escorts vs civvies

[sangheilios]

I'm totally down to become better with pulling the ladies. But at the same time, escorts come with a lot of pluses you don't get when trying to pull civvies.

Many guys, however, are adamant civvies are way better than escorts. Which makes me wonder...is there some universal truth I'm missing? A universal truth these guys know, that I'm unaware of?

Perhaps there's a shortcut to pulling civvies that I'm unaware of? Because to me, pulling a civvie appears to be a lot more time and effort.

Here are my thoughts and feelings pertaining to this.

Having sex with an escort is not the same as having sex with a woman you are dating, which I'll elaborate on.

When you have sex with an escort you might be enjoying the moment but it's not comparable to having sex with a woman that is actually attracted to you. The best way I can honestly describe it is a step up from masturbation, you might be ****ing a woman, seeing her bounce and jiggle around, etc. However, these women are doing this purely for the money and not really into the interaction, so it will come across as kind of mechanical. Sure, there are some escorts that may be nymphos, which would be the best ones to find, but I think more often than not it's purely a transactional thing for them.

When you fool around with a woman that is actually attracted to you there is an entirely different dynamic to it. They seem to be much more into pleasing you, they seem to climax/orgasm more easily, much more eager and into it in the moment, etc. I think a lot of issues men have in relationships and dating are often because they are involved with women that aren't really that attracted to them. These women in relationships may start seeing sex as a chore. Those in the earlier stages of dating might just have sex with a man to see if they develop some sort of "spark" with this guy, etc. They really aren't into it but simply going through the motions. If a woman is attracted to you, or ideally highly attracted, she will be far more readily available sexually.

 

[sangheilios]

Now I will have a problem to fapping with escort women. Part of the allure of enjoying escort ads are that they are actually pics of real women. To maintain the suspension of disbelief this is necessary.

Or perhaps, the only reason I can fap to them is because they are not normal woman but like cvm dumpsters. Normal women have a different fap aspect, I cant do that without getting jockjaw. Like someone is punching me for taking advantage of a woman in my mind. However with escorts the fapping feels allot easier, just like using the washroom rather than a conquest. Perhaps they register as different after all.

Bro, wth are you going on about with this craziness?

 

[corrector]

I enjoy women like pretty much nothing else in the world. I can easily dedicate several hours a day to sex because my chosen occupation allows me to do so. Like I was explaining to one of my birds last night, who is particularly well endowed in the chest department after she noted (as I was paying with her mammaries) "Have you always been a boobs guy?" my answer was, "In this case, I totally am because they're beautiful and kind of out there, but in general women are born with physiques that are congruent - I've been with partners who were a-cups, and I still found them wildly attractive."

She was amazed and pleased by my answer. Her response was, "You really love women, don't you?" with a great big smile on her face, to which I replied,

Exactly why I like looking at escort ads. Too many variations of races, sizes, and shapes of women, breasts, nipples, etc... For example, if you are in the mood for a woman with a huge butt, you just go on the ad, find her, and start fapping. I wish I didn't like pictures of women that much. It's like a huge catelogue of women's bodies, not unlike you are professing your love of women because of variations of bodies. The only difference is you have the looks to get women attracted to you, whereas other have to pay or fap at pictures of them. How do you present that as some sort of virtue here then (really a curiousity tone)?

 

[corrector]

Sure, there are some escorts that may be nymphos,

Interesting. All of the escorts ads I am fapping about are all 100% nympthos in my mind.

Even when I dealt with them in the past in 2014, they were all great experiences at the moment. Don't know where you guys are finding these "mechanical escorts". The idea is that everybody gets wild and crazy in a session, not mechanical.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

The only difference is you have the looks to get women attracted to you, whereas other have to pay or fap at pictures of them. How do you present that as some sort of virtue here then (really a curiousity tone)?

Men who genuinely attract women are MADE, not born. This black pill excuse of not having the "genetics" is BS. If I were your run-of-the-mill 50-something white male, I'd be 40-50lbs overweight, wear Costco jeans, have a bad haircut, with nose and ear hair that is so long it could be braided and would struggle to see the tip of my cawk when looking down.

Until you get in gym shape and handle your personal style issues and general shyness (around women), you are not maxed out and cannot compare yourself to those of us who have put in the years of work required to be your personal best.

Until you are, your proclamations of not being attractive are platitudes and excuses not to push yourself toward excellence.

 

[corrector]

Men who genuinely attract women are MADE, not born. This black pill excuse of not having the "genetics" is BS. If I were your run-of-the-mill 50-something white male, I'd be 40-50lbs overweight, wear Costco jeans, have a bad haircut, with nose and ear hair that is so long it could be braided and would struggle to see the tip of my cawk when looking down.

Until you get in gym shape and handle your personal style issues and general shyness (around women), you are not maxed out and cannot compare yourself to those of us who have put in the years of work required to be your personal best.

Until you are, your proclamations of not being attractive are platitudes and excuses not to push yourself toward excellence.

Not easy to do as a drained-out wage slave though. I mean I'm more focused on losing weight rather than gaining muscle as it's easier to just eat less. After all, if you can't control your diet, then what can you control?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Don Juan Discussions.
‘Discuss meeting, dating, and attracting women with others. Ask a question or give advice.’.

These wh*re, OF, Porn, tranny & fapping threads need to be moved to ‘Anything Else’. They have nothing to do with ‘DJ Discussions’.

 

[corrector]

Don Juan Discussions.
‘Discuss meeting, dating, and attracting women with others. Ask a question or give advice.’.

These wh*re, OF, Porn, tranny & fapping threads need to be moved to ‘Anything Else’. They have nothing to do with ‘DJ Discussions’.

Stop chadsplaining! BTW: Mentioning the term "tranny" could be construed as a mockery or insult as it was never brought up here (ie for example, only non-human alien greys were as suggested as pretending to be escorts/hookers implying there could be hybrid - alien/humans working as sex workers, but they are capable of working in any industry and have already infiltrated different parts of society). You have to be careful when making accusations like that.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Stop chadsplaining! BTW: Mentioning the term "tranny" could be construed as a mockery or insult as it was never brought up here.

‘tranny’ was pre-emptive.

 

[corrector]

‘tranny’ was pre-emptive.

The concept here is simple. A straight hetrosexual guy wants to get with women. Therefore, that's relevant to the discussion on this thread.
If he can't, then he either might pay for it, or their mind might play elaborate fantasy-tricks so that they will be happy enough and feel as thought they got with women. When you start knocking down copes then it's a bit insensitive.

In an ideal world, every guy gets a girl and no problem right.

Seriously guys. This is my break day. You have most of my break day triggered out.

 

[GoodMan32]

Exactly why I like looking at escort ads. Too many variations of races, sizes, and shapes of women, breasts, nipples, etc... For example, if you are in the mood for a woman with a huge butt, you just go on the ad, find her, and start fapping. I wish I didn't like pictures of women that much. It's like a huge catelogue of women's bodies, not unlike you are professing your love of women because of variations of bodies. The only difference is you have the looks to get women attracted to you, whereas other have to pay or fap at pictures of them. How do you present that as some sort of virtue here then (really a curiousity tone)?

That's right, all sorts of variation in escorts. Which is one reason some guys go the escort route.

Want a thick Latina with a large backside? Even if you're good at picking up a woman in person, there's no guarantee you'll pick up a woman fitting that exact description if you go out to a bar to look for a woman. By going the escort route, however, you can reserve yourself a thick Latina with a large backside.

If, for example, you want a blonde MILF, same idea applies.

Same applies for any variety of woman for that matter.

 

[GoodMan32]

most people aren’t soldiers. Is is insulting to refer to a person as a ‘soldier’?

They are referred to as sanitation engineers’.

The soldier analogy is different. Even though there's some anti-military sentiment in society, soldiers are generally highly respected. Calling someone a soldier isn't an insult.

Escorts, on the other hand, are highly stigmatized.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Not easy to do as a drained-out wage slave though. I mean I'm more focused on losing weight rather than gaining muscle as it's easier to just eat less. After all, if you can't control your diet, then what can you control?

Jesus, man, I know you can't see it right now, but go lift heavy shyte, do it. Controlling your eating habits can be gradual. What do you do with the other 16 hours of the day besides sleep, assuming you do? That still leaves 8 hours? Do you eat 8 hours a day? do 100 pushups a day, even if you need to do them 5 at a time; at the end of a week, you'll be doing 20 at a time. Do 100 situps a day, same rule. You have to start somewhere - telling yourself, "I need to have it be this perfect setup to get started," is simply a way to procrastinate. I know its easier to live in your VR headset, but you're here to make things better aren't you?

Your genetics aren't holding you back; YOU ARE. Again you can't claim they are till you max your potential.

 

[GoodMan32]

Interesting. All of the escorts ads I am fapping about are all 100% nympthos in my mind.

Even when I dealt with them in the past in 2014, they were all great experiences at the moment. Don't know where you guys are finding these "mechanical escorts". The idea is that everybody gets wild and crazy in a session, not mechanical.

Escorts vary. Some get into it, no doubt.

On the flipside, I've also had escorts who rush me. One escort flat-out said "Can you go faster?" (Translation: I really don't want you in me. Let's get this over with ASAP)

 

[GoodMan32]

Don Juan Discussions.
‘Discuss meeting, dating, and attracting women with others. Ask a question or give advice.’.

These wh*re, OF, Porn, tranny & fapping threads need to be moved to ‘Anything Else’. They have nothing to do with ‘DJ Discussions’.

This thread is partially about escorts, yeah.

It's also meant as a general discussion of whether escorts or non-escorts are better.

Furthermore, as I mentioned on a previous post, I'd like to learn shortcuts/cheat codes to do better with non-escorts.

Non-escorts are part of the discussion too.

 

[corrector]

Jesus, man, I know you can't see it right now, but go lift heavy shyte, do it. Controlling your eating habits can be gradual. What do you do with the other 16 hours of the day besides sleep, assuming you do? That still leaves 8 hours? Do you eat 8 hours a day? do 100 pushups a day, even if you need to do them 5 at a time; at the end of a week, you'll be doing 20 at a time. Do 100 situps a day, same rule. You have to start somewhere - telling yourself, "I need to have it be this perfect setup to get started," is simply a way to procrastinate. I know its easier to live in your VR headset, but you're here to make things better aren't you?

Your genetics aren't holding you back; YOU ARE. Again you can't claim they are till you max your potential.

What I do? An assortment of various things depending on the day. That could include, washing dishes, changing mom's dentures, attending to my mother's wishes, prayer, looking at worship/praise videos, looking at Christian teaching content, sometimes, just trying to catch my breath. This leaves only break-times at work (which they don't really give you anything, more like 10 minutes of personal time which is often used taking emergency calls or using the washroom if it's bad, or yelling inside the meditation room if I'm feeling frustrated with the quality of calls). In terms of commute times in train, can't do pushups in the train can I?

Most of the time where I'm available is in the morning, which can get busy real fast if I have to do grocery shopping for the family, be around when the caregiver comes to take care of mom and give her a shower, financial managment, you name it, then get organized for work and pack a lunch.

You mentioned VR-headset? Yeah, I use it twice a week at 15 minutes each time. After 3 consecutive days at work, especially at a call center job, you start getting "wear and tear" over the week. A 15 minute VR-break is taken which where I have various 360 degree travel videos. Last time I visited the Gold Coast of Australia and some other parts of Australia. The previous time it was Vedero beach in Cuba. So I love travelling and that helps create a psychological distance from the work as it felt I went somewhere the next time I show up to work.

Hope that answers your question. In terms of if there is time to do pushups? This place is a total mess and there is no room to do pushups anywhere unless I'm standing up against a wall. I'd have to quit my job for the time it would take to clean up this place. So anyway you dice it, it's not a simple set-up like you may think it is.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

The soldier analogy is different. Even though there's some anti-military sentiment in society, soldiers are generally highly respected. Calling someone a soldier isn't an insult.

Escorts, on the other hand, are highly stigmatized.

as they should be.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

What I do? An assortment of various things depending on the day. That could include, washing dishes, changing mom's dentures, attending to my mother's wishes, prayer, looking at worship/praise videos, looking at Christian teaching content, sometimes, just trying to catch my breath. This leaves only break-times at work (which they don't really give you anything, more like 10 minutes of personal time which is often used taking emergency calls or using the washroom if it's bad, or yelling inside the meditation room if I'm feeling frustrated with the quality of calls). In terms of commute times in train, can't do pushups in the train can I?

Most of the time where I'm available is in the morning, which can get busy real fast if I have to do grocery shopping for the family, be around when the caregiver comes to take care of mom and give her a shower, financial managment, you name it, then get organized for work and pack a lunch.

You mentioned VR-headset? Yeah, I use it twice a week at 15 minutes each time. After 3 consecutive days at work, especially at a call center job, you start getting "wear and tear" over the week. A 15 minute VR-break is taken which where I have various 360 degree travel videos. Last time I visited the Gold Coast of Australia and some other parts of Australia. The previous time it was Vedero beach in Cuba. So I love travelling and that helps create a psychological distance from the work as it felt I went somewhere the next time I show up to work.

Hope that answers your question. In terms of if there is time to do pushups? This place is a total mess and there is no room to do pushups anywhere unless I'm standing up against a wall. I'd have to quit my job for the time it would take to clean up this place. So anyway you dice it, it's not a simple set-up like you may think it is.

Go outside and do them. 5 pushups takes 2 minutes, and a 5’x7’ space. Would you rather put on your headset than get fit? 2x15 is 30 - 30 minutes is enough time for a workout. You can do the workout every other day. Again if you want to do it you will, if you don’t you’ll find every excuse possible not to.

It all boils down to choices.

Everyone is free to make their own choices in life, but they are not free of the consequences of said choices. You reap what you sow.

 

[The Duke]

Don Juan Discussions.
‘Discuss meeting, dating, and attracting women with others. Ask a question or give advice.’.

These wh*re, OF, Porn, tranny & fapping threads need to be moved to ‘Anything Else’. They have nothing to do with ‘DJ Discussions’.

And it continues to degrade the quality of this forum. I'm all for it.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Furthermore, as I mentioned on a previous post, I'd like to learn shortcuts/cheat codes to do better with non-escorts.

You are ADHD. There is no such thing as a cheat code or shortcut. Build it they will come. You’ll get what you deserve, as a man all your life. If you make yourself the best version of you, you will attract a woman at your SMV. The better you are in all aspects, the better a woman you will attract. This isn’t a video game, where you can bring up the console and go god-mode.