George Sodini/LA Fitness murderer internet diary

[CTApprentice]

http://georgesodini.com/20090804.htm

George Sodini
Age 48.
DOB 9/30/1960
DOD 8/4/2009
5-10, 155 lbs.
Never married.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania USA
Me

Why do this?? To young girls? Just read below. I kept a running log that includes my thoughts and actions, after I saw this project was going to drag on.

November 5, 2008:
Planned to do this in the summer but figure to stick around to see the election outcome. This particular one got so much attention and I was just curious. Not like I give a flying fcuk who won, since this exit plan was already planned. Good luck to Obama! He will be successful. The liberal media LOVES him. Amerika has chosen The Black Man. Good! In light of this I got ideas outside of Obama's plans for the economy and such. Here it is: Every black man should get a young white girl hoe to hone up on. Kinda a reverse indentured servitude thing. Long ago, many a older white male landowner had a young Negro wench girl for his desires. Bout' time tables are turned on that ****. Besides, dem young white hoez dig da bruthrs! LOL. More so than they dig the white dudes! Every daddy know when he sends his little girl to college, she be bangin a bruthr real good. I saw it. "Not my little girl", daddy says! (Yeah right!!) Black dudes have thier choice of best white hoez. You do the math, there are enough young white so all the brothers can each have one for 3 or 6 months or so.

December 22, 2008:
Time is moving along. Planned to have this done already. I will just keep a running log here as time passes. Many of the young girls here look so beautiful as to not be human, very edible. After joining this gym, started lifting weights and like it. Much info about weight programs, diet etc on the web. Or anything for that matter. Instead of TV I can Google for hours to relax. TV and most movies are dull.

December 24, 2008:
Moving into Christmas again. No girlfriend since 1984, last Christmas with Pam was in 1983. Who knows why. I am not ugly or too weird. No sex since July 1990 either (I was 29). No ****! Over eighteen years ago. And did it maybe only 50-75 times in my life. Getting to think that a woman now would just, uh, get in the way of things. Isolated. I have extra money and enjoy traveling, too, wtih my 25-30 days of vacation. LA was the best! But going alone is not too fun. Invited to a party on Christmas day tomorrow. Seems about 15-25 people will actually show. I like her parties; I can meet new people and talk. Got the next 8 days off. I should have exit plan done and practiced by then. I know nothing will change, no matter how hard I try or what goals I set.

December 28, 2008:
Glad I stayed around. All these days off are great. I will shoot for Tuesday, January 6, 2009, at maybe 8:15. I have list of to-do items to make.

December 29, 2008:
Just got back from tanning, been doing this for a while. No gym today, my elbow is sore again. I actually look good. I dress good, am clean-shaven, bathe, touch of cologne - yet 30 million women rejected me - over an 18 or 25-year period. That is how I see it. Thirty million is my rough guesstimate of how many desirable single women there are. A man needs a woman for confidence. He gets a boost on the job, career, with other men, and everywhere else when he knows inside he has someone to spend the night with and who is also a friend. This type of life I see is a closed world with me specifically and totally excluded. Every other guy does this successfully to a degree. Flying solo for many years is a destroyer. Yet many people say I am easy to get along with, etc. Looking back, I owe nothing to desirable females who ask for anything, except for basic courtesy - usually. Looking back over everything, what bothers me most is the inability to work towards whatever change I choose.

December 30, 2008:
While driving I radio surfed to a talk show. The caller was a 30ish black man who was describing the despair in certain black communities. According to him, life is cheap there because you are going to die anyway when you get old. It is the quality of life that is important, he said. If you know the past 40 years were crappy, why live another 30 crappy years then die? His point was they engage in dangerous behavior which tends to shorten the lifespans, to die now and avoid the next 30 crappy years, using my example. The host got sarcastic and ended the call instead of trying understanding his point. Agreement wasn't necesary. I put music back on. But it was an interesting, and useful point for me to hear.

December 31, 2008:
My anger and rage is largely gone since I began lifting weights. Lifting drains me but I still have energy. Somebody else suggested running but that did not help me. I guess strenuous exercise is necesary for a man. So I just learned that now at 48. Maybe 30 years later than I would have liked. My dad never (not once) talked to me or asked about my life's details and tell me what he knew. He was just a useless sperm doner. Don't know why, find it fun talking to young kids when I visit someone. Brother was actually counter-productive and would try to embarase me or discourage my efferts when persuing things, esp girls early on (teen years). Useless bully. Result is I am learning basics by trial and error in my 40s, followed by discuragement. Seems odd, but thats true. Writing all this is helping me justify my plan and to see the futility of continuing. Too embarassed to tell anyone this, at almost 50 one is expected to just know these things.
I hope it doesn't snow on Tuesday. Just thought of that. The crowd will be thin so I would postpone. ****!

Now that I am on the topic of family and people I know, I might as well make a summary of sorts to show where things stand. This is New Years Eve I have time, no date tonight of course, so:

Honorable mention:

Tetelestai Church in Pittsburgh, PA - "Be Ye Holy, even as I have been Ye holy! Thus saith the lord thy God!", as pastor Rick Knapp would proclaim. Holy ****, religion is a waste. But this guy teaches (and convinced me) you can commit mass murder then still go to heaven. Ask him. Call him at (724) 325-2655. If no answer there, he should still live at 439 9th Street, Oakmont, PA 15139. In any case, guilt and fear kept me there 13 long years until Nov 2006. I think his crap did the most damage. Their web site: http://www.tetelestai.org.

Mum - The Central Boss. 717 Highview Road, Pgh PA 15234. Don't piss her off or she will be mad and vindictive for years. She actually thinks she's normal. Very dominant. Her way and only her way with no flexibility toward everyone in the household. A power and control thing. People outside the immediate family like her. Why are people vicious with their closest ones? She is the Boss above all other Bosses.

Michael Sodini - A Boss, my brother (Mike Sodini) 216 Horseshoe Dr, Mars PA - Always the big bully, twice the size of most others. When he bullied or harassed someone, it was the other person who "deserved it". It was always about him. Way to self absorbed, too. Still is. Used to like to embarrass guys in front of their girlfriends. Lots of other ****. Kind of guy you actually loved to hate. The biggest, most self-centered jagoff I know. He took those bullying "skills" into the business world and is doing good financially. He is a big wheel only in his mind. Most people can see thru all his manipulation. He calls only when he wants something.

Sherry - sister - More of a victim than anything. Copes by exercising much control over her adult children. We used to be close until her control of L & D caused a conflict. Never the same after.

David - neph, sis's son (girlfriend Mallory Squires). Good young guy, though.

Lisa - niece, sis's daught. Attractive, smart, emotional - all good YW qualities.

Idiots:

Andy Pulkowski - I have been in barrooms and church groups. The worst people by far are the religious types. Especially a right-wing, stiff-faced fundie like Andy. A condescending, demeaning, passive-aggresive person. Frigid, rigid, linear and totally inflexible. Being a very serious person, he cannot hide his frown-lined face. He better not try to smile; lest his face might crack. I knew children of parents who grew up in strict religious homes. Religion has a certain stink to it of guilt, shame, fear, and that moral standard that always contradicts the natural tendencies and desires of a person. Therin lies the conflict. Young person cannot experiment with things to decide on their own and establish their own parameters. So they tend to cut loose and really rebel much worse than the average young person. Ma and Pa never know what goes on. They easily BS their parents because they want to believe their little one is an angel. Andy has a young daughter Bethany Pulkowski away at college, High Point University. I saw her picture on his desk. She's your basic, attractive, young girl. Please reread my entry made on Nov 5th. That's only one thing she can do. You Andy types out there need to further strengthen your strict resolve and do more of the same thing! Because those girls were great when I recall my college years! She is someone's (or many guy's) little hoe now, I am sure.

Another point about andy. How can someone be cold, vicious, sarcastic and generally nasty ALL THE TIME and then make the claim about their church life and how good they are? Total hypocritical idiots.

That's all for now. That felt good.

 

[CTApprentice]

Let's continue...

January 5, 2009:
Was at the gym to lift. Very crowded. Tomorrow should be good. There is a woman there that gives me a certain look every time I am there. I decided to walk over and make a comment about the crowds but she left when I finished the exercise. Better that I do not get sidetracked from tomorrow's plan anyways. Life is just playing games. One or two dates with her, then the end. No matter how many changes I try to make, things stay the same. Every evening I am alone, and then go to bed alone. Young women were brutal when I was younger, now they aren't as much, probably because they just see me just as another old man.
I see twenty something couples everywhere. I see a twenty something guy with a nice twentyish young women. I think those years slipped right by for me. Why should I continue another 20+ years alone? I will just work, come home, eat, maybe do something, then go to bed (alone) for the next day of the same thing. This is the Auschwitz Syndrome, to be in serious pain so long one thinks it is normal. I cannot wait for tomorrow!

January 6, 2009:
I can do this. Leaving work today, I felt like a zombie - just going thru the motions. Get on the bus, get the car, drive home.....My mind is screwed up anymore, I can't concentrate at work or think at all.
This log is not detailed. It is only for confidence to do this. The future holds even less than what I have today.
It is 6:40pm, about hour and a half to go. God have mercy. I wish life could be better for all and the crazy world can somehow run smoother. I wish I had answers. Bye.

It is 8:45PM: I chickened out! ****! I brought the loaded guns, everything. Hell!

April 24, 2009:
Early last month, we had our second general layoff. I survived. First one was in November. When I began 10 years ago, that used to be a nice place to work. I understand the need to reduce staff when times sour, but this is out of proportion to the economic problems at this time. The economy is shrinking by about 4-5%. They decided not to pay Christmas bonus - for staff that amounts to about 8% of yearly pay. Well, OK. Plus no yearly "merit" raise, another 3.5%. That totals to about 11% cut. Plus two layoffs of 5% staff in each case. Do the math. I know this firm is using this downturn as an excuse to take advanage of a bad situation and kill jobs UNNECESSARILY. The second layoff people who actually did work were let go. We all need to pick up the slack so the company can cut beyond what is necesary. Wasn't going to mention it, because of all this ****, it is K&L Gates, the large law firm headquartered here in Pittsburgh. Just call it K&L Gates Corporation. Most people there are OK and I would never have a shoot 'em up there. They paid me for 10 years, so far!

I predict I won't survive the next layoff. That is when there is no point to continue. RIght now, life is bearable and I can get by indefinitely. Something bad must happen. The paycheck is all I have left. The future holds nothing for me. Twenty five years of nothing fun. I never even spent one weekend with a girl in my life, even at my own place. Also unlikely to find another similar job. I guess then is when I take care of things. I don't have kids, close friends or anything. Just me here. If you have nothing, you have nothing to lose.

I enjoy writing these entries, I have no plans to go back and edit or even read most stuff already written. If you get bored, just click that "x" at the top, right corner of your browser. Bye.

May 4, 2009:
I was so eager to do this last year. The big problem on my mind now is that my job will end soon. One project is being transistioned to another. The other one I am solely responsible, but is being fast tracked to production. I estimate maybe a month. I am not ready for the job market. I am ok what I do, a .NET software developer. Not at the top of the class, but I do a good job. I survived two general layoffs and other little layoffs they are having but keeping quiet about. I hear things.

The problem is I feel too good now to do this but too bad to enjoy life. I know I will never enjoy life. This is an over 30 year trend. Some people are happy, some are miserable. It is difficult to live almost continuously feeling an undercurrent of fear, worry, discontentment and helplessness. I can talk and joke around and sound happy but under it all is something different that seems unchangable and a permanent part of my being. I need to realize the details of what I never accomplished in life and to be convinced the future is merely a continuation of the past - WHICH IT ALWAYS has been. I am making a list of items that will provide motivation to do the exit plan, it won't be published. I always had hope that maybe things will improve especially if I make big attempts to change my life. I made many big changes in the past two years but everything is still the same. Life is over. Even though I look good, dress well, well groomed - nails, teeth, hair, etc. Who knows.

What is it like to be dead? I always think I am forgetting something, that's one reason I postponed. Similar to when you leave to get in your car to go somewhere - you hesitate with a thought: "what am I forgetting?". In this case, I cannot make a return trip!

I like to write and talk. Ironic because I haven't met anybody recently (past 30 years) who I want to be close friends with OR who want to be close friends with me. I was always open to suggestions to what I am doing wrong, no brother or father (mine are useless) or close friend to nudge me and give it bluntly yet tactfully wtf I am doing wrong. A personal coach or someone who knows what he is doing would be perfect. Money is highly secondary for a solution.

May 5, 2009:
To pull the exit plan off, it popped into my mind to just use some booze. I want to do this before I get laid off, for reasons not worth mentioning but don't seem to have the balls. After the gym, I stopped at Shop N Save and got a fifth of vodka and a small bottle of Jack Daniels. I haven't had a drink since September 1, 1988, just over 20 years. It doesn't matter now, I need to use it to take the edge off of carrying out the exit plan. I will be taking some every now and then to get used to it and see if the alcohol effects will embolden me. Weed would be fun to try again. I don't know who has any. Life is over, who cares? I just need to use common sense, can't drink and drive, etc. This idea just hit me at a point in time and I immediately acted on it. Same thing happened when I decided to go back to Pitt full time, first day was Monday, May 8, 1989, and to buy the house that closed on Friday, September 30, 1996, to name two examples I remember so well.

The list idea yesterday is working. I carry it in my wallet and add to it. I am feeling to good to do carry this out, but too bad to enjoy ANYTHING. My life's dilema.

May 6, 2009:
I started the JD. About one ounce with some tea to get me started. No big deal.

May 7, 2009:
Went to the gym and did mostly cardio. My heart rate was 117 just from walking on the treadmill at 3.4. This should be done a few times a week for maybe 15 mins or so to keep the heart active. I sprinted a few times to push the limits.

May 18, 2009:
I actually had a date today. It was with a woman I met on the bus in March. We got together at Two PPG Place for lunch. The last date for me was May 1, 2008. Women just don't like me. There are 30 million desirable women in the US (my estimate) and I cannot find one. Not one of them finds me attractive. I am looking at The List I made from my May 4th idea. I forgot about that for several days. That tells me where I stand. These problems have gotten worse over a 30 year period. I need to expect nothing from me or other people. All through the years I thought we had the ability to change ourselves - I guess that is incorrect. Looking at The List makes me realize how TOTALLY ALONE, a deeper word is ISOLATED, I am from all else.
I no longer have any expectations of myself. I have no options because I cannot work toward and achieve even the smallest goals. That is, ABOVE ALL, what bothers me the most. Not to be able to work towards what I want in my life. I believe I am deserve that. I read recently it is called "self efficacy", but who knows. Is that more psychobable?

May 25, 2009:
I was invited to a picnic, and I went. An older woman there, out of the blue, asked if I liked high school. Then quickly asked if I was picked on very much. Intersting why she would ask that. But, thanks, I already know what the problem is, but a solution eludes me.

May 29, 2009:
Another lonely Friday night, I'm done. This is too much.

June 2, 2009:
Some people I was talking with believed I date a lot and get around with women. They think this because I showed an email I got from a hot woman to the department gossip, but it didn't work out. All this is funny. Actually, I haven't had sex since I was 29 years old, 19 years ago. That's true.

June 5, 2009:
I was reading several posts on different forums and it seems many teenage girls have sex frequently. One 16 year old does it usually three times a day with her boyfriend. So, err, after a month of that, this little hoe has had more sex than ME in my LIFE, and I am 48. One more reason. Thanks for nada, *****es! Bye.

July 4, 2009:
Wow, already late evening. I stayed in all day. Can't believe there was NOTHING to do today. No parties or picnics. WTF. No need to leave now.

cont...

 

[CTApprentice]

July 20, 2009:
Been a long time since last write. Everything still sucks. But I got a promotion and a raise, even in this ****ty Obama ecomomy. No more grunt programming. Go figure! New boss is great. He tactfully says when you did something wrong or complements on good things. Never confused with him. But that is NOT what I want in life. I guess some of us were simply meant to walk a lonely path. I have slept alone for over 20 years. Last time I slept all night with a girlfriend it was 1982. Proof I am a total malfunction. Girls and women don't even give me a second look ANYWHERE. There is something BLATANTLY wrong with me that NO goddam person will tell me what it is. Every person just wants to be ****ing nice and say nice things to me. Flattery. Oh yeah, I am sure you can get a date anytime. You look good, etc. Pussies.
Awwww, wait. I can just start being self-righteous and say I live a good, clean life. I am holy, that's all Rick Knapp stuff. Hear that you mother ****er: I Am Just Good!July 23, 2009:

Wow!!

I just looked out my front window and saw a beautiful college-age girl leave Bob Fox's house, across the street. I guess he got a good lay today. College girls are hoez. I masturbate. Frequently. He is about 45 years old. She was a long haired, hot little hottie with a beautiful bod. I masturbate. Frequently. Some were simply meant to walk a lonely path in life. I don't usually look out, but just happened to notice. Holy ****. I have masturbated since age 13. Thanks, mum and brother (by blood alone). And dad, old man, for TOTALLY ignoring me through the years. All of you DEEPLY helped me be this way.

I wish I can go back to 1975 and fix things. Awe, that wont work, big BULLY BROTHER would assert his bull ****. He was twice my size. He never messed with guys bigger than 5'10, or so. He is a ***** at heart. Remember, Michael is my brother (we have common parents, that's all) is still a BOSS. Repetition only for emphasis: HE IS ONLY A BULLY, even at 50ish! Never forget that! Because he exudes confidence. People believe bull **** if delivered WITH CONFIDENCE. Get it??

On the same thought, things occured to me today. Michael NEVER had an attractive girlfriend. Debbie, Barb, Kim, ... then I lost track. Not to say I had any (execpt Pam, who was about a 7.25). He married a Chinese-descent, petite woman with no body, no ass, no chest and no personality. She never laughs or smiles, neither does he. But she is highly intelligent and an excellent cook. I can testify to that! She home bakes her own DELICIOUS wheat bread! But who cares about that type of small bull crap? Mike even mentioned when we were visiting dad that "she's not very attractive".

I don't know where I am going with this. I am getting tired, feels good to write and get it all out.

On still another thought, I had 20+ years of sobriety and achieved nothing about friendships, girlfriends, guys, etc. Zilch. What a waste.

Bye, for today.


August 2, 2009:
The biggest problem of all is not having relationships or friends, but not being able to achieve and acquire what I desire in those or many other areas. Everthing stays the same regardless of the effert I put in. If I had control over my life then I would be happier. But for about the past 30 years, I have not

August 3, 2009:
I took off today, Monday, and tomorrow to practice my routine and make sure it is well polished. I need to work out every detail, there is only one shot. Also I need to be completely immersed into something before I can be successful. I haven't had a drink since Friday at about 2:30. Total effort needed. Tomorrow is the big day.

Unfortunately I talked to my neighbor today, who is very positive and upbeat. I need to remain focused and absorbed COMPLETELY. Last time I tried this, in January, I chickened out. Lets see how this new approach works.

Maybe soon, I will see God and Jesus. At least that is what I was told. Eternal life does NOT depend on works. If it did, we will all be in hell. Christ paid for EVERY sin, so how can I or you be judged BY GOD for a sin when the penalty was ALREADY paid. People judge but that does not matter. I was reading the Bible and The Integrity of God beginning yesterday, because soon I will see them.

I will try not to add anymore entries because this computer clicking distracts me.

Also, any of the "Practice Papers" left on my coffee table I used or the notes in my gym bag can be published freely. I will not be embarased, because, well, I will be dead. Some people like to study that stuff. Maybe all this will shed insight on why some people just cannot make things happen in their life, which can potentially benefit others.



Miscellaneous:

1. Probably 99% of the people who know me well don't even think I was this crazy. Told by at least 100 girls/women over the years I was a "nice guy". Not kidding.

2. Lee Ann Valdiserri had my baby in early 1991. Haven't seen her since she was about four months into it. I knew her sister, Chris, from high school.

3. Net worth slightly more than $250K, (after all debt) as of end of 2008.

4. Death Lives!

I read the whole thing...I really don't know what to say...

Sodini looked good for his age, he could have pulled some pretty attractive women. Just thinking about it, if one person could have just reached out...maybe this tragedy could have been prevented.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

I was always open to suggestions to what I am doing wrong, no brother or father (mine are useless) or close friend to nudge me and give it bluntly yet tactfully wtf I am doing wrong. A personal coach or someone who knows what he is doing would be perfect.

This is why I post here.

 

[The Bat]

Even though the guy turned out to be a serial killer, I can't help but feel extreme pity/sadness for this guy and his situation/life.

Why should I continue another 20+ years alone? I will just work, come home, eat, maybe do something, then go to bed (alone) for the next day of the same thing. This is the Auschwitz Syndrome, to be in serious pain so long one thinks it is normal.

I imagined myself in this guy's shoes and when I did that, I wondered what I would have done.

Yes, he is a coward for taking the easy, non-productive way out...

...but have none of us ever felt alone, desperate, suicidal, depressed, and bitter about our past/life?

Yes, it's true that none of us acted on those emotions and decided to shoot up bunch of people...

My point is that you can imagine how this guy must have felt about his situation.

And from that, you can realize why learning self-improvement and killing your inner AFC is so extremely vitally important.

Just as importantly, it is also extremely important to help out your fellow man whenever and wherever possible.

This is probably AFC at its worst...

 

[CTApprentice]

Forgot to add picture:

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8366/mecafe.jpg

 

[fertileTurtle]

I just had this feeling this story would be here where it is on SS. Epic post, epic story. I'll have more thoughts on it a little later when I get some time, but I'll just add for now that something like this was bound to happen in the feminist ran modern American society so ironically in the biggest city in the country of all places. Feminism is 1000 times uglier than we give it credit for. It was not meant for the man to be alone.

 

[Da Realist]

Feminism? AFCism? The guy was just crazier than a ****house rat and decided somebody else should pay for HIS failures.

 

[piranha45]

The gunman was 48-year-old Carnegie, Pennsylvania resident George Sodini, who was a systems analyst at the law firm of K&L Gates.[6] On a website registered in his name, Sodini described years of rejection by women. The site also chronicles, over a nine-month period, his plans to carry out a shooting. [7] The assailant is reported to have left a note inside the gym bag stating that he did not expect to survive the attack, and it is believed that he shot himself

thats off his wiki page, it probably summarizes what the OP quoted

 

[The Pedantical]

This is a man who was disconnected from reality.

Anyway, He mentioned a dominant mother and brother. This kind of setting is typical breeding ground for people who become isolated socially.

He died without realizing that it's not because he kept failing in life that he thought he couldn't improve his situation. It's because he believed he couldn't improve his situation that he kept failing in life.

 

[speakeasy]

None of this has squat to do with feminism. This is all to do with Sodini's personal demons and his obvious psychosis. Believe it or not, most feminists date men and marry them. There is nothing in feminist doctrine that says women should reject men. So I don't think feminism should even be mentioned here. It would like if some racist white dude were to shoot a bunch of black people, then saying it's the fault of the civil rights movement. This was one man's 20 years of pent-up sexual frustration all being released at once on people who didn't know him and had nothing to do with his problem. I doubt he really even hated women. Rather just the opposite, he wanted them so much that he hated the fact that it drove him insane that he couldn't have one. My guess is that he hated the rejection, not women.

 

[STR8UP]

None of this has squat to do with feminism. This is all to do with Sodini's personal demons and his obvious psychosis. Believe it or not, most feminists date men and marry them. There is nothing in feminist doctrine that says women should reject men. So I don't think feminism should even be mentioned here. It would like if some racist white dude were to shoot a bunch of black people, then saying it's the fault of the civil rights movement. This was one man's 20 years of pent-up sexual frustration all being released at once on people who didn't know him and had nothing to do with his problem. I doubt he really even hated women. Rather just the opposite, he wanted them so much that he hated the fact that it drove him insane that he couldn't have one. My guess is that he hated the rejection, not women.

Incorrect.

I was going to explain how 50 years ago this decent looking, in shape guy would have probably been long since married due to the culture of the time, but I kind of figured that roissy might have already written something about it, and in fact he did. Read it here.

Fact of the matter is, this kind of thing is the manifestation of the frustration men are feeling for being squeezed out of the mating game by a system that modern feminism brought on about 40 years ago.

We can speculate all day long about whether or not he would have still gone crazy had feminism not had such a profound influence on concentrating the sexual market into what equates to a large pool of women having sex with a small pool of men, but my money says this kind of thing wouldn't have happened had it not been for the screwed up state feminism has left our culture in.

 

[speakeasy]

Okay, I just read the whole thing myself. I remember David DeAngelo once warning of the danger of getting too caught up in your own head. I have never before seen an example ofa guy that was more caught up in head than this dude. In the worse days of my AFCism, I can even relate to some of the things this guy said. There were times I felt anger toward women, because I felt like I was a nice guy who wasn't getting anywhere, yet would read about infamous criminals in jail getting love letters from random women.

This was AFCism in the most extreme scenario. He at least got some action 20 years ago. There are actually guys walking around out there his age that haver never gotten ANY action. These guys could be ticking timebombs waiting to go off as well.

Another thing I find interesting about this case is that he is probably not the kind of guy that anyone at work would think was so deranged. Some people are skilled at encapusulating their problems when they need to appear normal to the outside world.

It's really too bad for both him and the women that were victims of his derangment. We need to learn how to recognize early signs of AFCism when guys are young and get involved. If parents see that their son is 18 and you never see him bringing girls around or going out on dates, it's fine time to sit down and have a talk with him. The earlier you can catch this stuff, the easier it is to turn around.

 

[speakeasy]

Incorrect.

I was going to explain how 50 years ago this decent looking, in shape guy would have probably been long since married due to the culture of the time, but I kind of figured that roissy might have already written something about it, and in fact he did. Read it here.

Fact of the matter is, this kind of thing is the manifestation of the frustration men are feeling for being squeezed out of the mating game by a system that modern feminism brought on about 40 years ago.

We can speculate all day long about whether or not he would have still gone crazy, had feminism not had such a profound influence on concentrating the sexual market into what equates to a large pool of women having sex with a small pool of men, but my money says this kind of thing wouldn't have happened had it not been for the screwed up state feminism has left our culture in.

How do we know he'd have had a woman 40 years ago? Given that the guy has a decent physical presence and a good job, you have to surmise that he must have really had some personal issues. Before we go blaming feminism, we should be asking questions like, how many approaches did this guy make in the last year? My guess is that this guy just sat by watching other men get women and did nothing.

 

[War Against Betaism]

Just read the whole thing, wow, that's pretty crazy. To be honest I would imagine myself ending up like this guy 30 years down the line if it weren't for getting into the game. Socially awkward, lots of friends but no "close friends" to really keep in touch with, depressed, and thoughts of suicides ran down my head from time to time. Then I found out about this community and learned how to respect myself and others (didn't do that). Not saying I made a complete 180, yet, but at least I'm not walking the lonely path anymore.

 

[KontrollerX]

The guy wasn't a coward.

Nor did he take the easy way out or any other worthless garbage reactionaries are so often fond of saying.

In reality the guy was so far gone mentally from isolation and depression his actions were more a result of just not giving a fvck anymore.

See to be a coward one has to have fear.

It wasn't fear that caused him to kill those women or himself.

It was a fvck this world and everyone in it, nothing matters or means anything anymore mindset that did it.

It was the personal realization that he had nothing to look forward to in his life that did it.

Radical feminism is directly responsible for keeping crucial knowledge away from this man that could have saved his and those women's lives.

The education system, media, movies, music, talkshows and on and on promote feminism and the metrosexualization of men. Its all around us. Its all about us. It is the Matrix.

Had he access to knowledge such as put forth by Sosuave how to exist in our particular feminized society and break free of his feminized programming and be successful with women in it he'd be a fulfilled happy man and he and all those women would still be alive today.

School shootings such as Columbine and lone gunmen such as Martin Bryant reveal common themes.

-Assh0lish jock guys give other guys who are just trying to make it through the day needless trouble.
-Girls who are ridiculously entitled by the culture immediately reject guy before even getting to know him.
-Guy being isolated, bullied and alone with no justice or future for himself in sight pays back society's "kindness" with a bullet or several and then we have to listen to the media drone on and on about how evil and deranged the killer was without putting any of the blame or responsibility on itself or the society that created the killer/s.

Know justice, know peace, no justice, no peace.

True phrase.

These guys don't get any justice or any helping hand up at all and then we sit back and wonder why they destroy themselves and others.

Its ridiculous.

Anger at this guy for what he did is missplaced anger plain and simple.

The system created this killer just as it created the Columbine kids, Martin Bryant and Cho who did the Virginia Tech massacre.

Hate the system.

The guy was just a victim of it as were those women he killed.

 

[FutureSpartan]

None of this has squat to do with feminism. This is all to do with Sodini's personal demons and his obvious psychosis. Believe it or not, most feminists date men and marry them. There is nothing in feminist doctrine that says women should reject men. So I don't think feminism should even be mentioned here. It would like if some racist white dude were to shoot a bunch of black people, then saying it's the fault of the civil rights movement. This was one man's 20 years of pent-up sexual frustration all being released at once on people who didn't know him and had nothing to do with his problem. I doubt he really even hated women. Rather just the opposite, he wanted them so much that he hated the fact that it drove him insane that he couldn't have one. My guess is that he hated the rejection, not women.

x2

I have no ounce of sympathy for this guy. He was a murderer and a psychopath who destroyed innocent lives. No one put a gun to his head and forced him to do this. He could have easily gotten a mail-order bride or bought escorts if he was that sexually frustrated.

Men like him make it that much harder for the rest of us guys. Get ready for the "are you a pyschopath murderer" sh*t-test from women now.

 

[speakeasy]

Anger at this guy for what he did is missplaced anger plain and simple.

I've read my share of ridiculous opinions in this forum before, but this is a prize-winner.

 

[The Bat]

The guy wasn't a coward[...]See to be a coward one has to have fear[...]It was the personal realization that he had nothing to look forward to in his life that did it[...]

Hey KX, I consider that fear bud. Fear of living the rest of his life knowing that he had nothing to look forward to. Get what I mean?

In reality the guy was so far gone mentally from isolation and depression his actions were more a result of just not giving a fvck anymore.

Hmm perhaps. So what he just became so consumed by loneliness and life filled with no love that he became emotionally detached? And he decided to go out in the grandest way possible?

Radical feminism is directly responsible for keeping crucial knowledge away from this man that could have saved his and those women's lives.

The education system, media, movies, music, talkshows and on and on promote feminism and the metrosexualization of men. Its all around us. Its all about us. It is the Matrix.

Had he access to knowledge such as put forth by Sosuave how to exist in our particular feminized society and break free of his feminized programming and be successful with women in it he'd be a fulfilled happy man and he and all those women would still be alive today.

True. I agree with you that he had no real role models to follow and learn from. As Rollo pointed out, he was desperate for some type of knowledge that made sense to him. And obviously bull$hit like The View, dime store psychology self-help books, and Dr. Phil don't make sense to any testosteronized straight man.

This is why it is so vitally important that we as Men create, find, or support any small hint of real Man knowledge in the media and our culture and embrace it and promote it till the day we die.

-Guy being isolated, bullied and alone with no justice or future for himself in sight pays back society's "kindness" with a bullet or several and then we have to listen to the media drone on and on about how evil and deranged the killer was without putting any of the blame or responsibility on itself or the society that created the killer/s.

I read one of the salon workers who saw this guy on a regular basis comment on how "nerdy" he was and how "shy and awkward" this guy was...

...seriously how do they continue to fail to see how condescending they are being....?

Pisses me off to no end to see people pick on shy, insecure, scared, lonely people and label them as "awkward, nerds, geeks, dorks, etc."....whatever happened to showing some kindness and being understanding towards that person's state of mind??

 

[Chianardo-Di-Caprio]

He was planning it for months he was in full control of what he was doing and didnt just lose his mind and have a moment of insanity. Whatever he got picked on and rejected thats never a good enough reason to go out and kill people. If life is so horrible and you have nothing to look forward to top yourself then instead taking innocent people with you.