 

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jophil28 said:
I agree with Dr Meat- High functioning BPDs who are very attractive will not chase you OVERTLY. They are much more wily and cunning and skilled than the average BPD femme...
The "helping professions" have many PD women in its ranks . Lots to choose from -ha !
I regard Siocial Workers, teachers, cops, medical practitioners, psychologists and lawyers with suspicion. BE wary of any woman who works with the young, the ill, the disadvantaged, or the poor. Be VERY wary of any woman who makes a living from other peoples' suffering or vulnerability,
This is where you find the high functioning PDs.
U left out hairdressers
 

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PTC said:
U left out hairdressers
No sh¡t.

My last BPD's mother was a nurse who became a hairdresser. The BPD wanted to be a teacher, but is becoming a dental hygienist instead...

Creepy!
 

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Vulpine said:
No sh¡t.

My last BPD's mother was a nurse who became a hairdresser. The BPD wanted to be a teacher, but is becoming a dental hygienist instead...

Creepy!
I read this whole thread again. It about says it all.

None of us who have tried to have a relationship with a Cluster B femme knew what we were getting into and how impossible the task.
None of us knew what to look for and what to run from.
None of us expected that the relationship would change us permanently ,and not all for the better.
None of us guessed for a second that that ultra feminine adorable child/ women who looked at us with those loving eyes and who wanted a sexual relationship so quickly with such abandon would reveal herself a few months later as Satan's daughter capable of such callousness .

None of us saw our first BPD girl coming, but thanks to all,the insight and information on this board I will recognise my SECOND BPD the moment she may look in my direction, or talks her "talk ".

Warned is armed , men.
 

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Creepy, isn't it? Both articles are exactly correct on every trait about bpd. I sent the links to my ex-wife, who is ironically a marriage counselor now. She knows bpd better than most counselors because her sister is a borderline.

My bpd girl just moved away. We have talked on the phone a lot. Crazy as it is, I miss her and I love her. That article talks about how they are typically beautiful women who are experts at seducing men and that is spot on. But I am going to keep reminding myself that if I did dump my girlfriend for her, she'd lose interest in me very quickly, as has happened before, and this is what has kept me from acting on any of the feelings I have for her. Just like the article says, she is my 'other woman.' She has said that she always seems to be that girl.
 

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Vlad the Impaler said:
I'm starting to wonder what girls I made threads about have BPD.
More importantly, start to filter out and discard those women that you will meet in the near future who demonstrate BPD behavior.

Here is a short "working list" of Bell clangers..

*She has a history of stormy relationships
*She uses sex as bait to hook you quickly. Introduces "sex talk " into texts,calls or emails. Very flirty in the first week. Has a child/ women persona.
*She is never "responsible " for any of the events in her past and appears to not own her life decisions.
*Frequently is still connected to her last male victim( she is still draining him emotionally) but portrays herself as a sweet, trusting ,caring innocent victim of that "nasty man ".
* In the first month or so she will create some disturbing dramatic event with you to test your limits of tolerance.
*She treats you like a king one minute and then treats you like a piece of snot the next . She devalues you in a heart beat and then acts as if nothing happened. Impulsive and highly inconsistent behavior.
* Has no hobbies, recreation or outside interests .
* Frequently has girlfriends who treat her like a "lost child".
*Is extemely sensitive about her appearance but may have no fashion style or a small wardrobe.

I could go on...
 

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Bible_Belt said:
That article talks about how they are typically beautiful women who are experts at seducing men and that is spot on.
BPD women freqently are the ultra feminine "china doll "types who act like seductive Lolitas.
Beyond sweet...cooperative, helpful and so easy to be with ...butter would not melt.
My BPD said outright in the first week " I am passive and compliant " as she batted her eyelashes...

Little did I ever expect that this angelic creature in front of me was Satan's daughter in disguise...
 

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JonnyWWW said:
I was recently involved with a gorgeous BPD for almost two years. I didn't realize this until I read up on it here. I ignored the red flags and thought I could handle it.
I only read this far and knew exactly what to type as a reply.
DO NOT CONTACT HER for any reason.

I am usually a gentlemen and I place high value on courteous and polite behavior toward others, BUT I make an exception for women with BPD.

I suggest that you do likewise.

Dealing with a BPD women is like negotiating with a tumor.
 

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I am still in touch with my bpd girl. She loves me in her crazy way, and I lust after her in my own crazy way, but I am still rational enough to know that she only wants me because I have a girlfriend. As soon as she has me to herself, I would become boring.

With bpd, it is all or nothing, they either love you or hate you. And that changes if you let it. The way that I handle my bpd girl is to do to her what she does to men, be insincere and patronizing. Always be available to talk to her; when she calls me drunk and tells me she loves me, I'll sit there with my girlfriend next to me and tell her I love her, too. Then I'll send her a myspace message the next morning about how I love her forever, blah blah blah, some sappy Hallmark bs. I learned this from her - that's how she treats guys. As soon as I tell her I love her, she'll go away for a few days.

The constant stream of broken AFC hearts that my bpd girl, or any other, leaves in her wake is amazing. But that's what they do. I am guessing that the most famous mistresses and seductresses in history all had bpd. The Biblical King David cheated on his wife with a hot chick named Bathsheba - then she caused enough drama to get men killed. That's bpd - it has been around for all of history.
 

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JonnyWWW said:
Why doesn't she just disappear after shafting me like she did?
It's not for you to care about anymore, Jonny.

Instead, rage out with some TooL and go lift.

I recommend you pump "Flood" in your earholes as soon as possible. And, I don't mean at a friendly volume, I mean make your ears bleed, dude. (this goes for any breakup, really)

Flood
Here comes the water.

All I knew and all I believed
are crumbling images

that no longer comfort me.
I scramble to
reach higher ground,
some order and sanity,
or something to comfort me.

So I take what is mine,
and hold what is mine,

suffocate what is mine,
and bury what's mine.
Soon the water will come
and claim what is mine.
I must leave it behind,
and climb to a new place now.

This ground is not the rock I...
thought it to be.

Thought I was high;
thought I was free;
thought I was there:
divine destiny.

I was wrong.
This changes everything.

(runnin' away, runnin' away now...)

I take what is mine,
and hold what is mine;
suffocate what is mine,
and bury what's mine.
Soon the water will come
and claim what is mine.
I must leave it behind,
and climb to a new place -
The water is rising up on me.
Said the water's rising up on me.
Thought the sun would come deliver me,
but the truth has come to punish me instead.

The ground is breaking down right under me.
Cleanse and purge me
in the water.
:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

Then, proceed to listen to "H." and "forty-six and two".
You'll feel better about it in no time.

Nevermind her, that's your past now, move forward and work on yourself.
 

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JonnyWWW said:
I agree 100% about not contacting her and I haven't for 2 months. But she is still "hovering" around me when she could easily disappear.
You cannot make sense out of nonsense, and BPD women make no sense- not even to the professionals who try to treat them.

THie point is that she and you failed to create a fulfilling relationship .
Why ? Who really cares.

I gather that you might be harboring some flicker of hope that she REALLY does like you and is hovering around waiting for the right time to reappoach you? Perhaps - perhaps she is just doing what BPD women do - bizarre, meaningless, stupid, mindless gameplaying..BPD women are master mindfvckers and game players with NO conscience. They enjoy hurting men whom thay have snared into their sex trap. These women are called "Vampires" for very good reason.

JUst ignore her. ANY contact initiated by you will probably be interpreted by her as a sign of interest by you. Even if you screamed at her to "f**k off forever" she will twist that into a sure sign that you are still enamoured by her.
They are NUTS ...remember that and stay NO CONTACT for your own sanity.
 

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OK How do you get rid of her? YOU DON'T LET HER IN TO BEGIN WITH. If there's anything I've learned it's this. I started this silly thread all because I let one IN! SET YOUR BOUNDARIES IN THE BEGINNING.
Good Lord isn't that easier?

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jophil28 said:
I gather that you might be harboring some flicker of hope that she REALLY does like you and is hovering around waiting for the right time to reappoach you?
No, maybe the first week or two after the sudden breakup but certainly not now - two months later. That window of opportunity where a normal person realizes they made a mistake or said some things out of anger, and apologizes, has long since past.

After reading some links (like http://sharischreiber.com/anycost.html), threads, listening to you guys, and after speaking with one of her former girlfriends, I realize my ex is a textbook BPD case. Probably stemming from her mom's suicide when she was young. Her mother had terminal cancer and committed suicide by jumping off the balcony where they lived.

Knowing what I know now I am almost glad that she cheated on me, left me for another guy, and was so unbelievably cold and cruel about it afterwards -- thus burning any bridges she could have used to try and slither her way back into my life and allowing me time to recover.
 

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"I have the option of blocking her IPs from the site and disabling her account. Should I do this? Or should I continue to ignore her no matter what she does and no matter how much it aggravates me?"

Block her from the sites.

Do this not out of any petty revenge.

Don't lower yourself to her level like that.

Instead block her from the sites to prevent her from harming anyone else under your watch.

Also you could put a link to BPDfamily.org somewhere on your site and sticky it since yours are dating sites and the link would be appropriate there.

These predators must be identified by the general public to avoid anymore people getting damaged by them.

If your BPD contacts you again you can tell her to stay away from you or if possible you could change all your contact info now or block her from it such as telephone/email/etc.

Under no circumstance though do you make contact with her.

Your main job is to stay no contact.

If she confronts you in person tell her the same stay away from you message.

The idea here is not to turn over anymore of your power to the BPD who only wants to get a reaction out of you that she would want to see such as a desire from you to take her back at which point she would either get with you for a while only to betray you callously and brutally later or immediately after she hears the words indicating you still want her so she can get her pathetic validation fix.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgXaVL1qkHw

Anyway I just found this song tonight and I thought it summed up the emptiness and searching for who we are after the BPD relationship has come to an end far after the majority of the pain we go through has finally ended in our minds or at least subsided.

The song is haunting similarly to how the BPD experiences haunts many of us for a very long time.

"Why doesn't she just disappear after shafting me like she did?"

Again she just wants validation, she wants an emotional reaction out of you, anything to validate her pathetic existance. She has no sense of self like normal humans do so she must vampire personality and feeling out of others to feel alive. She is hovering because she likely doesn't feel like she's gotten her fix from you emotionally yet completely. In other words you haven't been broken yet as fully as she wants and there is still some light in your soul for her to vampire away before she can totally let you go.
 

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She hovers because she wants to know that you can be used again in the future when she needs you. She can use you to create drama, jealousy, to hear her war stories, and tale of woe, to give her an ego boost and emotional support, to set up an "I dumped him and he still can't resist me" dynamic to once again USE against you in an "I'm better than you are" modality. It's nuts but that's how they survive. Dumping you takes the pressure off. It's this part of the relationship arc, the part that comes after the dump, that they work so diligently to construct, because keeping you around is building security for the future. Oh and she's like a chess master at the park keeping five games going simultaneously---- you aren't the only one she is "playing".
 
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