Feminist reaction to sosuave

[nonchalant]

Not surprisingly, we are frightening and scary to them. I think the woman who wrote this article even described the ideas on this site as being 'borderline rapist'.

http://girlyshoetheory.blogspot.com/2007/01/personal-feminism-vs-academic-feminism.html

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Funny read. But is there a reason why we would care about what these women think?

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

oh for ****s sake...

Now my first reaction was to call bull**** on all that. If some guy touches me in a bar he might very well end up with his own hand shoved straight up his patoot.

from the sounds of her, this girl doesnt have to worry bout being touched in a bar

Really lastly, the blatant homophobia on that site (though they claim they aren't homophobic) ties into this conversation a bit. A lot of people that I knew at school that also knew this guy knew that he dated girls, but a lot of them thought he might be gay. I'm not sure what the difference is between "slightly feminine most likely straight guy" is in "straight gaydar" or "slightly feminine most likely gay gay" is, but there is one to most people.

absolutely. blanket party for all the gays on here :trouble:

what a load of bull****... this mustached woman has no idea what shes talking about...

 

[comic_relief]

I liked how she quoted PRL. HAHAHAHA, no wonder she got a bad vibe from this site.

The interesting thing about feminists is that they are the best ones to talk to. They might possibly be the easiest ones to get, if they are hot (there is some hot ones at my university). I have met a couple of them and have got their numbers. Went out with them and talked some more. Ended up getting a kiss. Then use your imagination. It is all about tact.

Some people just don't understand it. Use tact and you got them eating out your hand.

comic_relief

btw forms, this site is very misunderstood because of what it shows up as. It says that it is all about gaming girls, but yet it is actually about getting what you want out of life.

 

[The Forms]

wow, she really does not understand sosuave at all.

 

[BBX]

I did tell a female friend of mine that all girls are the same and pu$$y is pu$$y, i got drenched with the feminist speech and almost attacked lol

 

[nonchalant]

I resent being automatically labelled a 'villain' and a 'borderline rapist', just because I read a site that tells men to be more assertive and have some self respect. I resent feminists can throw that accusation around so casually.

On the other hand, she seemed to quote that stupid douchebag who posts no advice other than to call women 'hors' in every thread. Idiots like that give this site a bad name.

 

[Desdinova]

One of my friends from my last school that had a couple classes with and worked on projects with has recently become a devotee of the stuff taught at sosuave.com.

Allright guys, fess up. Who's the guy she's talking about?

"...Real men TAKE what they want." From here. This statement, and others just like it, repeated over and over again, are something akin to the biggest promotion of rape culture I've ever read in my entire life.

This woman seems to have taken this quote out of context. She's taking it far too literally when the quote was referring to approaching a woman that the man desires to be with.

Sosuave isn't about forcing sex upon women who don't want it. In the five or so years I've been here, I've never seen this happen. I've read posts about guys paying hookers to get laid, but never deliberately raping women.

This woman doesn't seem to know that motivation for rape is most likely desperation. By educating men to be good at picking up women, we are helping eliminate the desperation. When picking up women becomes easy, there is no more desperation, and the man no longer has "woman problems".

I'd reply to her blog if I didn't feel that I would be wasting my time. But it's nice to see Last Man Standing quoted. Perhaps he should reply

 

[A-Unit]

Re:

Feminism still exists because the mentality that fosters it, and opposes it, still exists.

Just take a look around...

How many BITTER guys blame women, and not themselves?

[Even if the woman is a COMPLETE and UTTER D-bag, you STILL are responsible for ACCEPTING and CONTINUING on with whatever gauntlet she sets forth. Change your standards, change everyone else]

How many guys feel the initial event that sent them here was...a woman who didn't love them, LJBF, cheated, etc?

[Probably a large % of them. And therein lies one of the many problems. They look for the victim outside of themselves, RATHER than awaken their own being to the reality that "they were asleep."]

The bottom line truth, point of fact about reality is...that everything you experience (which encompasses feelings), is your choice. You choose to see or not see something. You choose to ignore or focus on something. You choose to stay asleep or wake up. It's YOUR CHOICE. Nobody is supposed to tell you, EVEN if there's someone with that job, because you're really trusting someone else with your chosen reality.

Nobody, including a father, is supposed to say..."this is how life works." Nobody even has that answer. No man has the supreme answer to say..."this is how you interact with women," because the beauty and magic of life lies in how Malleable it is.

Going out and actively seeking sites like this woman writes, responding, passing it around, only spreads the mentality of feminism, and the corresponding hate which some men foster.

You want to focus on something?

Focus on bringing more love to all things, experiences, and people.
Focus on bringing more happiness and good vibes.

If someone doesn't FLOW with you, don't let them in your FLOW.

BE the change you want of the world. Walk the talk. Forget talking. People only believe what they see, so be believed by being something THEY can see.

If a woman wants to believe the major points about feminism, so be it. I don't even know what they are, nor care. I only care about the person I attract and will be dating, not about what 3,000,000,000 believe, or even what a small % believe about something called "feminism." If you give no attention to something, it has no power. But more importantly, who cares? Does arguing against it or fighting it help you get closer to women, or just make you more bitter *knowing* this little nugget, and then trying to find women who demonstrate this quality?

I don't get some guys...they desire success with women, and sex, and deep relationships and friendships, but then they focus on the negative aspects of both those things and wonder, "gee, why don't I have X, Y, and Z?"

Good luck, to all.


A-Unit

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

its true. If you believe that you need to memorize thousands of routines before u are successful with women, then so be it.

if you believe all you need to do is be yourself, then thats all it'll take.

 

[Nighthawk]

I'd reply to her blog if I didn't feel that I would be wasting my time.

I had a little time to waste and added a comment. I expect it will get deleted, but if everyone reading this takes a few minutes to reply to her nonsense - hey she accuses this site of actively promoting rape - then it would, at least, be very funny.

 

[Deep Dish]

I do somewhat understand the reality the ordinary woman faces on a weekly basis--dirty old men, unwanted physical affections, incapacities for the word "no", ecetera--and how that would distort their lense of perception when viewing this website. Of course, to them, the world is not full of too-sanitary guys who bashfully avert romantic explorations but dirty old pigs who smell, stink, and slobber over them whilst bent on world domination. And so the perception of the perpetuation of the "rape culture." The quotes were true, though perhaps not eloquent, and feminism is bull--and quite exactly what self-contradictory version of feminism are we talking about?--but, in their eyes, it's the only thing they have.

 

[Desdinova]

I saw two instances at the bar this weekend that would make it look as though the men involved in the situations were devoted readers of this site - at least as this woman sees it.

There was a couple who were sitting at the table next to mine. The woman was making eye contact and smiling at me throughout the whole night while her boyfriend "entertained" her. Later in the evening, I was disturbed by the couple and watched the woman pushing her boyfriend away, yelling at him not to touch her while he continued to try and touch her, kiss her, and comfort her. She walked out the door and he followed.

For someone who is knowledgeable of the information on this site, the boyfriend obviously WASN'T a student of sosuave. He would realize the rejection and focus his attention elsewhere instead of trying to combat the rejection with attention. This is the main reason why this site PREVENTS rape rather than condoning it.

If the woman doesn't want to spend time with you, NEXT. It's a waste of time trying to force a woman to be attracted to you.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I liked how she quoted PRL. HAHAHAHA, no wonder she got a bad vibe from this site.

My man PRL, pulling the attention those feminist 'hors!!!

 

[Kev07]

feminists are hilarious

Look at this quote

"Furthermore, all women on the site are referred to by numbers representing their overall hotness. Hotness is based upon nothing but personal appearance, of course, because what a man WANTS on this site and what a man believes he deserves, what he is entitled to, is a woman that is far more attractive than he might be (which was something I noticed a whole heck of a lot at my last school. If you don't ever leave the front of your computer, eat nothing but ramen, and never shower, don't expect a super model boys, and just following the tips on this website to change those behaviors does NOT make you MORE DESERVING of a super model, sheesh.)"

she furthers the DJ cause.

 

[DJDamage]

My gawed she is so right, she has opened my eyes to the truth! Its amazing how it makes so much sense that when you don't get a girl you are seem pathetic and therefore men who run to sites to understand women and get them are misogynistic.

To feminism if you are male and if you do get a girl you better have done so while being in a cautious submissive approach and politley ask her out and apologizing to her if you offended her or disturbed her with your approach. We should all strive to make all social interaction sterile with no hint of sexual desire other wise you should go back to your cave you barbarian! Beauty is on the inside and everything on the outside its just skin.

It all makes sense now I better stop hitting the gym too because it makes me all aggressive and shallow and I should take some pills to supress my testosterone. I really should model my behaviour after non aggressive bubbly guys because they are not afraid to show who they really are and they don't care about silly things as being a man.

 

[Kev07]

I couldn't resist from commenting.

 

[wayword]

I saw two instances at the bar this weekend that would make it look as though the men involved in the situations were devoted readers of this site - at least as this woman sees it.

There was a couple who were sitting at the table next to mine. The woman was making eye contact and smiling at me throughout the whole night while her boyfriend "entertained" her. Later in the evening, I was disturbed by the couple and watched the woman pushing her boyfriend away, yelling at him not to touch her while he continued to try and touch her, kiss her, and comfort her. She walked out the door and he followed.

For someone who is knowledgeable of the information on this site, the boyfriend obviously WASN'T a student of sosuave. He would realize the rejection and focus his attention elsewhere instead of trying to combat the rejection with attention. This is the main reason why this site PREVENTS rape rather than condoning it.

Ya, the more I learn, the more it amazes me how AFC the rest of men out there are.

This past weekend I was out and was conversing with a group. The girl was drunk, maybe stoned too, and I was just reflexively C&Fing her. And she loved it.

Well, her bf started marking his turf a little and was kinda acting like her lapdog, pumping her up with compliments, worshipping her gold-plated puzzy and I couldn't help but think to myself, damn what an AFC...

And the other weekend this HB7.7 was flirting heavily with me...but when i wouldn't buy her drinks, she turned her attention towards some AFC who would. Well, I watched him buy her whole group drinks ALL NIGHT LONG, until she finally bailed into some other guy's lap at the end and left him high & dry! Which I had already seen coming a mile away! :crackup:

The really funny thing is that these clueless guys were all sorta ghettolite "bad boy" types...not geeks mind you, yet still total AFCs.

 

[Wyldfire]

A-Unit is a very wise man...and the other guys on here would be very wise to listen to him. Feminism continues to exist for the same reason some men on this site blame women for everything bad that happens in their lives. Bottom line...it's fear and weakness. Women who embrace feminism and blame men for everything are no different than those of you who embrace victimhood and blame women for everything. You all would rather blame the opposite sex for your mistakes and failures than take responsibility for your own happiness. Yes, there are bad men and bad women in this world...but ultimately, if people weren't so hell bent on instant gratification and immediate results in their pursuit of companionship, love, sex, etc then things wouldn't be as they are. There are some good lessons on this site, but in the long run, you don't need any of it if you'd just slow down and be more careful in who you choose to get involved with. If you jump at the first attractive person that walks by without getting to know WHO they are as a person then you are just setting yourself up to get hurt. You wouldn't take that kind of risk with your money, so why do you do it with your heart? Stop chasing after bad women and take the time to determine if a woman is worth your time before you invest that time in her. Would you throw all your money into the first investment that came along and looked good or would you find out more about it before risking everything? Start approaching dating and relationships with the same considerations you would take in approaching financial investments...you'll get hurt and screwed over a lot less.

 

[wayword]

A-Unit is a very wise man...and the other guys on here would be very wise to listen to him. Feminism continues to exist for the same reason some men on this site blame women for everything bad that happens in their lives. Bottom line...it's fear and weakness. Women who embrace feminism and blame men for everything are no different than those of you who embrace victimhood and blame women for everything. You all would rather blame the opposite sex for your mistakes and failures than take responsibility for your own happiness. Yes, there are bad men and bad women in this world...but ultimately, if people weren't so hell bent on instant gratification and immediate results in their pursuit of companionship, love, sex, etc then things wouldn't be as they are. There are some good lessons on this site, but in the long run, you don't need any of it if you'd just slow down and be more careful in who you choose to get involved with. If you jump at the first attractive person that walks by without getting to know WHO they are as a person then you are just setting yourself up to get hurt. You wouldn't take that kind of risk with your money, so why do you do it with your heart? Stop chasing after bad women and take the time to determine if a woman is worth your time before you invest that time in her. Would you throw all your money into the first investment that came along and looked good or would you find out more about it before risking everything? Start approaching dating and relationships with the same considerations you would take in approaching financial investments...you'll get hurt and screwed over a lot less.

Uh, aren't you the cougar who dates ex-cons and hasn't had sex in 5 years?

Yet you are giving us advice on "quality control?" :crackup:

Problem is, American women are like Detroit auto in the 70s - overpriced, bloated and poor quality. They're only good for joyriding a few times before they break down on you. This was all due largely to feminism. And when quality is so rare, how can you expect to find a good deal? You can't.

When the entire market is crappy - you can't blame the consumer who has nothing else to choose from.