Everyone is shiitting on everyone in the space.
Krauser has shiit on John Anthony/JMULV and Caleb Jones (Blackdragon).
John Anthony has shiit on Rollo, Todd V, and others.
It's not easy to determine who has value and who does not.
haha, it's all part of the fun
Eventually you realise that they're kind of all frauds. Jesse is right there, although he's yeat to realise the same applies to JA.
You really only have to watch most of their infields and assuming you have normal social skills and are somewhat perceptive, you can see that they're kind of odd interactions and the girls seem to think so too a lot of the time.
For Some of them it's because they're so stuck on this idea that certain techniques and stuff are akin to magic, and so they have unnatural looking conversation as they're trying to cram in their NLP routines (Ross jefferies) or stick to their regimented stacks (mystery) or use their cringey cold reads where they compare every girl too a fluffy animal (krawuser and the LondonDayGamers).
For others it's just because they're just a bit awkward and stuff (john anthony for example)
Sometimes I think the community is still going because everyone is STILL looking for the next thing. The method or verbal trick
that will fullfill the promise that PUA gave us.
Mysterymethod used to be mega popular but because it was like the first mainstream method in a way. But it's kind of ridiculed now. People couldn't make it work including mystery himself (you ever seen HIS infields?!! Results, or lack of, speak for themselves). It died out. Enough time has gone by that there's no reason we can't all go out tonight and use his script word for word. In the old days the excuse was that 'who lies more, men or women' was becoming a known pickup line. I'm confident that 20 years later, that's not the case.
People are still hoping a coach is gonna come along who is ugly and short and everything else, but who goes home with dimes everynight because of his game
For a while, Tyler was the posterboy for that. I actually quite like Tyler (certainly has a lot more Game thatn JOhn anthony)
But let's be real. If the great Tyler came out with me this weekend, I know he'd have about a 2% chance of going home with some hot 18 year old. I respect that he's had some success with girls out of his league, but he's done it using the same method that i've used to acchieve the same. Hella numbers game! It's barely a 'skill'. There's kind of no such thing as actual 'seduction/persuasion''.
There are some PUA's who I know would destroy me, but it's not because of their game. People like Coach Kyle could legitimately get laid a fair bit. Fairly decent looking, and he has 'game'. By that I mean, he just comes across as normal and not super uptight, and he can flirt etc. It's not hard. I think my game is as good as his, tbh. MaxRSD had some great infields in his course, but none of it was 'game'. Oother than being short, he's a good looking dude. Especially when the natrual was filmed. And ALL of his actual lays in that product came about from girls who either approached HIM or gave him massive IOI's. ps - It's basically the same in Coach Kyles course, too. His lays are super strong 'yes girls'. It's just the way it is! But admitting that forces us to question just how 'real' game even is, or at least how effective the stuff we all know is lol
So yeah, they all $hit on each other (and none more than John anthony), but kind of for good reason