Getting jacked/ripped would eliminate 85% of the problems on this forum..

[HaleyBaron]

Okay, both of you Snag and Guy 69 are delusional.

 

[Snag87]

I've maybe had 7/8 in my whole life, my issue is turning my sex drive on.

Same issue, but likely to a lesser degree. It's funny, I often see guys boasting about having had sex with 100+ girls in a year or 1,500 in their lifetimes. My reaction is generally, "um, who wants to do that?"

I understand men are driven to procreate, but still, I'd like to have some emotional connection to my sex partners.

 

[soulforge]

I disagree; most men can achieve 6 pack abs if they're truly dedicated. The issue is mass. The majority of guys with 6 pack abs are lean and muscular.

On paper yes... However men over the age of 35, how many are walking around with 6 pack as... Not many!

 

[soulforge]

I disagree; most men can achieve 6 pack abs if they're truly dedicated. The issue is mass. The majority of guys with 6 pack abs are lean and muscular.

You are wrong. and clearly not living in reality.. Yes on paper every dude could achieve 6 pack abs.. However in the real world this isn't the case.

I clearly stated men over 35 or so... Men of that age & above, tend to settle of the big arms, chest, legs, shoulders etc.. However abs tend not to be high priority, as age 35 and over getting lean abs is very difficult.

You mean the minority of men can get them.

 

[Snag87]

You are wrong. and clearly not living in reality.. Yes on paper every dude could achieve 6 pack abs.. However in the real world this isn't the case.

I clearly stated men over 35 or so... Men of that age & above, tend to settle of the big arms, chest, legs, shoulders etc.. However abs tend not to be high priority, as age 35 and over getting lean abs is very difficult.

You mean the minority of men can get them.

Apologize, I missed the over 35. If you're over 35 and are prioritizing mass (big shoulders, etc) yea, precious few men will achieve 6 pack abs. If you're willing to sacrifice mass a much higher percentage could.

 

[soulforge]

I did the gym thing last year, got into pretty good shape but it had zero effect on my bodycount
which remains zero for over two years now. I do a physical job, typically walking about 9 miles a
day and stacking crates of heavy vegetables onto dollies. Pretty low body fat, no gut, leanly built
with no wobbly bits. 6ft tall. I have a footballer/swimmers build, shoulder length hair, symmetrical
face, a growing tattoo collection already in double figures, dress well, own multiple properties, play
musical instruments, ride a lairy motorcycle, have green eyes (one of the rarer eye colours) I'm tanned,
can sing really well, great sense of humour although it's pretty dark. I spend any nights off in my friends
c0cktail bar where I have oodles of social proof and can go behind the bar anytime I want and everybody
that works there treats me like a celebrity because I'm buddies with their boss. My issue is I absolutely
will NOT approach women, under any circumstances because ultimately I don't see sex as any kind of prize
It's all a complete waste of time. These women want Bradchad Thunderc0ck 8pack billionaire
Superman Grey, even if they are massive fat heffers with absolutely sod all to offer themselves.
I'm so disillusioned with it all that I have completely given up trying to be what they want.
It's like trying to ice skate up a hill.

I smashed 3 girls only two weeks ago... And I workout loads... So what's your point.

You ain't getting any vag.. You happen to workout & you haven't had any sex for years.

It's unlikely you would get sex, Wether you hit the gym or not.

I posted a picture of myself looking jacked on tinder on 3 days ago & my match rate has more than doubled.

Your an expetion.. The expetion doesn't make the rule.

The vast majority of men who workout on this forum, are posting nothing but positive results.

 

[Snag87]

I smashed 3 girls only two weeks ago... And I workout loads... So what's your point.

You ain't getting any vag.. You happen to workout & you haven't had any sex for years.

It's unlikely you would get sex, Wether you hit the gym or not.

I posted a picture of myself looking jacked on tinder on 3 days ago & my match rate has more than doubled.

Your an expetion.. The expetion doesn't make the rule.

The vast majority of men who workout on this forum, are posting nothing but positive results.

Really? Most men are stating in helps them attract women, not keep them.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I smashed 3 girls only two weeks ago... And I workout loads... So what's your point.

You ain't getting any vag.. You happen to workout & you haven't had any sex for years.

It's unlikely you would get sex, Wether you hit the gym or not.

I posted a picture of myself looking jacked on tinder on 3 days ago & my match rate has more than doubled.

Your an expetion.. The expetion doesn't make the rule.

The vast majority of men who workout on this forum, are posting nothing but positive results.

I realize it's weird asking for photos of girls...

But if you're willing to, I think we'd all be interested to see. Or as much as you're willing to do.

 

[lost_blackbird]

It's unlikely you would get sex, Wether you hit the gym or not.

Now we're getting to the crux of things. And why would that be?
Is it my age? The fact I don't have any kids? Lack of day to day friends for the most part?
Having an ex wife and therefore a failed marriage? Complete reluctance to approach?
Tinder was a waste of time, as was Bumble. Sure I got matches but nothing that led to
even so much as a date. Knowing what finicky creatures women are is it just something as
insignificant as a bad haircut? Maybe it's me not wanting a hosed out old bag with multiple
kids I didn't father. If you're going to make a statement like that I'd appreciate you putting
some clothes on your point, after all I'm here to learn.

 

[BMX]

No sir, the UK. The bulk of our women are fvcking awful.

Some of the worst 2.5 years of my life living in Cambs.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Some of the worst 2.5 years of my life living in Cambs.

 

[Robert28]

My success rate with women would skyrocket if I’d get some visible tattoos. I’m not even kidding. Last year I went to a huge Halloween party and I dressed up wearing a plain white t-shirt, jeans, bought some really nice fake tattoos and put one that was under my shirt coming up to my neck, and the rest I did on one arm. When I tell you I had more women come up to me and initiate conversation “so what are you supposed to be?” I’m not kidding.

 

[zekko]

My success rate with women would skyrocket if I’d get some visible tattoos. Last year I went to a huge Halloween party and I dressed up wearing a plain white t-shirt, jeans, bought some really nice fake tattoos and put one that was under my shirt coming up to my neck, and the rest I did on one arm. When I tell you I had more women come up to me and initiate conversation “so what are you supposed to be?” I’m not kidding.

That makes me a little sad, because I have absolutely zero interest in getting any tattoos, and I'm sure not getting any just to impress some random women. Take it or leave it, girls. But I could see them drawing more interest, because it's practically a form of peacocking. Men don't have a huge selection of accessories, so I suppose tattoos fill that void. It's also possible that the type of women who are attracted to tattoos are more aggressive and will initiate more conversations.

 

[Joseph Defranza]

I think the aesthetic bodybuilding movement (Zyzz, Jeff Seid, etc.) has proved that once you're shredded, girls are way easier. If you're jacked, the only thing that can really hurt your dating life is a lack of game.

 

[HaleyBaron]

That makes me a little sad, because I have absolutely zero interest in getting any tattoos, and I'm sure not getting any just to impress some random women. Take it or leave it, girls. But I could see them drawing more interest, because it's practically a form of peacocking. Men don't have a huge selection of accessories, so I suppose tattoos fill that void. It's also possible that the type of women who are attracted to tattoos are more aggressive and will initiate more conversations.

They are also trashier.

I think the aesthetic bodybuilding movement (Zyzz, Jeff Seid, etc.) has proved that once you're shredded, girls are way easier. If you're jacked, the only thing that can really hurt your dating life is a lack of game.

The people who say getting fit doesn't work never put in the work to prove it. And if they say they're fit, they're lying through their teeth.

 

[zekko]

The people who say getting fit doesn't work never put in the work to prove it. And if they say they're fit, they're lying through their teeth.

I don't think I can agree with this. If that were true, every guy who was in shape would have girls swarming all over him. Different guys have different issues with women, they may be socially awkward for instance, or have an unattractive face. Even the post before yours said lack of game can hurt you if you are fit.

 

[HaleyBaron]

I don't think I can agree with this. If that were true, every guy who was in shape would have girls swarming all over him. Different guys have different issues with women, they may be socially awkward for instance, or have an unattractive face. Even the post before yours said lack of game can hurt you if you are fit.

But being fit is still an in regardless. It doesn't have to be a guarantee. What matters is that now you're in the game. I can make the most awkward guy into a muscle head, and his chances will still go up. That is the point of this thread and point of being a man. Women are drawn to physically fit men.

 

[DonJuanjr]

This thread is like a relay race for members on this site to argue their points.

 

[Joseph Defranza]

They are also trashier.



The people who say getting fit doesn't work never put in the work to prove it. And if they say they're fit, they're lying through their teeth.

Agreed. They do what they think is just good enough, and then complain.

Getting jacked is key because when a woman looks at a man's shredded physique, it triggers a primal arousal in her brain. In many cases, it bypasses a lot of steps other men otherwise would have to take to get laid and removes some effort. Assuming these girls are giving you the typical choosing signals that jacked guys receive, all you have to do moving forward is not be a weirdo and have some game and you'll be okay. Look at girls' reactions to the physiques of aesthetic bodybuilders on youtube. They're literally incapable of containing their excitement/arousal.

The guys of the aesthetic movement have done a great job of proving to the world how easy gaming girls can be if you satisfy the Alpha-seed side of hypergamy.
And no, you don't have to be yoked like that year-round. Girls react the same to Jon Bernthal's physique and his body is nowhere close to the level Zyzz, Jeff Seid, or Jon Skywalker... he pretty much just looks like an above-average, in-shape soldier. Just put in some work to the gym and you guys will be fine

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I don't think I can agree with this. If that were true, every guy who was in shape would have girls swarming all over him. Different guys have different issues with women, they may be socially awkward for instance, or have an unattractive face. Even the post before yours said lack of game can hurt you if you are fit.

Just as often...

Getting jacked can make a guy look very insecure. Most gym rats that I see hang out with each other. Some may be with girls, but not any more than skinnier guys who are still in shape.

Heck, I've even seen obese broke guys with attractive girls because they gave off a dominant vibe that might scare lots of other guys.

People on this forum are way too black and white thinking.