I don't think you seen my post, so I'll ask it again. If he would have accepted, how would it make you feel?I offered to pay but he declined.
I don't think you seen my post, so I'll ask it again. If he would have accepted, how would it make you feel?I offered to pay but he declined.
I just wanted to bring some redditt energy to this forum. Nothing personalStrawman, lol. I don't need a man's money, and you're just gonna have to trust me on that!!!
Thanks for being honest. I figured you would say this. You are now the second female on this site to admit to offering to pay, but if the man accepts, it would bother you. Which proves it is a shjt test @SargeMaximusOkay so honestly, back then, it may have bothered me
Me asking this wasn't about this topic. I don't care about the results after the fact. I was just showing from an earlier topic that females unconsciously offer to pay as a shjt test. That's all.Well as I said on a different thread (perhaps you missed?), both genders give shyt tests, sometimes they are intentionally given, sometimes not. I have had many shyt tests given to me by men, believe me.
In the case with my ex, when I offered to pay, I wasn't intentionally shyt testing, I didn't say to myself "I am gonna offer to pay and if he accepts, he's history"!! It wasn't something I consciously thought about, to me it was simply a gracious thing to do - to offer.
However, after the fact, I may have thought about it and it may have bothered me a little, again being honest.
But nevertheless, I was so attracted to him, it wouldn't have affected my continuing to date him.
Attraction and chemistry trumps everything and any woman who dumps a man because he accepted her offer to pay is a woman not all that into him in the first place.
I dunno, why don't we all just start being real with each other and toss out these antiquated shyt tests. Men dumping women if they don't offer to pay and women dumping men when they accept her offer to pay.
Enough already.
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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
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No it doesn’t because I am still having regular sex with my fwb who pays for stuff all the timeThanks for being honest. I figured you would say this. You are now the second female on this site to admit to offering to pay, but if the man accepts, it would bother you. Which proves it is a shjt test @SargeMaximus
Remember, I was referring to first dates with a new person. Of course a FWB isn't testing you. You have already established a connection of some sort. Also, I never said it was a major shjt test. One that would result in automatic rejection. Just a shjt test.No it doesn’t because I am still having regular sex with my fwb who pays for stuff all the time
The test is a beta/provider test. More than likely if a woman is looking for a provider she will be more attracted when he offers to pay despite her offering to pay. And vice versa
True. I try but you’re right.they are never going to get it. You are pissing against the wind.
Then explain to me why a woman would offer to pay for something, but if you accept it would bother her?they are never going to get it. You are pissing against the wind.
Exactly... Bothered you when you offered.It might have bothered me BACK THEN
If you read why I was saying what I did to sarge. When you replied to his retort to my comment. The question should be clear to you.What? I don't even compute your question.
Well I'm here to tell you there is such a magic wand. Something that will make you almost completely irresistible to any woman you "point it" at. Something guaranteed to fill your life with love, romance, and excitement.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
I think if you ask most human beings, "If you are bothered by something, is that good or bad?" They would answer bad.Don't put words in my mouth, I NEVER said it would leave me with negative feelings. I said it might bother me (back then) because of how I was raised, but nevertheless, it would NOT have affected my attraction towards him.
Now you are putting words in my mouth. I'm simply stating it's a shjt test whether you realize it or not.You are acting like it's federal crime to be bothered by something, geez.
Yet you're both females.And please don't relate how the "old lady" @BeExcellent behaves (or thinks) to me, she and I are about as different as two people could ever get.
Except for when it comes to offering to pay, and not feeling good about it if the guys accepts.Exactly, we are both female, NOT robots programmed to think or behave alike.
Then how do you explain this behavior? A beta/provider test is still a shjt test.Classic example of seeing what you want to see and forcing the evidence to fit your internal narrative.
No it isn’t. It’s a test to see if you’re a beta provider. If the woman is looking for a beta provider (some are depending on what stage they are at in their life, doesn’t have anything to do with age but usually it’s linked. Doesn’t have to be. Read Rollo Tomasi for the general trajectory) anyhow if she’s looking for a provider and you show her you are one, she will become attracted. If she is not looking for one then she will lose attraction. Same test but it depends on the girl what result you’ll get.Then how do you explain this behavior? A beta/provider test is still a shjt test.
You're assuming I have blue pill mindset like a lot of others on here. You obviously haven't read a lot of my posts. All I'm saying, is that's the driver behind females offering to pay. It's a shjt test. I agree with you on the seeing tests aspect. I believe a masculine enough man will not be subject to shjt tests as others would be. It doesn't discount the fact that females are still doing them. BTW my strategy is pnd or plate spinning.If you believe that ****e you are operating in her paradigm and not your own.
A man who goes for what he wants doesn't even see "tests"
comply or goodbye. Simple as.
You need to change your chip.
pump n dumpI don't know what pnd means.
That’s not a sh!t test though. It’s more like oh, she seems selfish and entitled, I’m not interested. A sh!t test would be a man grabbing the bill as soon as it arrives and then dumping the woman unless she wrestles it back from him. I doubt you would ever see a man doing that.Okay that's fair. Same with men dumping women for not offering to pay (as per the OP). Goes both ways, however this is a men's site so y'all continue patting each other on the back and I will politely leave.
It is not about the money, which is irrelevant. It is about setting the right tone: valuing yourself, expecting reciprocity, not pandering, not putting women on a pedestal. I set the rules for my interactions, not wider society or entitled women.More like to alot of us $10 to $20 isnt even worth the mental energy of thinking about it. I would only demand the girl pays if she is either rude or obviously not into me and we ran up a big drinks tab.
A coffee date is lame asf anyways. If im going out its going to be to have drinks and have fun.
You guys are seriously emitting some strong poverty energy in here. Most of my first dates always end in lays probably because i dont emit poor person energy like you guys lmao.
yep, crying over 10-20 bucks is such strong frame lmaoIt is not about the money, which is irrelevant. It is about setting the right tone: valuing yourself, expecting reciprocity, not pandering, not putting women on a pedestal. I set the rules for my interactions, not wider society or entitled women.
Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.