Well, of course I am VERY sorry to hear that you think I'm a "fvcking jerk-off" and a "piece of shivt" for acting on my carnal male instincts and embracing my masculinity, but I don't see why other people's business causes you so much grief. I hope you find your peace, someday.Falcon25 said:Just a shot away, the fact that you even wrote this shows how much of a piece of shivt you are. Now, everyone on this forum knows everything they need to know about you, and they haven't even met you. You are a disgrace to every man out there. I hope this kid seriously hurts you. You have mental problems that are beyond an internet forum. Good luck banging another man's wife.
Before I got older and wiser about the way things actually work in relationships, I once thought that random dudes would respect another person's marriage enough to not interfere with it. I figured THAT would go without saying. I've since learned better, and now so have you.Just a Shot Away said:You know, I almost put in the disclaimer of "no lame jokes" and "no moral judgment replies please", but I figured that would go without saying...
It's funny you think there's endless judgments of your morality in this thread. I don't think there's enough. If there were, I wouldn't have felt inclined to take on the responsibility of dealing it out myself. Some of the worst judgments in this thread were NOT over the fact that you're cheating with a married woman, but that the husband's in the military. Fair enough, although I don't personally believe the military aspect makes a huge difference. It's his job he signed a contract to do... he wasn't drafted against his will and just because he's overseas does not necessarily mean he's in harm's way.Just a Shot Away said:and now there's not a single piece of advice on how to deal with this problem; only endless judgments on my own morality and painfully obvious "jokes" about the situation. Well, now that we've arrived at this point I might as well address some of the accusations.
1) She says he's a piece of garbage and that she endures emotional/physical abuse. She also says she's in-love with you. She probably also says to her husband how much she misses him and can't wait for him to return. Some of those statements might be true. More than likely they aren't. This woman is clearly manipulative, selfish, and a very good liar. I think you've been here long enough to know you listen to a woman's actions and not her words. If it IS true, unless you actually witness this physical abuse first-hand, it's not really any of your business. You know, since it's THEIR marriage and doesn't involve YOU whatsoever.Just a Shot Away said:1) The guy's a piece of garbage. He's put her through extensive emotional and physical abuse during the course of their marriage. It makes it difficult to feel bad about taking a woman from a guy like that. But hey, maybe you guys think it's cool to hit women...I don't know.
Boo-hoo. The chicks you normally get with lose interest when they realize you're not a good catch? You're so pathetically desperate that you'll take ANY opportunity to ejaculate? Man, that sucks. I can't imagine what it must be like to have no standards. But I guess you need self-respect to have any standards in the first place. And you certainly have no self-respect.Just a Shot Away said:Whoever suggested that I find bush that is single is definitely right, but the only problem is that I'm a WWWWWWWBAFC and rarely come across potential tail (2 chicks a year usually.) Any girl that shows interest initially loses it very quickly once they realize that I have no confidence and do not portray the dominant, masculine area that they are evolutionarily predestined to be attracted to. So in short, I have to take any opportunity I can get in order to bust the metaphorical nut.
Obviously? No, that's not obvious at all. Are you TRYING to get a single girl? You're in here whining that some married chick is gonna have sex with her husband. I actually laughed out loud when I first read this thread.Just a Shot Away said:Yes, I take some pleasure in instilling a desire in a woman to the point where she will risk her marriage in order to bone down, but I would obviously rather get a single girl that isn't being f'ucked by another guy...if I had that ability.
2) Although his M.O.S. may not be as an infantryman, he's undoubtedly been trained to operate a firearm. As have you. Again, though, this is not the point. The point is--wait... wait a second here...Just a Shot Away said:2) "Highly trained killer"? Whoever said that...you do realize that not every person in the military is an Army Ranger or Navy Seal, right? Believe it or not, they have people that do paperwork all day and even pass out towels at basketball games that are in the military. Incidentally, his job is lived in computers and doesn't involve killing anybody. Also, I'm a veteran myself and know my way around an M-16. I'll be fine. Thanks for the concern, though.
3) Yes, it's a risk we all take when we're sexually active. But even a complete moron knows he's gonna get sloppy seconds at some point when he's having an affair with a married woman. Wait, let me rephrase that, since you're a complete moron and "cannot be sure if [you're] already getting sloppy seconds."Just a Shot Away said:3) No, I cannot be sure if I'm already getting sloppy seconds. But then again...neither can any of you unless you have a private detective following around your women 24/7. That's a risk that we all take when we are sexually active.
Ahh, the cherry on the top of your unbelievable post.Just a Shot Away said:This is not my concern, though. My question is how do you best deal with nearly ASSURED day-old sloppy seconds. Yes, it's not as bad as having sex with her on the same day as another guy but the fact remains that she will have had sex with another guy very recently. Is there anything I can tell myself to feel better about this? Any tricks to forget about it?
Cheating is not embracing your masculinity. There's nothing masculine about it. What you're doing is just desperate.Just a Shot Away said:Well, of course I am VERY sorry to hear that you think I'm a "fvcking jerk-off" and a "piece of shivt" for acting on my carnal male instincts and embracing my masculinity, but I don't see why other people's business causes you so much grief. I hope you find your peace, someday.
I will update the thread after tomorrow though, and let you know how I dealt with my problem if it arises.
As I stated in my post, early on, without moral judgement, OP has shown he doesn't have what it takes to handle or be in this type of "relationship"; it is not for everyone, specially dudes who can't handle the fact that women are sexual beings who have had sex with somebody else before. Guys, you are not the only penis in town.Yeah OK said:Ahh, the cherry on the top of your unbelievable post.
You don't need help feeling better about f*cking a married woman. You need help feeling better about having sex with a woman who's p*ssy is still oozing with hot cvm residue from the dude she just gave it up to an hour before meeting you.
What a chump. You weren't kidding about being desperate for whatever p*ssy you can get. I'm looking in my crystal ball and I see prostitutes in your future my friend. No, that doesn't include the married one you're messing with now. She's DEFINITELY NOT in your future.
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Your future... yes, let's think about your future for a moment. What I love about people like you is that you think in such a short-term way that you don't realize you're already ruined. My advice to you would be to end this arrangement as soon as humanly possible and cut your losses. I'm not even saying that from a moral standpoint; it's actually what's best for YOU, believe it or not.
Here are the possible outcomes of this little affair:
1) Husband comes back, you 2 get caught, and the arrangement ends.
2) Husband comes back, you 2 get caught, she divorces her husband to be with you, and you're in a relationship with someone who will end up cheating on you the same way she did him.
(Good thing you're preparing yourself for the idea of dealing with "sloppy seconds"...)
3) Husband comes back, you 2 don't get caught, the novelty of cheating slowly fades away over time, and either you or she (more than likely she) ends the arrangement once you're both swiftly brought to the reality that neither of you are a good catch.
4) Husband comes back, you 2 don't get caught, and you start to get jealous that she doesn't put you first in her life. She'll still tell you she loves you to string you along until she's bored with you, while you become more and more AFC and push her away further. Arrangement ended.
5) You realize this was stupid to begin with and break it off with her after reading this post. You cut your losses, begin to improve your poor mental state, TRY to get with single women, and stop delaying the inevitable collapse of this affair of your's any longer.
Obviously, 5 is what you should do. And I of course know you won't do number 5, but that won't stop me from at least GIVING you the advice you really need but won't follow.
But as I said, you're already ruined. The act of cheating has its own way of punishing those who do it. You think you're insecure now? Just wait. Just wait until you find a girl who actually has VALUE. Just wait for you both to get closer, things to get more serious. Just wait and feel that sinking suspicion when she's late to meet up with you. Just wait until you grow more and more suspicious when she doesn't return your phonecalls fast enough. Just wait until you destroy a perfectly good relationship with this woman because your past experiences cheating with the worthess wh*re you're seeing now has tarnished any trust you would have otherwise had. This is what people mean by "what goes around comes around." And it will come around my friend. It will. Quit while you still have some sanity, because the longer you're in this the longer you will be f*cked up mentally when it finally inescapably ends.
Now I'm no saint. None of us here are. But we all have our boundaries. I've had many opportunities to have affairs with married women. Perhaps too many. I've always refused to participate. A lot of my buddies would tell me, "But Yeah OK, if she doesn't cheat with you, she'll just cheat with some other guy! Go for it and get your's!"
I can't speak for the other people out there, but I personally refuse to contribute to this sort of malicious behavior just so I can get a 5-second-long orgasm having sex with a chick who's nothing special. A lot of guys--especially on this forum--tend to blame women for being such cheaters. How sleazy those women are!
They never attack the guys who willfully cheat with these women knowing their relationship status. I do. You both deserve blame, because you both don't care about others.
"It's simple biology!" they'll say. "Men were meant to be promiscuous! Women are supposed to crave and force relationships!" Sure, I'll bite. But they never mention that, since we're social animals and tend to work together to accomplish our goals as a species, ensuring you do what's best for your community is also something that's supposed to come natural to us.
But with such a large community with millions of people you don't know personally, you don't feel a sense of brotherhood or a commitment towards doing what's best for everyone involved, do you? You never even met the husband but you've set up your mind to view him as some wife-beating abusive prick who deserves to have his marriage ruined. Whatever you need to justify f*cking up the community is your business. But don't come on this forum acting like what you're doing is not morally reprehensible. It is. And there's nothing wrong with anyone who wants to call you out on it. There's only something wrong with the people willing to tolerate your behavior.
So what did I end up doing with all these married women who wanted me to come to their bedrooms? I'd sit them down and tell them how to save their marriage. I'd give them advice the way people give advice to each other here. And most of these desperate, lonely, disillusioned women would take the advice. It would always shock me that they'd follow the advice, since people rarely follow advice that's given to them. But if they're desperate enough to cheat, I suppose they're also desperate enough to listen to reason for once.
I've saved four different marriages this way. The women were relieved they didn't cheat, and the love and respect they have for me is genuine, grateful, and very real. Some of the many short-sighted people here would hear that and say "you're an emotional tampon! You should have hit that sh*t! Missed opportunity! Idiot AFC!"
Well, the satisfaction I get from saving those women from making mistakes that permanently damage their family life fills me with infinitely more confidence, self-esteem, self-respect, and happiness than I ever would have gotten from f*cking them until they finally came to their damn senses the hard way.
Those same women, by the way, have many single female friends. Those 4 married women who I helped rather than cheated with, they tell their single friends how I saved their marriage. They tell them how I refused to cheat with them when they were at their most emotionally vulnerable. They tell them how highly they think of me, and how they would do anything for me. I eventually meet these single women, and frequently enter quality, fulfilling relationships with them with ease because my values give ME value in their eyes.
"What goes around comes around" works both ways.
The choice is your's.
Well you're more than welcome to judge of course, but it'd be nice if people would keep the judgments to themselves considering they have nothing to do with my question and only clog the thread. As for being "despicable", I'm of the opinion that all is fair in love and war. You don't agree? Hey, that's cool. I feel no need to refer to you as "low value" because of this disagreement though.Yeah OK said:If you're looking for some judgment-free zone where people can ignore the fact that you're of despicable character and low value, look elsewhere.
Yes...she says this, and I believe her. It's fine if you can't trust anything a woman says, but I consider myself a very good judge of character and can usually see through dishonesty. Also, if a friend says they are being abused...it's my business. You wouldn't help a friend that says they are being physically abused unless you witness it firsthand? That's harsh, dude.1) She says he's a piece of garbage and that she endures emotional/physical abuse. She also says she's in-love with you...If it IS true, unless you actually witness this physical abuse first-hand, it's not really any of your business.
That wasn't a judgment. That was speculation, and I made no statement indicating my feelings about it one way or another.I really love your quote, though. "But hey, maybe you guys think it's cool to hit women..." A guy who doesn't like moral judgments is passing out a... yeah, I think it is... a MORAL JUDGMENT! Whoa!
Thanks for the input. Yes, I know it sucks not being able to get girls. It must be really awesome to have that ability, huh? I mean, I see chicks walking around on the street after coming out of the bars late at night with the dudes they will be banging later on that night and think "What a lucky guy, to be able to get girls." You're one of those guys? That's awesome, man. Should I be applauding? I apologize for having low self-esteem. Is that going to be enough for you or do I need to send money or something?Boo-hoo. The chicks you normally get with lose interest when they realize you're not a good catch? You're so pathetically desperate that you'll take ANY opportunity to ejaculate? Man, that sucks. I can't imagine what it must be like to have no standards. But I guess you need self-respect to have any standards in the first place. And you certainly have no self-respect.
I've been trying to improve myself in this area for almost a decade, and still trying. I'm sorry if I'm not making progress quickly enough for you, but everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses. I didn't really "go this route", so much as this is the route that landed in my lap.Instead of trying to improve yourself and MAKE yourself a good catch--a concept repeated over and over on this site to the point that it's almost a cliched mantra--you went the easy and (sorry to break it to you) doomed route.
Yes, assume. Why read my post when you can just make assumptions and sound like an idiot? Anyway, she hates her husband. She stays with him for the sake of their child. What happened when he came back yesterday? She cried and let me know about how his return only heightened her desire to see me as quickly as possible and how the countdown turned from days to hours.I assumed by your posting this thread that the husband had been away the whole time you have been having sex with this worthless tramp. What do you think is going to happen when this guy comes back and this lonely little housewife is reunited with a man she (presumably) loves/loved enough to marry in the first place?
At the moment? No, not really. I don't really have what it takes to get a girl period, at the moment. Single or married, doesn't make a difference. I have no confidence or game, lack the ability to put women in a sexual state, only make things VERY awkward with any attempt at kino, cannot make eye contact with any woman above a 4 and instinctively break the EC if it happens by accident, and do not project a masculine, dominant aura. In addition, I have been rejected by every single girl I have ever pursued. I ended up with this chick via pure serendipity. I'm not whining about her having sex with her husband. I asked advice on dealing with it if I am unable to prevent it from occurring.Obviously? No, that's not obvious at all. Are you TRYING to get a single girl? You're in here whining that some married chick is gonna have sex with her husband.
There's roughly 350 million women in this world between the ages of 18 and 40 that are 8's or above. Of those, roughly 350 million desire confidence in a mate above all else. You are talking to someone with confidence in the negatives. I don't know, you do the math. Again, I apologize for not having confidence and being weak with women. What can I do to appease you for this inexcusable lack of a trait given to some people at birth?You ALREADY HAVE the ability to get a single girl. With the billions of women in this world it's a statistical IMPOSSIBLITY that you do not have the ability. It's impossible to you because you are weak. Your character, your confidence, it's all low as can be. I pity you. You're an embarrassment to men everywhere and symbolize everything this site preaches to NOT be.
This guy is my "fellow soldier", now? Come on. A bit melodramatic, don't you think? Like I said. I have no feelings of brotherhood for a guy that likes to hit women. My conscience is clear.A veteran... who is trained to never stab his fellow soldier in the back, and to help one another and work as a team towards a common goal?
No, and I have no idea where you got that from. I'm only referring to her having sex with her husband. I understand that you think anyone who cheats on their partner becomes a "tramp", but again...all is fair in love and war. That's only MY opinion, though.You mean you're worried about getting sloppy seconds after her having sex with someone who isn't you or her husband! You're worried she's cheating on her husband with someone OTHER THAN you!
Yeah, well so is the beta wolf when he runs into the pack and tries to steal a bone so that he may perhaps scrape some leftover flesh off of it for sustenance. Why do you hate instinctual behavior so much?Alle_Gory said:Cheating is not embracing your masculinity. There's nothing masculine about it. What you're doing is just desperate.
What are you talking about? I made no reference to feeling like a piece of s.hit. I'm just wondering how to best deal with a little hangup I have about female purity.If you don't want to feel like a piece of sh*t, then don't do the thing that makes you feel like a piece of sh*t!
Lol, where are you guys GETTING this stuff from? I don't WANT her to be mine. I'm not going to take care of a kid, are you crazy? You had best believe though if I wanted her to leave her husband for me it wouldn't be much of a problem. Not much of a problem at all.The woman will never be yours, and even if she agrees to be, you can never trust her to be yours because you've seen how she cheats. Whatever decision you make, it will end the same way. She will never be yours. She's a ho.
I feel no need to be smug and arrogant about this stuff. I don't know s.hit about women, which I readily admit. I know that you think it's somehow "arrogant" to cite scientific studies when people try to say things that aren't true, but it really isn't arrogant at all. It's just displaying the facts for all to see to provide contrast to unfounded and misguided viewpoints about the topic of facial symmetry. Believe me, while I may come across as smug to you, I'm anything but. When I'm standing in line at the bank or a fast food restaurant every ounce of my resources goes into to making sure that I'm standing normal, my hands are positioned normal, I'm not making a weird or unusual facial expression, etc. etc. When it's my turn to go up to the counter and talk to the girl at the register my adrenaline goes through the roof as I struggle to maintain homeostasis and ensure that I'm doing all of the things I just mentioned but now have the added burden of worrying about appropriate amount of eye contact with the girl, smiling a normal amount without too much so nobody will "get the wrong idea", and sounding normal when I speak. If any of these checks and balances fails, I envision myself being the butt of everyone's joke in the building and being laughed at/berated to the point where I have no choice but to leave without my food or making my cash deposit and returning to my car. Believe me. I am not an arrogant guy.Now I understand why you feel the need to be so smug and arrogant on these forums. You have self-esteem issues. Just on this thread you admitted to being desperate.
Yeah, again...I don't feel like s.hit. I feel fine. I just don't like the idea of sticking my tongue into a hole where another guy's weenie has been in the past 48 hours. =/ Sue me.Clearly morality comes into play for you, otherwise you wouldn't feel like sh*t.
Yes, I know I'm over my head which is why I came here to ask questions. I didn't know I'd be dealing with a so many people riding in on high horses demanding that I immediately match my code of ethics with their own. I just had a f.uckin' question. =P Yes, I know it's foolish to expect a woman to abstain from sex with her husband so I can be the sole profiteer of the fruits from the vagina which is why I asked for help.Gangster Of Love said:You are way over your head, when it comes to knowing how to stay detached or grounded in reality. Has nothing to do with morality or judgement. This goes for anyone who's so insecure about a woman having sex with anybody else in the past, or present; being insecure and judgemental about a woman's lifestyle, yet lowering your fake standards just for a piece of a$s, then whinning and bitshing about it.
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
Then why do you care? Live with it. She's got a husband, you're sloppy seconds. If that's acceptable for you, there's no point in this thread. Live with it.Just a Shot Away said:Lol, where are you guys GETTING this stuff from? I don't WANT her to be mine. I'm not going to take care of a kid, are you crazy? You had best believe though if I wanted her to leave her husband for me it wouldn't be much of a problem. Not much of a problem at all.
There's studies done on everything, that doesn't make them all good. Not all scientific publications are worth anything. Just a few weeks ago, some Brits did a study about how beer is great drink after a workout.I feel no need to be smug and arrogant about this stuff. I don't know s.hit about women, which I readily admit. I know that you think it's somehow "arrogant" to cite scientific studies when people try to say things that aren't true, but it really isn't arrogant at all. It's just displaying the facts for all to see to provide contrast to unfounded and misguided viewpoints about the topic of facial symmetry.
Alle_Gory said:Then why do you care? Live with it. She's got a husband, you're sloppy seconds. If that's acceptable for you, there's no point in this thread. Live with it.
There's studies done on everything, that doesn't make them all good. Not all scientific publications are worth anything. Just a few weeks ago, some Brits did a study about how beer is great drink after a workout.
Now, a person who didn't know anything about nutrition would say "AWESOME!" But the truth isn't so nice. Beer is garbage, sure it hydrates, but it puts extra stress on the liver, and the alcohol reduces muscle synthesis.
Point I'm making is, sure you can quote a bunch of studies, but without the inside knowledge, you'll take a blatant mistake and think it's true.
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
Just a Shot Away said:She's avoided the sex for the first day, I just have one more day to make it through. I don't know if she'll be able to do it, but I've resolved to just try to keep my mind off of it and I'm not going to eat her out if she fails. As long as I use a condom I think I can handle it, but the thought of getting oral herpes because I licked a chick's snatch that just had a diseased philandering husband's throbbing member all up in there FAR outweighs the pleasure I would get from a good ol' fashioned 69 session. Thanks for the input.
Bullshyt, we have right hands and the internet. There is no excuse for lowering your standards so low. I would sooner go 6 months without pvssy, than bang fat chicks or taken chicks who have multiple loads inside them... and I have, and dont regret it.DonGorgon said:lots of men have to take what ever sex they can get ....
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.