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We_ArE_VeNOM

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How many years of training do you have?
0 years.

Sure, I've had spurts over the years, but nothing ever consistent.

As of now, 3 months of consistent weight lifting and unless I am physically unable to keep it going, there is no stopping me now.
 

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I am around 6ft-6ft 1, used to do the bulking/lift heavy and got too fat and hated it.
You are the only guy I heard of who lifted weights and got fat.

Slimmed down to 14-15% BF, look good enough to be complimented by strangers
And still afraid to cold approach.

SMH.

If you look that good and strangers compliment you often (like me), and women give you choosing signals, then you shouldn't be afraid to cold approach women.

Tsk, tsk.

Some of us on here are full of crap, that's what it is.
 

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0 years.

Sure, I've had spurts over the years, but nothing ever consistent.

As of now, 3 months of consistent weight lifting and unless I am physically unable to keep it going, there is no stopping me now.
No offense, but after 3 months of gym, saying you get compliments left and right, i can't take you seriously. Gym has nothing to do here. Either you ate a healthy diet along the and look good/ripped, either you are massive and you catch people's eye. But the gym has nothing to do with it. Why not post a picture of yourself? We are all curious what kind of phisique atracts those compliments for you.
 

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No offense, but after 3 months of gym, saying you get compliments left and right, i can't take you seriously. Gym has nothing to do here. Either you ate a healthy diet along the and look good/ripped, either you are massive and you catch people's eye. But the gym has nothing to do with it. Why not post a picture of yourself? We are all curious what kind of phisique atracts those compliments for you.
Ok, don't believe me.

No worries.

I will continue doing what I do.
 

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This sums it up so well. Lifting weights and working out never changes the face
I don't quite agree with this. If you do neck-specific exercises, you'd be surprised by the impact that can have on facial structure over time. I literally incorporate what are basically neck-crunches into my workout plan (I don't mind looking stupid with a 25 or 35lb plate on my forehead). Although I do it with the intention of helping counterbalance my slight scoliosis rather than altering the face.
 

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I do not know.

Im sure that clinically speaking, I am obese.

I carry my weight well on my 6'3 frame along with dedicated, consistent weight lifting.

This is not me telling myself this.

This is what I get told in some form or fashion on a daily basis.
Yo, if you are 6'3" and 300 pounds you are fat. I don't care how much you lift or how long you've been going to the gym, you are fat. I'm 6'4" and around 235 and one of the fittest guys at any gym I'll go to as a natural who never touched steroids. You literally have about 60 pounds on me, there is absolutely no way that you are not obese. You probably hold it relatively well though because you have above average muscle mass. You could probably get down to 250 and still have weight to lose.

What are some of your fitness/lifting numbers that you do regularly, I'm not talking one rep max stuff. Are you able to do a chinup/pullup? Are you able to go hiking or is it too painful on your body or do you struggle with breathing?

To put this into perspective, I have a resting heart rate in the low 50s, as I'm very aerobically fit. I also am doing volume work on chin ups with an extra 35 pounds added to my bodyweight and 70 pounds added with dips. I'm doing volume work on sled pulls for 25 yards with 550 pounds, etc.
 
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This sums it up so well. Lifting weights and working out never changes the face
That's not necessarily true. Your face tends to look better/more attractive when you are leaner compared to when you have a higher body fat percentage. You'll have a more defined jawline, cheekbones, etc. You'll also find that when you are fit and active you generally eat better and are overall healthier, which means your skin will look healthier as well. I don't really know how to explain this one but you probably understand what I'm describing here, people that are overall healthier tend to have a glow to them.

Granted, actual face shape is determined by genetics but body fat definitely plays a role. Being excessively lean does not look good either though.
 

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Yo, if you are 6'3" and 300 pounds you are fat. I don't care how much you lift or how you've been going to the gym, you are fat.

I'm 6'4" and around 235 and one of the fittest guys at any gym I'll go to as a natural who never touched steroids. You literally have about 60 pounds on me, there is absolutely no way that you are not obese. You probably hold it relatively well though because you have above-average muscle mass. You could probably get down to 250 and still have weight to lose.
A couple of things here..

First off, we all (should) know; muscle weighs more than fat.

There is nothing wrong with being overweight, just as long as it is the right excess of weight.

The obesity problem we have in America (almost 42%) is not because people are walking around with excess muscle...it is because they are walking around with excess fat...you know, the bad stuff...the stuff that can kill you.

And like I said, more than likely, I am clinically obese (that's what the doctors say) but I do not LOOK like it and I hold it well.

It is a FACT that weight training burns fat and builds muscle (along with proper nutrition), so the excess fat that I'm holding is in the process of getting burned off.

Second, you and the doctors can call it fat or obese, but the compliments I get on a day-to-day basis says otherwise.

The compliments I receive speak for themselves, and it is not because I am 6'3 guy lugging around a bunch of fat.

It is because I put in the work and my body is proof of it.

When you do great things, people will take notice and tell you about it.

What are some of your fitness/lifting numbers that you do regularly
I do all upper body (neglectful of abs).

4 sets of 12 on everything.

6 muscle groups.

1. Chest
2. Shoulders
3. Biceps
4. Triceps
5. Back
6. Trapezius

For example...today was.

A. Chest
B. Shoulders
C. Trapezius

I would normally skip a day in between. So typically, I wouldn't be going to the gym tomorrow because I went today...but I plan on going tomorrow and resting on Tuesday.

So tomorrow will be..

A. Biceps
B. Triceps
C. Back

I do 3 to 4 exercises for each muscle group.

Lifting heavy.

, I'm not talking one rep max stuff.
Me either.

I am on a journey towards 315 on the bench press.

I worked my way up to 285 lbs, which I rep 12x for the first set.

The second set (as of today), I was able to rep 9x until I reached muscle failure.

Those 9x is actually an increase from the 7x I was able to do the last time.

It isn't until I am able to do two FULL sets of 12x that I will increase the weight by 10lbs, which will put me at 295lbs.

When I graduate to 295 lbs, I will attempt to hit 315 at least once...even though I can probably hit it once now.

1% (or less) of the population can hit 315 once.

So I will be among very small company.

Actually, I just read an article that if you can rep 225 lbs 11-13 times, then you should be able to hit 315 once.

225 is light weight at this point, considering I can hit 285 twelve times.

Are you able to do a chinup/pullup?
I don't rock with pullups.

Are you able to go hiking or is it too painful on your body or do you struggle with breathing?
I don't rock with cardio.

To put this into perspective, I have a resting heart rate in the low 50s, as I'm very aerobically fit. I also am doing volume work on chin ups with an extra 35 pounds added to my bodyweight and 70 pounds added with dips. I'm doing volume work on sled pulls for 25 yards with 550 pounds, etc.
That is good for you, and what your goals are.
 

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A couple of things here..

First off, we all (should) know; muscle weighs more than fat.

There is nothing wrong with being overweight, just as long as it is the right excess of weight.

The obesity problem we have in America (almost 42%) is not because people are walking around with excess muscle...it is because they are walking around with excess fat...you know, the bad stuff...the stuff that can kill you.

And like I said, more than likely, I am clinically obese (that's what the doctors say) but I do not LOOK like it and I hold it well.

It is a FACT that weight training burns fat and builds muscle (along with proper nutrition), so the excess fat that I'm holding is in the process of getting burned off.

Second, you and the doctors can call it fat or obese, but the compliments I get on a day-to-day basis says otherwise.

The compliments I receive speak for themselves, and it is not because I am 6'3 guy lugging around a bunch of fat.

It is because I put in the work and my body is proof of it.

When you do great things, people will take notice and tell you about it.



I do all upper body (neglectful of abs).

4 sets of 12 on everything.

6 muscle groups.

1. Chest
2. Shoulders
3. Biceps
4. Triceps
5. Back
6. Trapezius

For example...today was.

A. Chest
B. Shoulders
C. Trapezius

I would normally skip a day in between. So typically, I wouldn't be going to the gym tomorrow because I went today...but I plan on going tomorrow and resting on Tuesday.

So tomorrow will be..

A. Biceps
B. Triceps
C. Back

I do 3 to 4 exercises for each muscle group.

Lifting heavy.



Me either.

I am on a journey towards 315 on the bench press.

I worked my way up to 285 lbs, which I rep 12x for the first set.

The second set (as of today), I was able to rep 9x until I reached muscle failure.

Those 9x is actually an increase from the 7x I was able to do the last time.

It isn't until I am able to do two FULL sets of 12x that I will increase the weight by 10lbs, which will put me at 295lbs.

When I graduate to 295 lbs, I will attempt to hit 315 at least once...even though I can probably hit it once now.

1% (or less) of the population can hit 315 once.

So I will be among very small company.

Actually, I just read an article that if you can rep 225 lbs 11-13 times, then you should be able to hit 315 once.

225 is light weight at this point, considering I can hit 285 twelve times.



I don't rock with pullups.



I don't rock with cardio.



That is good for you, and what your goals are.
Ok, so you are a fat guy that lifts. You are still obese, I see this **** all the time at the gym and it's not impressive. You are OUT of shape and would be better off losing weight. If you maintain this you are putting yourself at risk for early death and an entire host of various diseases.

You don't have excess muscle, in fact you probably don't even have much more than most guys that lift.
 

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One can lift weights well and be fat. I was for a few years. My diet was shyt but I hit the gym regularly. So I had muscle but also gut fat and fat about the organs. Wasn't until I chose a more balanced and natural diet that the fat started to burn off (along with some muscle).

Point is I was kidding myself that it would all convert to muscle in time. I couldn't out lift a bad diet.
 

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I'm 6'4" and around 235 and one of the fittest guys at any gym I'll go to as a natural who never touched steroids.
There are professional athletes who have been around 6'4" and 230-235 lbs who have used steroids. It's impressive that you are hitting that without steroids.

It is also impressive that you keep an intense fitness routine without regular vaginal access. A lot of men who aren't getting vagina regularly give up and check out of mainstream culture.
 
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Ok, so you are a fat guy that lifts. You are still obese, I see this **** all the time at the gym and it's not impressive. You are OUT of shape and would be better off losing weight. If you maintain this you are putting yourself at risk for early death and an entire host of various diseases.

You don't have excess muscle, in fact you probably don't even have much more than most guys that lift.
So instead of addressing a third of what I said, you ignored it all just to call me fat.

Tsk, tsk.

The fact of the matter is this, I probably receive more compliments on my physique in a week than you've received in your entire life.

No bullsh!t.

I would not trade my body for yours, no matter how healthy you are or how unhealthy you believe I am.

I would not trade my workout regimen for yours, because I doubt your workout regimen will have people staring at me as they pass by in their cars as I walk boldly down the street.

Based on the attention that I've been receiving, I do not need any advise from you or any slightest recommendation...because nothing you've accomplished at the gym or anything you've done over the course of your little fitness journey is getting you anywhere near what I've been getting and will continue to get.
 

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Didn’t read the thread but a few years ago I went heavy into gym and diet. Got myself to 180lbs with 10% body fat. Had a personal trainer help me. Anyhow was a virgin and remained so. Meanwhile my skinny brother gets hot chicks. So I don’t buy the narrative
 

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Didn’t read the thread but a few years ago I went heavy into gym and diet. Got myself to 180lbs with 10% body fat. Had a personal trainer help me. Anyhow was a virgin and remained so. Meanwhile my skinny brother gets hot chicks. So I don’t buy the narrative
Some of you guys are just doomed to be failures in life, apparently.

Nothing I can do about that.

To hell with the gym, just be a skinny little twig like your brother then.
 

If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.

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