Both of them recognize that sex=marriage so neither would have as many options as modern people.
People that grow up in a "sex=marriage" environment have options, but they sort through their options differently.
But the flip side is the idea of "sex=marriage" is back when most people believed that (or at least the majority of their social circle) so that there was a strong external pressure to KEEP the marriage together (e.g. work through difficulties).
The whole idea of marriage was back when few people played around, and few people got divorced.
I would guess that girls who had a genuine "my pvssy is only for marriage" would have a pretty low divorce rate, as they (nor their husbands) would treat marriage casually.
A girl that really BELIEVES "my pvssy is for marriage" wouldn't likely cheat, unless her personality changed significantly during the marriage (e.g. third world girl becoming westernized etc.)
I am currently dating, à women who is westernized and quite christian (extreme) and is in first expériences of dating although she's an adult.
Gotta say, I am happy with her.
Last night, we had à deep serious talk almost an argument... about sex and marriage.
For her marriage is : 1) access to sex 2) access to living together 3) promise to god etc...
She was raised that even kissing was prohibited before mariage.
As we date (7months soon) she's physically more open to me... but nothing sexual other than kissing. (yes she submitted to me on that)
Last night, it was me basically telling her i am going crazy, my testostérone is ****ing my brain.
Yes marriage is quite à commitment, but it doesnt guarante 1) happines 2) that we can live together....
Its truth: look at divorce raté (even after 50 years marriage), or LTR that fails when people moving in together.
Its one Damn big leap of faith with no knowledge and full of questions. She goes on about we will make it, divorce is not an option, that why we dating to screen, look at all the christian who date for 5years without sex etc...
Everyone here knows: you are guaranted nothing other than results of your actions.
I've told her: you are àt your first.. it's normal its the most important and marking one.. so normal you wait.. like a teen girl with her first boyfriend.. however, i've been around... and sex is part of GF/BF life and making its REAL... to know that passions ain't blinding us in fairy tale Land and than after mariage we are: "that's it?"
She even told me how woman find their "husband" after marriage différent from the man they married. (red flag for expérience DJ).
Anyway, waiting this long and still waiting made me know: I am in for her personality, brain, inner beauty, faith.. but that sex is also important but not the driver.
People are marrying for love now, not duty or ressources. Choices are endless... and I told her: it's possible for me to find à girl like you that would accept sex... but I am here with you.
You are in or not, I need to feel its réal.
Physically, she keep barriers still and no touch rules.. that hurts me all the time. I know where she's coming from but there is Damn limits.
In the end: only issue is we are not married.. but why marry someone you don't know intimately... and how you know someone intimately? By being intimate and in their zone (like under the same roof)
We all know that, we all lived the: being together 5 years at 2 times à week, but didnt survive the moving in.
She feel i pressured her alot, indeed sex talk been pretty présent and needy from me in our dating. I've keep frame, but kept pushing and talking about it (cause it bothers me).... it might give good or bad results.. but it also tells me she's in for me. (and not some hitting the wall)
She does sort stuff differently, but she never tasted anything outside of it (pure and innocence) but she has expectations... expectations needs filling otherwise.. ouch and here come frame battles.
I read à part of the bible in the corinthian section about pleasure of the body and marriage: they were mentionning how people were promiscious (sleeping around)
Heck my gf even said: there is no proof Mary mother of god was virgin because engaged Jews have sex before mariage.
Still, they mentionned how living your passions should be in married life but married man should be single/alone once in a while. Etc..
This marriage and sex talk remind me of this movie scène (dont know the movie or scene) about à elderly man in a Ball (dance bal for the rich) ask this young lady for a dance, than he hits on her.. the young lady says: my lord, I am married.
The answer of the old man: "It's a unfornate circumstance but, let me tell you, how marriage for woman of the past was the gateway to sexual liberty"
End of my rant lol.