Back on the prowl after 14 month monogamy. Seeking the missing keys

[SargeMaximus]

All right guys, need help with FRAME for a second.

recently I talked with a girl online and clearly failed the **** test or lost frame but either way it made me realize sometimes there’s no “winning” because if you pass the **** test you’re really just jumping through her hoop.

observe:

her: *sends girly gif of girl getting shy and smiley*

Me: *couldn’t figure out how to send gigs in this app so I just used my standard opener* hey trouble

her:
Hi

me: *noticing her status is “bored”* bored I see. What are you looking for on here?

her: Dominance

me: * so here I’m thinking “we’ll if I try to be dominant I’m just pounding my chest trying to prove my worth to her, which is putting her on a pedestal. But if I tell her I’m dominant I’m also trying to gain favor, so what should I do? I end up just playing it honest which also seems like I lose frame but this is what I mean, there’s no way to win here. So this is why I need help. Women do this kind of **** to me a lot and I have no way to counter it, it’s like the worst thing ever. I’m starting to think I should just abandon her at that point and say something like “good for you” or “yawn” or something like that. Thoughts? Insights? Sugggestions?

 

[SargeMaximus]

My initial urge would be to invite her to a date in a dominate way. I'd say something like "Get your ass over to my place at so and so time. We are going to cook dinner together and have a couple drinks". Though I could be way off on this.

Yeah but that’s not me and so, like I said, this would be me trying to win her over by augmenting myself

 

[FuzzX]

"Get your ass to Mars!"

 

[Lookatu]

her: Dominance

you: bruises, choking, spanking? tell me...

 

[SargeMaximus]

you: bruises, choking, spanking? tell me...

So simple. Thanks.

 

[Realthangpoon]

It sounds to me that you are tying to force it before you become comfortable with a girl. I think taking more time in your case before sex happens might improve the quality of sex. Part of that comfort will be finding someone that you're compatible with and not just someone with a hole you can stick it in. My $.02

agree
I’m currently dating/****ing an 8/10 but I really don’t wanna meet with her anymore because we’re very incompatible. I’m not even spinning other plates atm but I just can’t be bothered to put in 3 hrs of my time a week to get laid. And I’m not even masturbating. I think I’m just gonna go monk mode and take a break from chicks overall

 

[SargeMaximus]

agree
I’m currently dating/****ing an 8/10 but I really don’t wanna meet with her anymore because we’re very incompatible. I’m not even spinning other plates atm but I just can’t be bothered to put in 3 hrs of my time a week to get laid. And I’m not even masturbating. I think I’m just gonna go monk mode and take a break from chicks overall

I don’t ever put in that much time anyways. But I do still think having on-demand boners would help me with the situations like I had. Even if the chemistry is ****, if a cute girl wants to spread her legs for me over and over, I owe it to my biological imperative to **** her.

I do get off on that alone

 

[FuzzX]

 

[SargeMaximus]

This is next level. Totally using this next time thanks.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Update about the diet/boner situation:

hard to tell what exactly is contributing to it but today I’m getting slight erections and chubs sooooo easily. Iadded a new supplementso this may be the cause but full disclaimer: do your own research into supplements instead of blindly buying and trying. Some supplements don’t mix safely with medications or other supplements and can aggravate allergies or medical conditions!

that said, the new supplement I tried is called Fenugreek and is a pill. It’s hard to believe this is the cause but I’ve not had such prolonged/all day horniness with responsive boners during the day in a long time. So this is cool.

I also switched to camomile only tea. Previously my camomile teas had other ingredients but now it’s strictly camomile.

 

[FuzzX]

You might be low on Potassium. Just be warned man, taking this stuff can kill you. I have low potassium once in awhile, and I recognize it when my body starts to ache, in particular my chest area... it also becomes a bit hard to breathe so I supplement with a potassium pill 75mg. You can buy at the pharmacy for 10 bucks. It really helps me, its like everything goes back to normal. I heard they can contribute to Kidney Stones though if you're not pissing out the excess. But you might want to look into getting your magnesium/potassium levels checked.

If your body is low on potassium it becomes difficult for your muscles to contract properly. Really low potassium can cause your heart to stop beating.

 

[SargeMaximus]

You might be low on Potassium. Just be warned man, taking this stuff can kill you. I have low potassium once in awhile, and I recognize it when my body starts to ache, in particular my chest area... it also becomes a bit hard to breathe so I supplement with a potassium pill 75mg. You can buy at the pharmacy for 10 bucks. It really helps me, its like everything goes back to normal. I heard they can contribute to Kidney Stones though if you're not pissing out the excess. But you might want to look into getting your magnesium/potassium levels checked.

If your body is low on potassium it becomes difficult for your muscles to contract properly. Really low potassium can cause your heart to stop beating.

I get potassium from a banana and watermelon in my smoothie daily

 

[FuzzX]

I get potassium from a banana and watermelon in my smoothie daily

You drink a banana watermelon smoothie?

 

[SargeMaximus]

You drink a banana watermelon smoothie?

I put banana and watermelon in my smoothie and blend it myself

 

[FuzzX]

I put banana and watermelon in my smoothie and blend it myself

Those two things do not go together.

Mango/Banana + Yogurt + Honey is a great combo.
or
Banana/Blueberry + Yogurt

but Banana Watermelon is blasphemy.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Those two things do not go together.

Mango/Banana + Yogurt + Honey is a great combo.
or
Banana/Blueberry + Yogurt

but Banana Watermelon is blasphemy.

**** off. If I want trolls I’ll look under a bridge

 

[FuzzX]

**** off. If I want trolls I’ll look under a bridge

Disgusting.

 

[SargeMaximus]

So gonna start reading the DJ Bible. I read it years ago but I honestly forget most of it. As far as I can remember it's a lot of "be a man, don't take ****, be the prize" posturing without much practical use.

I feel like I'm out of "tricks". Not that being myself and genuine and being "a man" is a trick, but what I mean is: I don't have any tricks to use on women. It seems obvious they just don't want me as I am, and I can accept that, but I also have to accept that trying the usual pua advice never worked for me either. Thus, I'm gonna look for practical techniques and "tricks" to steer interactions towards a general "oh, this guy is a guy I must have sex with" reaction in women. I do well when that state is in a woman. But I don't know how to achieve it. So that is what I will be searching for. How to achieve it.

I'm not going to go the yappy social guy route because it'll be a never ending nightmare. People always want more and it'll spiral out of control till I'm this social machine existing only for other people not for myself. No thank you.

All I want is to know how to tweak the interactions in such a way to get girls chasing and having sex with me. I don't care about networking, status, or what have you. I'm already on my life's mission, feel fulfilled in that grind, but do not feel fulfilled in my sexual appetite.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and I'm going to be unforgiving in calling out BS pua **** that doesn't work for me. This is about my journey, not anyone else's. I'm not saying something doesn't work AT ALL, only that it hasn't FOR ME when I say something doesn't work.

Case in point, last week I had 2 seperate girls want me to come f*ck them during the night. I was tired and told them so and asked for a raincheck. They then ghosted me. According to PUA advice, saying "NO" to a woman, especially her sexual advances, shows IMMENSE value and pre-selection and non-neediness and all kinds of good things. So you'd think these girls would be pining over me after that. But nothing. Crickets.

It's **** like that which will be called out and documented. I'm after the nuggets, not the crap.

EDIT 2: On the FIRST page of the bible, contradictions that will drive me insane:

Patience is controlling your eagerness - Pook
AND
Hesitation is like masturbation: in the end you're only screwing yourself.
- Young Juan -

Like seriously wtf? Damned if you do, damned ifyou don't eh?

**** this is gonna be a grueling read.

 

[SargeMaximus]

More SH*T. Dkirectly from the DJ Bible:

The real definition of a man, tried, tested and true. (Pook)
- Does not go through life walking on eggshells. Go for what you want
- Focuses on his dreams. A passion (art, music..), a life-long dream to own the world, etc
- Does not apologize for his testosterone, for his desires. Don't deny that you want to feel fullied
- Tries to always win in what he does. Never give up
- Has deep convictions that allows him to be a possible leader. Take control of your life
- Seeks to solve problems then to place blame. Act instead of complaining
- Sees failure as only a temporary set-back to the inevitable. Life goes on, your day will come
- Knows where he is going in Life. The life-plan and control of it
- Never loses his passion, for that would be the death of his soul. Heart, dedication to YOUR life.
- Never feels he has to prove himself to anyo





Yeah I have all that. Yet not much success with women. So that is CLEARLY not the way. What useless garbage.

 

[SargeMaximus]

When I read some older articles on here to gain info, I remind myself to adjust for the current sexual marketplace. With all the options females have currently, I'd say strike while the iron is hot. If they have attention spans of goldfish, I don't think it matters how suave you are, if you reject them that night they'll find someone else in no time. Maybe you're also taking the advice out of context... I don't think telling a woman "no" is going to net the same results among all situations. Keep your spirits up, you are having more success than I am right now. I am adding hammered currently married/going through divorce bar chicks that are older than 30 to my list of acceptable females to bang. I just can't get to fatties yet... I am trying to open my mind up to it, but it's hard.

You’re probably right. This is a good perspective, thanks.

fattiea I only done 2 in my live, chubby I can stomach and some are actually cute if the curves are right. Mostly I jus lovesex and want that preselected aura.