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Depressing reddit post - what advice can be given to the masses of men in this situation?

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I don’t think it is binary. As if one had to choose to be the ‘hunter or hunted’. Nor do I think ‘these men’ are a particular group. Being approached is just a thing that happens on occasion. Just part of life. I don’t think it affects whether one leads or follows in other aspects of a relationship.
You know, 'these men' are one particular group that often complain about not getting approached or IOIs or don't take action. I hope you understand what I’m hinting at.

But I get what you mean about how being approached or not doesn’t influence relationship dynamics. Thanks for elaborating!
 
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Get rid of the self defeatist attitude

Stop lusting over online women way way way out of their leauge

Stop watching p*rn

Get a skill in something

Learn to cook / dance / sing / play guitar whatever ( these hobbies are like chick crack )

Start fishing in shallower waters , there are PLENTY of 4/5/6's out there who are getting ZERO male attention because they physically can't compete with the more attractive women

Earlier I the year I randomly ended up living with a HB5 redhead ok she wasn't going to win any beauty awards but she was a decent girl and with a bit of makeup would defenitley get someone going

in the 6 months I lived with her she got a grand total of 1 date , I fvcked 6 different women in the same period

These girls are not difficult to please and will give equal effort if you've got fvck all experience with women this is where you have to start like it or not.
Often, the 4s, 5s and 6s can be extremely picky as many men have the attitude that they will be easier due to getting less attention than more attractive women. This is known as "Juggernaut theory".
 

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Fvcking incels again:

Such an awesome word and meaning attached at something so cringe as an incel 'theory' on ugly women getting more attention from men. Right. Sure. Whatever, dud.
There is a lot of truth to it. Look at the amount of attention hideous/average women get on apps. Often, they're even more stuck up.
 

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Correction, that is solely on apps, not in real life. In reality, unattractive women are a lot less stuck up in person.

Just because social media encourages 'body positivity' and 'fat acceptance' doesn't mean that society changes their beauty standards. Ugly women don't get more attention than average looking women unless you count mockery and freakish desires like feeders on dating apps.
That can certainly transfer over to real life. I've seen even decent looking guys getting rejected by horrendous looking women.

Even at bars, men can be so desperate to go for ugly women as they think that less men will be into them and less competition. Women are just far more picky overall and many men are absolutely desperate.

Ironically, I've often found hot women to be far more down to earth and friendly than average and below women.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Often, the 4s, 5s and 6s can be extremely picky as many men have the attitude that they will be easier due to getting less attention than more attractive women. This is known as "Juggernaut theory".
This is total nonsense
 

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A man is wise to calibrate his expectations: If he's expecting his kill count to be comparable to that of The Rat Pack's at the height of their fame, then no... That's not likely to happen, nor frankly SHOULD it. TRP was doing all that s-it in a world that was Pre-AIDS, and those days have been gone for at least 40 years now

"There are a lot of guys that will make some progress in self-improvement but not nearly enough to be competitive in one of the harshest sexual marketplaces in history"

It's tough out there sometimes, that said, today's environment sure as hell beats the first several centuries of our species, where guys gained and lost their women via tribal raids and killing off potential rivals. For all the obstacles we face here in '24, there's ample cause to be grateful as well
Well, the idea that was that it was REALLY OVER for a lot of men (i.e., dying in battle), but the ones that survived had a cornucopia of poon.
 

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You know how humiliating it is to never have a girl approach you and say you're handsome,’

This only happens if one is very good looking. Most men are not very good looking. Hence. most men will not experience: ‘a girl approach you and say you're handsome,’.

My guess is he has a very good looking friend & he expects, since it’s happened to his friend, it will happen to him.
What is even worse is when the only ones that do this are extraordinarily fat & nasty. :mad: :mad:
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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I had a group of girls approached me....while I was in the Military....I was at that mall hallways and I was thinking of something really funny in my head and I had a huge smile on my face....... and they all said....' Hey you must be one really happy dude...' haha.....

Could be your vibe also that attracts them...if you won a million bucks that day, a girl could spot that a mile away.
I once smiled at an attractive chick, and she nastily snarled back, "what are you smiling at?". :mad:
 

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Frankly, women have to put in effort if they want men to find them desirable also. Case in point: Kathleen Turner. She started boozing, drugging, and living a generally unhealthy life right as her star was on the rise during The 80s. By '91, she was a punchline, and has remained so ever since
She was quite hot back in the day, although I could tell that she was a bit flat for her general physique.

Now? YIKES! :eek::eek:
 

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My experience has been that being approached has little to do with being passive or being relaxed (or being happy).
I like being approached. It’s a nice dopamine rush.
I think that for a lot of men, the only time that they get approached by decently attractive women is at a strip joint or brothel (or a night-club that is known to be a bit of a brothel). :(
 

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That can certainly transfer over to real life. I've seen even decent looking guys getting rejected by horrendous looking women.

Even at bars, men can be so desperate to go for ugly women as they think that less men will be into them and less competition. Women are just far more picky overall and many men are absolutely desperate.

Ironically, I've often found hot women to be far more down to earth and friendly than average and below women.
 

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Frankly, women have to put in effort if they want men to Too Hthem desirable also. Case in point: Kathleen Turner. She started boozing, drugging, and living a generally unhealthy life right as her star was on the rise during The 80s. By '91, she was a punchline, and has remained so ever since
The only effort women have to do is to respond:
Tee hee, I'll be at SomeFancyPlace at 7:00 Friday evening.
 

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I think that for a lot of men, the only time that they get approached by decently attractive women is at a strip joint or brothel (or a night-club that is known to be a bit of a brothel). :(
Could be worse. My stripclubcel friend got un-approaced at a strip club.
 

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Then why are many average and below women extremely picky and get inundated on apps?
Spend less time trying to make linear sense out of anything a woman does(That's more of a losing proposition than trying to persuade the Haitians down the street to take up burgers and fries, rather cat and plantains)and more time focused on becoming the most awesome version of you
 

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Then why are many average and below women extremely picky and get inundated on apps?
Forget about apps its a cess pit of bad behaviour and terrible dating practices

You grow a pair of balls and go talk to any 5/6/7 in bar anywhere in the world and the outcome will be a lot different

Apps are just skewed versions of reality
 

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Forget about apps its a cess pit of bad behaviour and terrible dating practices

You grow a pair of balls and go talk to any 5/6/7 in bar anywhere in the world and the outcome will be a lot different

Apps are just skewed versions of reality
Plenty of guys already have your belief about average women, even in bars and other places, where they'll be less picky and more down to earth and the hot ones are completely unobtainable. It isn't just on the apps.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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