Depressing reddit post - what advice can be given to the masses of men in this situation?

[MatureDJ]

That can certainly transfer over to real life. I've seen even decent looking guys getting rejected by horrendous looking women.

Even at bars, men can be so desperate to go for ugly women as they think that less men will be into them and less competition. Women are just far more picky overall and many men are absolutely desperate.

Ironically, I've often found hot women to be far more down to earth and friendly than average and below women.

Juggernaut law

Juggernaut law is the theory that the very most unattractive women receive a surprisingly large amount of attention from men, sometimes more attention than women...

incels.wiki

 

[MatureDJ]

Frankly, women have to put in effort if they want men to Too Hthem desirable also. Case in point: Kathleen Turner. She started boozing, drugging, and living a generally unhealthy life right as her star was on the rise during The 80s. By '91, she was a punchline, and has remained so ever since

The only effort women have to do is to respond:

Tee hee, I'll be at SomeFancyPlace at 7:00 Friday evening.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I think that for a lot of men, the only time that they get approached by decently attractive women is at a strip joint or brothel (or a night-club that is known to be a bit of a brothel).

Could be worse. My stripclubcel friend got un-approaced at a strip club.

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

This is total nonsense

Then why are many average and below women extremely picky and get inundated on apps?

 

[BaronOfHair]

Then why are many average and below women extremely picky and get inundated on apps?

Spend less time trying to make linear sense out of anything a woman does(That's more of a losing proposition than trying to persuade the Haitians down the street to take up burgers and fries, rather cat and plantains)and more time focused on becoming the most awesome version of you

 

[Bingo-Player]

Then why are many average and below women extremely picky and get inundated on apps?

Forget about apps its a cess pit of bad behaviour and terrible dating practices

You grow a pair of balls and go talk to any 5/6/7 in bar anywhere in the world and the outcome will be a lot different

Apps are just skewed versions of reality

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

Forget about apps its a cess pit of bad behaviour and terrible dating practices

You grow a pair of balls and go talk to any 5/6/7 in bar anywhere in the world and the outcome will be a lot different

Apps are just skewed versions of reality

Plenty of guys already have your belief about average women, even in bars and other places, where they'll be less picky and more down to earth and the hot ones are completely unobtainable. It isn't just on the apps.

 

[BaronOfHair]

The only effort women have to do is to respond:

A fair amount of effort is required to get and maintain a body this scrumptious https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...about-glenn-powell.281280/page-3#post-3116467

I'm starting to wonder if you, GoodMan, and corrector are all the same person. All three of you have an admittedly remarkable capacity for churning out shallow rationalizations the way Andy Huggins

dishes out riotous one-liners

 

[BaronOfHair]

Plenty of guys already have your belief about average women, even in bars and other places, where they'll be less picky and more down to earth and the hot ones are completely unobtainable

"Unobtainable" in this case being defined as:

"I approached one-two gals who were Pre-Woke SI material in an garrishly overpriced nightclub on a Friday night, where the trap house muzak blaring out of the speakers barely let's you hear YOURSELF think... They didn't drop trow and do me right there even though this is how it happens in Connery and Moore-era Bond flicks, therfore I concluded that the dating market in modern day America is more horrendous than Mogadishu during the early 90s, and remain glued to that conclusion"

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

"Unobtainable" in this case being defined as:

"I approached one-two gals who were Pre-Woke SI material in an garrishly overpriced nightclub on a Friday night, where the trap house muzak blaring out of the speakers barely let's you hear YOURSELF think... They didn't drop trow and do me right there even though this is how it happens in Connery and Moore-era Bond flicks, therfore I concluded that the dating market in modern day America is more horrendous than Mogadishu during the early 90s, and remain glued to that conclusion"

Nope, not approached a woman in person since 2012.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Then why are many average and below women extremely picky and get inundated on apps?

You're answering your own question. Because they are on apps.

Like I said before, but perhaps I didn't make it clear:

Correction, that is solely on apps, not in real life. In reality, unattractive women are a lot less stuck up in person

And, really, who cares what these women think of themselves? Isn't it up to you what you think of them?
Don't want to date them? Then don't date them.
Don't want to feed them their entitlement? Don't swipe right on them, don't engage them in conversation, don't give them attention.
It's that easy.

In real life, I just ignore unattractive people. There's enough attractive people walking around to distract me from wondering why unattractive people are entitled on apps.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Nope, not approached a woman in person since 2012.

Keep on as you have. You'll be modern dating and mating's answer to The DEA https://www.salon.com/2023/07/09/th...ter-are-deadlier-and-more-abundant-than-ever/

Not even an effectiveness rate of less than 1% will prompt either of you to investigate and deconstruct your beliefs

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

Keep on as you have. You'll be modern dating and mating's answer to The DEA https://www.salon.com/2023/07/09/th...ter-are-deadlier-and-more-abundant-than-ever/

Not even an effectiveness rate of less than 1% will prompt either of you to investigate and deconstruct your beliefs

Why is it necessarily an issue?

 

[BaronOfHair]

Why is it necessarily an issue?

It's a tragedy for you, and inconsequential for the rest of us

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

It's a tragedy for you, and inconsequential for the rest of us

It isn't a tragedy for me. I've never needed to approach.

 

[Solomon]

"I'm smiling at a beautiful apple with a totally rotten core."
And then widen your smile and wait for her response, which will be either amused or angry.
Regardless of her response, you can say, "Are you going to prove me wrong?"

This is some A+ Game I can see Amsterdam has that wit, man sir if you're free in 2025/2026 when I come to Amsterdam I gotta buy you a couple pints!

Forget about apps its a cess pit of bad behaviour and terrible dating practices

You grow a pair of balls and go talk to any 5/6/7 in bar anywhere in the world and the outcome will be a lot different

Apps are just skewed versions of reality

This is the main issue to many guys are just dealing with women on swipe apps on here. IMO at 40 I don't care for the club/bar but If I was younger I would still do that(I retired at 37). I think to answer @CheekyMonkey101 you're better of living a lifestyle and having a social circle. Easier said than done trust me I know as I recently had a falling out with mine. However, I will say this, if you work on yourself, learn social mastery, improve your living situation. It makes meeting women easier. I can tell you that I have met/dated far hotter women in social circle game than on apps where those women wouldn't have given me a chance.

Once again I know it's easier said than done but average guys do it all day every day and you actually have a higher success rate doing that than meeting women on apps who you barley attracted to if at all

 

[BaronOfHair]

I've never needed to approach.

You're a 21st Century Svengali then. Impressive

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

This is some A+ Game I can see Amsterdam has that wit, man sir if you're free in 2025/2026 when I come to Amsterdam I gotta buy you a couple pints!

I know just the place.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Tell them to travel overseas. Western women are ruined by feminism and the state encourages it.

That shvt exists overseas unless you are travelling to remote places like Tibet.

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

You're a 21st Century Svengali then. Impressive

All I'm saying is that not all men need to approach.