Getting girls when on the spectrum

[GoodMan32]

On an old incel board, it is clear that when you pay someone for sex then they are not willing (ie out of genuine interest) to have sex. The definition is sex with a willing partner. If you pay for it, blackmail, rape, etc... then its no longer willing. There is also the possibility of trafficing, the girl being molested at a young age, etc.... Most.of these women are not normal women that woke up one morning and decided to do that. Since its just impossible to know the history of every escort you deal with, even on that level, its a challenge to really establish willingness.

I agree escorts aren't willing to bang the guy out of genuine desire.

Calling an escort an unwilling partner, I take issue with. I recall a viral tweet from a feminist where she said "When you buy an escort, you're not paying for consent. You're paying in lieu of consent. Prostitution=rape."

For obvious reasons, I don't like hearing clients get called rapists.

Is paying an escort for sex really a whole lot different than a civvie banging you because you bought her dinner? If a civvie is only willing to bang a guy if he buys her dinner, can you really call it genuine desire?

As for trafficking, it's true some escorts are being trafficked. It's next to impossible for the client to be aware. So I'd still say the client is doing nothing wrong.

 

[corrector]

I agree escorts aren't willing to bang the guy out of genuine desire.

Calling an escort an unwilling partner, I take issue with. I recall a viral tweet from a feminist where she said "When you buy an escort, you're not paying for consent. You're paying in lieu of consent. Prostitution=rape."

For obvious reasons, I don't like hearing clients get called rapists.

Is paying an escort for sex really a whole lot different than a civvie banging you because you bought her dinner? If a civvie is only willing to bang a guy if he buys her dinner, can you really call it genuine desire?

As for trafficking, it's true some escorts are being trafficked. It's next to impossible for the client to be aware. So I'd still say the client is doing nothing wrong.

Replied by DM.

 

[SW15]

Is paying an escort for sex really a whole lot different than a civvie banging you because you bought her dinner?

That's the difference between paying for sex directly and paying for sex indirectly. Either way, you're paying for sex.

I'd say I myself straddle the line between escortcel and MGTOW. Even though I've pulled civvies, I have such a hard time pulling civvies (and it's been ages since I last pulled one)

I'm on the spectrum.

I first became sexually active in my early 20s. I'm currently in my 30s. I've been with 26 women.

Of the 26 partners, 17 have been escorts.

Of the 9 free women I've been with, I met 7 online.

This means if it weren't for hookup websites and escorts, I only would have had 2 partners (both of which were one and dones).

Let that sink in. I, a man in my 30s, only would have had sex a grand total of 2 times if it weren't for escorts and hookup websites.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, unfortunately the odds are really stacked against you when you're on the spectrum. And I'm a good-looking guy with a high-functioning case. Guys with worse looks and/or a more severe case of autism spectrum disorder have it even worse than me when it comes to getting cooch.

You're definitely a MGTOW. An incel does not have a lifetime partner count of 26. Your lifetime partner count of 26 is higher than the typical man's lifetime partner count. A lifetime partner count of 26 would likely put you in the 80th percentile or higher of men in terms of number of partners.

Tell Us How Many People You’ve Slept With. We’ll Tell You if That’s a Lot.

You, dear reader, are a human being. And as a human being, you are naturally curious, a little bit self-conscious, and maybe even competitive about sex ...

www.slate.com

In terms of sex frequency, you are likely far below the 80th percentile.

 

[corrector]

That's the difference between paying for sex directly and paying for sex indirectly. Either way, you're paying for sex.





You're definitely a MGTOW. An incel does not have a lifetime partner count of 26. Your lifetime partner count of 26 is higher than the typical man's lifetime partner count. A lifetime partner count of 26 would likely put you in the 80th percentile or higher of men in terms of number of partners.

Tell Us How Many People You’ve Slept With. We’ll Tell You if That’s a Lot.

You, dear reader, are a human being. And as a human being, you are naturally curious, a little bit self-conscious, and maybe even competitive about sex ...

www.slate.com

In terms of sex frequency, you are likely far below the 80th percentile.

Now I get it. You are a fraud. Just admit it, probably 99% of your lays were from prostitutes and you added it to your lifestime notch count.
No wonder you have so much time to post on here. This really is your life.

Come to think of it, has this guy ever given receipts on anything? Just walls of posts.

 

[logicallefty]

I haven't read through this thread. I know one thing is for sure, that the majority of replies to the OP will be legit and valid because we have legit and valid men on this forum. With that said, my reply to the OP is that yes, absolutely, men on the spectrum can succeeded with women.

If I could give one piece of advice to men on the spectrum in getting women, it would be for the man not to push too hard. Be yourself, then pull back. Then be yourself again, then disappear... I saw my former stepson. He was on the spectrum. At 21 he and I went to bars together a lot. He always had women all over him. He was very confident in how he initially presented himself. And with me as his wing I always talked him up so much. Women after him would often give me more attention than him. But I always tried to put the focus back on him. After all, I was married to his mother at the time and never wanted to be more than his wing man. But yes, women were attracted to him big time. His mistake in killing said attraction was being TOO MUCH.. He gave off a "desperate" vibe that I could never get him out of. I think if he would have taken more advantage of casual talking to multiple women in one night, rather than laser focused attention on one woman and appearing desperate. Then never letting up and never recognizing the other opportunities around him, he would have done much better.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Disagree.

26 lifetime at what age 22? I know several men that are regular guys with 4x that count at age 30.

A lifetime partner count of 26 would likely put you in the 80th percentile or higher of men in terms of number of partners.

 

[corrector]

Disagree.

26 lifetime at what age 22? I know several men that are regular guys with 4x that count at age 30.

You agree then that escorts count as a notch? I am not sure if everyone is under some bizzare spell, but at least last decade or so talking like that here would be anathama. Its only 9 women he dealt with that were unpaid. The rest were escorts.

If you are going to say that me, buying a $70 escort is a notch count and endorse that then you are legitimizing this.

Re-read @SW15 post again. He went with 9 women, and 17 prostitutes and that is how he arrived at 26 notch counts. Are we now going to post lay reports with how we managed to set up a prostitute meeting and add that to the seduction narrative cannon? Because that is exactly what will happen when you open that pandoras box. In which case, I could probably notch count more women then you can if I can handle the spiritual attacks!

 

[characternote]

I guess the answer is 'yes'.

On a certain forum I won't mention there's a guy who is on the spectrum who has posted a lot of receipts. He's called 'amnesia'. I'm sure some of you know who i'm talking about lol. He's got like a 250 slay count of fairly hot girls mostly. And he's autistic and weird lol. But due to being very good looking, he's able to just get girls to come straight to his place from tinder, adn even if they realise he 's weird, they're still down to bang. In fact, that forum has quite a few similar posters who get laid lots but are supposedly on the spectrum

When I think about it, most blackpill forums are really just like the old goodlookingloser forum. (who again posted way more reciepts and stuff than any other forum. Many posters showing themselves banging tonnes of new girls each week with video footage and all sorts lol). People on PUA forums look down on blackpill subs but not on goodlookingloser when really they were the same. The goodlookingloser guys never really mentioned 'game'. It was all about get as good looking as you can and hit on girls (however you want as 'skill' is kind of irrelevant and it's a numbers game)

 

[corrector]

Translation, $25-50k if you went with prostitutes. 250 * $100/$200. If you cheap out then it could be $15k.

 

[GoodMan32]

That's the difference between paying for sex directly and paying for sex indirectly. Either way, you're paying for sex.





You're definitely a MGTOW. An incel does not have a lifetime partner count of 26. Your lifetime partner count of 26 is higher than the typical man's lifetime partner count. A lifetime partner count of 26 would likely put you in the 80th percentile or higher of men in terms of number of partners.

Tell Us How Many People You’ve Slept With. We’ll Tell You if That’s a Lot.

You, dear reader, are a human being. And as a human being, you are naturally curious, a little bit self-conscious, and maybe even competitive about sex ...

www.slate.com

In terms of sex frequency, you are likely far below the 80th percentile.

It's crucial to point out the fact I amassed the body count of 26 mainly through escorts.

Yeah, I know there are plenty of guys who pay for sex indirectly. However, getting sex through indirect payment is harder than getting sex through direct payment (thus the guys who pay for sex indirectly are still better at getting a woman than I am, even if their body count is lower)

 

[GoodMan32]

Translation, $25-50k if you went with prostitutes. 250 * $100/$200. If you cheap out then it could be $15k.

One time on a different internet platform, a guy wanted to know how much I spend on escorts. So I checked my bank statements. I had withdrawn $3 thousand in the past year. Escorts are pretty much the only thing I pay cash for. Suffice to say, I spend 3k on escorts in the typical year.

 

[GoodMan32]

Disagree.

26 lifetime at what age 22? I know several men that are regular guys with 4x that count at age 30.

I'm the guy with the body count of 26. I'm in my early 30s. When I was 22, my body count was 6.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

You agree then that escorts count as a notch?

No.
The reason is that a notch (to me) is an indicator of a man's desirability and seduction abilities. When you're buying access to a vagina for a period of time, there is no skill - or frankly, anything required of you except the ability to pay.

Frankly, I do not understand why this is even up for discussion and much less being discussed on a forum dedicated to making men BETTER at seduction. Being a John does not make you better at seduction.

 

[corrector]

No.

Noted, for the record


@SW15 @GoodMan32 what do you have to say about this?

 

[GoodMan32]

Noted, for the record


@SW15 @GoodMan32 what do you have to say about this?

Same thing I told you in DM about the topic.

Escorts count as a notch (in my opinion). However, it's crucial to point out the fact they were escorts. A guy who has attained a body count of 26 (me) primarily through escorts isn't the player he might sound like.

 

[Cowboy-Cheems]

This thread seems to have derailed into an escort argument. I wonder if the OP actually learned anything from this thread.

@DarkForU Has your game improved any during the last few weeks?

 

[GoodMan32]

This thread seems to have derailed into an escort argument. I wonder if the OP actually learned anything from this thread.

@DarkForU Has your game improved any during the last few weeks?

Escorts are one of the most realistic ways for a guy on the spectrum to get laid.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

Escorts are one of the most realistic ways for a guy on the spectrum to get laid.

For a lot of guys on the spectrum it may be the only way they can. At least that's the impression I get

 

[corrector]

Escorts are one of the most realistic ways for a guy on the spectrum to get laid.

Unfortunately, not for a religious on the spectrum.

 

[Cowboy-Cheems]

There is lots of defeatist-minded posting in here. I am not sure why, since there are plenty of dedicated incel discussion boards available on the internet. This is a forum for discussing getting better at socializing, not throwing up one's hands in surrender (Or so I thought, anyway.)

There is no magical 10 step plan to either curing one's autism or getting laid, but high-functioning autism is not an impenetrable barrier. Convicts, drug-addicts, room-temperature IQ morons, complete slobs, and more manage to get laid in this hypergamic environment . The notion that a well-groomed, fit guy that happens to be diagnosed as "on the spectrum" is forever doomed to be an incel is just one of several cheap excuses for lack of success.