Get Your Asses To the Gym!!!

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Totally.

That’s a fair question.

Though I’m married, I still like discussing sexual dynamics. It’s simply an area of interest.

Fair enough.

I’m also a reformed incel, a self-defeating mentalcel specifically. My history is as follows: incel—> a few girlfriends —> incel—> manwhoring —> married.

The kind of evolution that would make Charles Darwin proud.

 

[Gamisch]

I agree 100.


Someone just said some men will be able to pull and do fine without a good body. Just like some men can pull while being broke, while living off women or even from jail .

All less than favorable circumstances. Still you are stealing from yourself, from your own true potential. A man who pull without money, should be eager to knkw what's it like to do it with money. A man without muscles should try game WITH a ripped physique.

The funny thing is that hitting the gym is the very first thing we'll have to do without getting any rewards upfront. But if you manage to hit the gym religiously, keep going , the next time when you're taking your shirt off in front of a woman ...it WILL make all the difference .

The gym is mandatory. Just like money and game.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

I've been lifting and running since college. Even when I went through unhealthy phases of eating (read: got fat) it at least kept me with some semblance of a normal to attractive body. It's just become habit for me though, I don't need motivation, I just go and it's kind of a sanctuary for me. In fact I have to be careful not to let my thoughts drift or I forget what set I'm on. Girls sometimes smile and talk to me but I'm not even dialed in to that when I'm there, it's me time.

Am in my late 40s now and the gym has kept me young and spry.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

So you're working out to stay healthy, not to 'build a muscular physique for the babes'.

Like I said, Exercise is good. And if you enjoy working out, by all means keep working out. Just regular exercise will set you apart from the masses who zonk out for the television with a bag of Cheetos.

Decent shape is more than enough to impress women with your physique. If you happen to have a muscular body, great, but don't invest too much time sculpting your physique if you're doing it to impress the ladies, because it's not as important as just being a healthy man.

100%. Anything I do is for me first. If women like it that's great. I just like the way I feel and look better. I respect guys who bodybuild if it's their passion of course. The thing is women will respect a guy who has a passion or hobbies and they can vary. BUT it's fair to say that exercise affects the "looks" component of attraction so it's double edged. At the same time ripped dudes still need to learn social skills and how to talk to women.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

You can still add considerable size, but not with what you mentioned.

“Going for a more cut look” will not alter your body much as a goal without considerable muscle mass. You’ll simply be a leaner version of yourself. And perhaps some women will like that. But you will not get noticed while clothed. To get considerably noticed, you need to have enough muscle mass that it’s evident while wearing form fitting pants and shirts. Even a muscular man can be noticed in a baggy shirt because of how it falls on his body."

Venom which one of yas is lying to me? You said it will help but Manure Spherian is disagreeing.

Consider the picture below..

Bruce Lee standing next to Bolo Yeung.

One has a lean muscular physique, and the other has a bulky muscular physique.

Of the two, which one do you think will fill out a shirt more?

Bolo Yueng.

In my experience, my bulky frame is what gets me the ACC (Appearance, Confidence, Compliments).

Since that is what's been working for me, I will only recommend what's been proven to work for me.

However, you can't go wrong with the lean muscular look either.

Outside of his martial arts prowest, Bruce Lee has been known to be the prototype for the lean, muscular look.

He was reowned for his emphasis on health, fitness, and diet.

But for what gets me the ICC, I'm going with the Bolo Yueng look.

So, I recommend going for bulk.

But I am not gonna sh!t on the guy going for the lean/ripped look because if you approach a woman with a Bruce Lee physique wearing a wife beater tank top, I'm sure she will find you attractive.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Consider the picture below..

Bruce Lee standing next to Bolo Yeung.

One has a lean muscular physique, and the other has a bulky muscular physique.

Of the two, which one do you think will fill out a shirt more?

Bolo Yueng.

In my experience, my bulky frame is what gets me the ACC (Appearance, Confidence, Compliments).

Since that is what's been working for me, I will only recommend what's been proven to work for me.

However, you can't go wrong with the lean muscular look either.

Outside of his martial arts prowest, Bruce Lee has been known to be the prototype for the lean, muscular look.

He was reowned for his emphasis on health, fitness, and diet.

But for what gets me the ICC, I'm going with the Bolo Yueng look.

So, I recommend going for bulk.

But I am not gonna sh!t on the guy going for the lean/ripped look because if you approach a woman with a Bruce Lee physique wearing a wife beater tank top, I'm sure she will find you attractive.



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Right. Hence I explained that an aggressive cut is unwise for a staring goal. One can bulk while being leanish and then aggressively cut.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I'm a martial artist

What style(s)?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Consider the picture below..

Bruce Lee standing next to Bolo Yeung.

One has a lean muscular physique, and the other has a bulky muscular physique.

Of the two, which one do you think will fill out a shirt more?

Bolo Yueng.

In my experience, my bulky frame is what gets me the ACC (Appearance, Confidence, Compliments).

Since that is what's been working for me, I will only recommend what's been proven to work for me.

However, you can't go wrong with the lean muscular look either.

Outside of his martial arts prowest, Bruce Lee has been known to be the prototype for the lean, muscular look.

He was reowned for his emphasis on health, fitness, and diet.

But for what gets me the ICC, I'm going with the Bolo Yueng look.

So, I recommend going for bulk.

But I am not gonna sh!t on the guy going for the lean/ripped look because if you approach a woman with a Bruce Lee physique wearing a wife beater tank top, I'm sure she will find you attractive.



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The difference between lean and muscular is often times the amount of food one eats. It takes energy to build muscle and unless you are providing it to the body regularly while working out you are going to end up lean.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Venom do you feel strongly that I will gain more confidence and women will notice me a little more if I do pushups, dumbbell curls for biceps and do some planks/situps.

Not really. Those are not what someone who is interested in building muscle would ever do. At least not as their entire workout. Maybe as minor parts of a workout.

Planks are great but they aren't going to really build muscle themselves.

Pushups are OK but again, you are limited by your own bodyweight which puts a cap on the amount of muscle you can build. You are also putting yourself at risk for shoulder injuries because you'll need to do very high rep counts for it to make any real difference. And the shoulder is the one place on the body you should try to protect from injury at all costs or you will be sorry.

DB Curls are meh...do chin ups(weighted preferably)for biceps, it's the best bicep exercise there is.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Venom do you feel strongly that I will gain more confidence and women will notice me a little more if I do pushups, dumbbell curls for biceps and do some planks/situps.

I feel strongly that building bulk (muscle mass) is superior over lean muscle toning.

If you do it right and dependent upon the shirt you wear, you will get noticed.

But not as much as bulking.

Now take that answer and apply it to whatever route you want to take.

Earlier, a delivery driver that I never seen before made a delivery to my store.

First thing he asked me was; how much do I bench press.

That was followed by a 15 minute conversation on weightlifting.

Too many examples of this.

My advice; go for bulk for maximum results.

 

[savi0r]

@We_ArE_VeNOM can you put a picture of yourself? I am terribly curious of your phisique.

 

[Gamisch]

Depends what type of women you're looking for, but I'd say:
Exercise is mandatory, because without exercise you become unhealthy.
If you need money to draw a woman, you're likely to end up with a gold digger who will leave you when the money runs out.
And game... well, it's a good thing to understand sexual dynamics and have the confidence to put yourself out there.

I kinda agree.

The man whose out of the game will hardly ever be a man with game money and muscles. One could argue that the man who is successful due to these factors will embrace and thus nurture these things where the unsuccessful man wont have the motivation to get busy. Its a chicken /egg dilemma.

Generally most men will benefit from these things. If you're strong and confident enough to roll without these things you are an outlier.

If any man feels stuck, but yet wants to play the game with better results, gym,money and game is his way to go.

 

[CornbreadFed]

My advice; go for bulk for maximum results.

disagree fully lol

 

[Deranged]

Venom, I'm not trying to undermine your post here. There's a lot of good points and the general idea of get ur azz to the gym is just plain good advice. But something just doesn't add up. Lets say you're a massive 220 lean muscle @ 300 lbs thats 36% body fat. That's pushing Corrector lvl of bodyfat. Lets say you were at 20% bodyfat, a generally accepted aesthetic level that would garnering the attention you're claiming(good muscle definition, abs starting to show). That would put you at 250lbs of lean muscle, that's Mr.Olympia levels of muscle mass here were talking. So you're either a fat fvck who's coping hard or a humble mass monster. Or maybe I'm way off in my estimates.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

@We_ArE_VeNOM can you put a picture of yourself? I am terribly curious of your phisique.

Sure, I could.

But I'm not.

Just know I'm not here to lie or bullsh!t.

Everything I say is 100% true, straight down the middle.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

disagree fully lol

Yeah, just like you disagree fully with the concept of cold approaching.

You and I are on different ends of the spectrum when it comes to these topics.

It ain't no thang though.

Just sharing my experiences and offering advice based upon it.

If you are fuking wit it, then fuk wit it.

If not, continue to get it how you get it.

I say all this as I am in route to the gym.

Lil sh!t stopping, big sh!t poppin.

 

[BadBoy89]

- If you are middle aged,
- very muscular,
- even just moderately attractive (you don’t need to be a Chad),
- carry yourself
- speak with poise and confidence,

you will attract many women

Thats a lot of things to do to attract a woman.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Venom, I'm not trying to undermine your post here. There's a lot of good points and the general idea of get ur azz to the gym is just plain good advice. But something just doesn't add up. Lets say you're a massive 220 lean muscle @ 300 lbs thats 36% body fat. That's pushing Corrector lvl of bodyfat. Lets say you were at 20% bodyfat, a generally accepted aesthetic level that would garnering the attention you're claiming(good muscle definition, abs starting to show). That would put you at 250lbs of lean muscle, that's Mr.Olympia levels of muscle mass here were talking. So you're either a fat fvck who's coping hard or a humble mass monster. Or maybe I'm way off in my estimates.

My experiences are my experiences.

No one can take away my experiences.

Doesn't matter what theories you have or how you view reality...because at the end of the day, your theories don't trump my own personal testimony.

And I say this respectfully, because just like guys have their theories about how cold approaching isn't effective and why men shouldn't do it..meanwhile, I was out there having success with it.

Do their theories or preconceived notions trump my actual successes? No.

To all the naysayers, keep thinking I'm bullsh!tting and don't bulk up.

Meanwhile, I will continue doing what I do and getting what I've been getting (not necessarily talking to you, but generally speaking).

 

[Manure Spherian]

Thats a lot of things to do to attract a woman.

It is not that difficult if one is modestly attractive and gregarious.

I’m hanging in my car now. A woman in the grocery store sparked up a conversation with me out of the blue five minutes ago while I was shopping. If I were single I likely would’ve kept it going.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

If any man feels stuck, but yet wants to play the game with better results, gym,money and game is his way to go.

I was with you until you said money.

I just think money and hypergamy is mad overrated.