Dating Gurus' Ugly Girlfriends and Wives exposed

[CornbreadFed]

For one, no, hot girls do not magically have worse personalities, that is cope.

“hot” is too subjective to make a direct statement over. I will be honest and say most men do not know what hot really is and just label women either ugly or hot. If you are not in Los Angeles at the least, you have no credibility saying you are slaying 9s and 10s like candy living some suburb of Cleveland, Ohio lol. Most 9s and 10s might as well be mythical creatures to the average guy because they live completely different lives than us. True 9s and 10s get monetized pretty early on and move to the hot global cities of the world. Now, I have met and know a few people that meet this criteria and their personalities are trash lol. They definitely think the world revolves around them and it shows in their basic conversational skills.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

Second, John Anthony Lifestyle is a 6'4 white dude with blue eyes, by that raw potential alone he slays.

C'mon....

Then add to that the guy is known for slaying and doing well even amongst people that hate him. PUAs he has beefed with have said they hate him but his game gets results.

I wouldn't disagree with this. However, for one, "results" are highly subjective. The ends don't always justify the means. And that girl at the end, the great reveal, is an 8 from what I could see.

Just by watching that video, you can tell everything you need to know about this guy. Alpha yes. But quite clearly a narcissistic manipulator amongst other things. And very toxic. Dude would probably bang your underage sister if there was an opportunity for it.

 

[characternote]

but his game gets results.

How are you defining his game out of interest?
Like I say, he hates basically every outergame technique the community knows of and ridicules the coaches who use it (pushpulls, cold reads, setting premise, qualification/disqualification etc )
The only thing he seems to endorce is DHV stories (so that's why he pretends to be a DJ or something in each set)

But other than that, what about his 'game' are you talking about? I'm curious. What things that he says and does do you think are things that are powerful attraction builders and get good results?

I feel like his 'game' is being tall, telling girls they are cute, and offering drunk girls free drinks for his 'friends' birthday party that they are going too. I'm not even against that, but how is that impressive to anyone? It's what guys already do who haven't heard of PUA etc

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

You had very little credibility, now you have none.
I agree with the first part though.

I have far more credibility on here than you. Stop making it personal just because you are too immature for a healthy debate, stupid.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

C'mon....


I wouldn't disagree with this. However, for one, "results" are highly subjective. The ends don't always justify the means. And that girl at the end, the great reveal, is an 8 from what I could see.

Just by watching that video, you can tell everything you need to know about this guy. Alpha yes. But quite clearly a narcissistic manipulator amongst other things. And very toxic. Dude would probably bang your underage sister if there was an opportunity for it.

Results are not "highly subjective" lol.

When you have clowns like Rollo who spend most of their days debating red pill theory, guys like John are a freaking god. Results are just that, results. Who has slept with the most hot girls, plain and simple.

Meanwhile, the red pill is too busy with MGTOW BS and other coping to make guys into bitter dudes who hate women and are too busy rationalizing than going out there taking action. Lay count with hot girls, that is ALL that matters. This means Rollo has zero credibility compared to a John Anthony.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

How are you defining his game out of interest?
Like I say, he hates basically every outergame technique the community knows of and ridicules the coaches who use it (pushpulls, cold reads, setting premise, qualification/disqualification etc )
The only thing he seems to endorce is DHV stories (so that's why he pretends to be a DJ or something in each set)

But other than that, what about his 'game' are you talking about? I'm curious. What things that he says and does do you think are things that are powerful attraction builders and get good results?

I feel like his 'game' is being tall, telling girls they are cute, and offering drunk girls free drinks for his 'friends' birthday party that they are going too. I'm not even against that, but how is that impressive to anyone? It's what guys already do who haven't heard of PUA etc

TBH, I care less about game than I do results.

Dude has a system, he talks about the importance of it and yeah, that is pretty important.

Dude has a high lay count, that is literally all that matters.

Results matter.

I will always take advice from a guy who has been there and done that over some clown like Rollo who just argues and acts tough on youtube, I mean go look at his beef with Aba and Preach, Rollo got annihilated.

 

[kavi]

Women **** guys like JAL because they are not happy with the leadership of society. All female sexual behaviours reflect social Leadership. If women are sleeping with trash like JAL it is only to disrespect the leadership. Hence guys like JAL present very low, toxic, sleazy Game because to sleep with that type of guy is to disrespect leadership, it is the biggest FU to the leadership.

Deep down these women hate society and this you can see from all the women out there who talk about anxiety, the drug addictions, lack of good relationships etc atleast Kavi has seen it from ALL the women around him that he observes in London, lack of confidence, insecurity, coldness, lack of optimism, negativity etc.

So it is important to know that JAL is simply profiting from the incompetence of leadership and the unhappiness of women. For a real man with real game and confidence and knowlge can see nothing of value in JAL or his 'weak' Game. Now Kavi will tell you it is better for a mans soul to go p2p than to run JAL 'Game' for p2p is simply less costly when taking EVERYTHING into account.

 

[characternote]

TBH, I care less about game than I do results.

Dude has a system, he talks about the importance of it and yeah, that is pretty important.

Dude has a high lay count, that is literally all that matters.

Results matter.

I will always take advice from a guy who has been there and done that over some clown like Rollo who just argues and acts tough on youtube, I mean go look at his beef with Aba and Preach, Rollo got annihilated.

I think I know what you're saying. And I also am not remotely impressed by Rollo and them oldschool Redpill dudes either

But when you consider you talk about how good his game apparently it yet he essentially dismisses game, then are his results even relevant? i mean, I have friends who are handsome as hell who would DESTROY any PUA coach i've ever seen and likely anyone on this forum, but there's nothing I can learn from him. He doesn't even have 'game', tbh

I just couldn't say 'his game works' in a conversation about john anthony. He doesn't appear to even believe in game (and possibly rightly so)
There's lots of people who say he's an outright fraud whose been exposed by that Sonny dude to have been using sugar babes and even paying girls to be in infields and targets for his students etc.

But assuuming he is getting laid, it's nothing to do with his game. That's all i'm saying (more moving country, being very tall, having money when everyone else is broke, and playing extreme numbers game)

I could certainly teach anyone his outergame game in about 5 sentences though, ,in anyone wants to save some money from buying his course! However, don't expect it to start getting you girls with any more regularity than if you used literally any other method

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I’m NorCal the land of the 49’ers 4’s that think they’re 9’s. If you want a rude awakening switch the location of uour OLD app to Scottsdale or Austin from your NorCal location. It’s ridiculous how the quality of what your shown increases 2-3 SMV points instantly.

Scottsdale and Tempe were my hunting grounds for a few years - plenty of talent from coeds to MILFS.

I don't think AZ has the dumbest women in the USA. Think about New Mexico, and the Deep South. Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, and Louisiana are likely dumber.

AZ has a lot of good looking women. Consider the campuses of Arizona State University and University of Arizona. A lot of the pretty women there are in-state students.

The bars in Old Town Scottsdale have a lot of pretty 20 somethings, same with the Mill Avenue bars in Tempe.

Good looking women with bad attitudes are common in Arizona. There are many hotties in Arizona that don't have much going for them.



True

 

[BoostedArrow]

Do you even know the history JAL and Rollo/Donovan/Rich Cooper/ John MLD etc. share?

If not, you have a lot of homework to do. JAL hates everyone, bc. all those guys figured out he's trash and stopped working with him. So now he's throwing a tantrum. (even 4 years after)

It's just a lowblow.
JAL is responsible for doxxing Rollo's family, especially his daughter, which just shows what a weak ***** he is.

Also sucking up to JAL is fcking retarded, he claims to have a notch count of 1500. Yet even sb like Stirling Cooper who was a pornstar doesn't even have such numbers. JAL is more fake than the ass of Kim Kardashian.


Also: Rollo doesn't have courses. He just sells his books. (He also has his Patreon, and offers 1on1, but he doesn't force you that down your throat.) While JAL has 1800$ Courses.

Who's the bigger shill here?

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

Results are not "highly subjective" lol.

Lay count with hot girls, that is ALL that matters.

You see, I disagree with this above statement and I'm probably in the top 0.1% of men when it comes to lay counts.

When you have clowns like Rollo who spend most of their days debating red pill theory, guys like John are a freaking god.

Funny thing, back in the day, once Rollo was getting established, there were very people who dared to question or disagree with Master Rollo. And, low and behold, now, all the push back against him elevates clowns like this guy, John. Although, these guys are two different sides of the coin <------that, I highly agree on.

Anyway, I re-watched the video to double check my initial take on the guy.

Changed my mind on his girlfriend, she does look like a 9 IMO. I originally picked up some man-jaw vibes but didn't see those the 2nd time around.

But this. Out of all his non-stop trashing/spewing/bragging, this statement takes the cake:

"this is my girlfriend from Brazil, keep in mind she's just one of three girls living with me. This is my actual girlfriend. The other 2 are just side girls we have threesomes and foursomes with. We also have 9 or 10 girls on regular threesome rotation.....blah blah blah....and I have like a 15 girl side rotation..."

And he's claiming these are all beautiful women.

How is that even remotely possible? You can't honestly believe what he's saying here is true.

 

[Bokanovsky]

How do you know he has a high lay count? Because he said so? Then I'm telling you that my lay count is 10 000, I must have a system that works and of course I'm not a scam. Why? Because I said so.

Come on Jessy, you're pathetic, it's ridiculous.
Wake up man

For about $500, I can hire a Brazilian hooker, do a photoshoot where she's pretending to be my girlfriend, and then record a YouTube video where I claim that my lay count in 1537 and that I "take my lay count verify seriously". Maybe I should do it just to fvck with Pinkster. He sounds like the kind of guy who would believe anything.

 

[kavi]

But I think JAL is 'smart' as he uses beef to stay relevant and get views and followers. He seems to know alot about staying relevant but his Game is just about high effort and hard work but without knowledge or expertise.

Also I rate his gf a 6/7. 8+ needs to be tall 5ft 7+ and on top of that personality and standards which if a girl had that would not be impressed by JAL 'Game' ie what he did in the posted video talking to the college chick there was nothing there but normie bar talk "where u live, wat u doing sunday, come meet me sunday, ur hot, come meet me sunday, where do u live".

 

[CornbreadFed]

For about $500, I can hire a Brazilian hooker, do a photoshoot where she's pretending to be my girlfriend, and then record a YouTube video where I claim that my lay count in 1537 and that I "take my lay count verify seriously". Maybe I should do it just to fvck with Pinkster. He sounds like the kind of guy who would believe anything.

isn’t so coincidental that all of their gfs tend to be Eastern European or Latin American with hooker bodies?

 

[Barrister]

25+ years is a huge accomplishment. Other than apps and the internet, I don’t think dating at its core has changed.

By itself, longevity of a relationship means absolutely nothing. If you are a high earner, you can keep around a b1tchy wife forever until the day you die if you want to because she is smart enough to know she shouldn't leave after a certain age because she won't do any better. What really matters is the quality of said relationship. Does she defer to you? Does she suck your d1ck fairly often still? This is far more important than being married unhappily for 25 years.

And you can have both. It is possible despite what some (on here too) will tell you. But there is no doubt it is very rare and hard to keep things this way over the course of years.

 

[CornbreadFed]

By itself, longevity of a relationship means absolutely nothing. If you are a high earner, you can keep around a b1tchy wife forever until the day you die if you want to because she is smart enough to know she shouldn't leave after a certain age because she won't do any better. What really matters is the quality of said relationship. Does she defer to you? Does she suck your d1ck fairly often still? This is far more important than being married unhappily for 25 years.

And you can have both. It is possible despite what some (on here too) will tell you. But there is no doubt it is very rare and hard to keep things this way over the course of years.

Rollo has a family and a business to run. I would assume he has gown past these novice level expectations as a whole.

 

[Barrister]

Rollo has a family and a business to run. I would assume he has gown past these novice level expectations as a whole.

"Novice level expectations" eh? Not sure if that is some indirect dig at me, but if you think you have it figured out otherwise then more power to you. I know nothing about Rollo personally at this point. I know he wrote a masterpiece about a decade ago. Maybe he has lost sight of things since then or maybe the man is a relationship-genius. I couldn't care less about that. Nor does a sample of 1 mean anything as to what I posted before.

 

[CornbreadFed]

"Novice level expectations" eh? Not sure if that is some indirect dig at me, but if you think you have it figured out otherwise then more power to you. I know nothing about Rollo personally at this point. I know he wrote a masterpiece about a decade ago. Maybe he has lost sight of things since then or maybe the man is a relationship-genius. I couldn't care less about that. Nor does a sample of 1 mean anything as to what I posted before.

Idk I just find it absurd to automatically discredit a 25+ year marriage over getting your d1ck sucked. The fact that I have ended relationships when I was still getting my knob slobbed on consistently still says how ridiculous this is lol. These are novice level expectations because other things start to become more important as the relationship? For example, knowing how to effectively run a household, helping raise the kids, maintaining steady and healthy employment, and etc. I get it that getting your knob slobbed on is great and important, but you if you think that is one of the most important expectations in a relationship then I have to heavily disagree.

 

[Barrister]

Idk I just find it absurd to automatically discredit a 25+ year over getting your d1ck sucked. The fact that I have ended relationships when I was still getting my knob slobbed on consistently still says how ridiculous this is lol. These are novice level expectations because other things start to become more important as the relationship? For example, knowing how to effectively run a household, helping raise the kids, maintaining steady and healthy employment, and etc. I get it that getting your knob slobbed on is great and important, but you if you think that is one of the most important expectations in a relationship then I have to heavily disagree.

I phrased it as getting blown - but yes, I DO think regular sex is incredibly high on the list of important expectations in an LTR. And kudos to you that you have never let things get to that point. In the past when I was blue pilled, I let things get to that point. The sex had dried up, she wanted to argue nonstop and challenge me, etc. I ended the relationship. But I have complete confidence in saying I could have kept my first wife in my life for as long as I wanted. I could have stayed married to her unhappily for 60 years and died having only been married to one woman had I wanted to. But the relationship was awful - and I was not going to do that. I finally had enough, and shortly thereafter, found this place, and my whole life change for the better.

That is my point. Longevity, by itself, means nothing. I don't consider blue pilled guys' marriages that have been going for multiple decades "success stories." Quality is so much more important. I am obviously glossing over details intentionally because I am not going to write a book in this thread.

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

Tbh my best relationships have been where the girl is slightly below me in looks and she knows it. Women like to look up to men in order to respect them in relationships..

Although I can understand what he's saying.