Article: Most Young Men are Single; most young women are not

[corrector]

Except that most women don't know that I have a motorcycle or do martial arts. If I were to tool around on a motorcycle with a sword strapped to my back, then your argument would hold water, but it's absolutely not part of my 'immediate attraction'.
I do have a protector vibe from working as a bouncer, but I don't go around protecting women left and right.

Women feel safe with me because my dark traits are on the outside. I don't have bottled up frustrated rage that can suddenly explode at the wrong person, but I've lived with violence for a long time, and that marks you. Controlled violence can be attractive and women know I mean them no harm.


I may look fine for a fifty-year old, but I don't look wealthy and my 'status' is not apparent, except that I seem happy and satisfied who I am and where I am. I never cared for status anyway.


That's my IDGAF attitude at work.


I don't have the Looks that are pursued on this forum.
I don't have the Money that is deemed necessary to attract 'hot women'.
I don't have the Status that is deemed important to impress women.

I don't brag, I point out that the 'rules' and all the anxiety around it is mostly nonsense. It's based mostly on what men think and women say that is attractive, but most men don't know what women find attractive and most women say what men want to hear, not what they really think.
I know this because I actually have a lot of deep dark conversations with women unburdening themselves to me to find a way out of their PTSD.


Even though I don't need dating apps for finding dates, on the advice of a female friend who was successful finding dates on apps like Tinder and OKCupid, I did use both of those dating apps to find kinky women for rope bondage.
And yes, I did find a couple, but the ROI of dating apps was abominable. And the amount of fake accounts, scammers and validation wh0res is astronomical. So, no, dating apps don't work for me at all. I find more interesting women just walking around Amsterdam.

The women you were talking about on here earlier you met from the dating apps. You may not be using it because you already founds b d s m partners. It a sick thing to look for so if you hooked up with someone who is not crazy or into drinking blood, it would make good sense to quit while you are ahead. After all, like you said, you have two daughters, so you cant be too careful.

What I am saying is you are easy for me to read. No matter what you are saying, you are an alpha type of guy with swag and have a strong masculine frame and energy. In contrast, both me and others on here are more beta type of guys that do not have a similar frame. In your frame, baldness ADDS points, but others who have weaker frames and vibes it SUBTRACTS points.

 

[SW15]

Mostly due to the hair loss. I figured that, if anybody is going to cut me some slack on that, she’s likely going to be well north of 40.

I could be wrong, but that’s been the thought.

So I haven’t really tried 30s at all in a few years.

I see your thought process. In theory, it makes sense that a 40+ woman would give a late 40s guy a pass on hair loss as compared to 30-39 year olds. In reality, neither will.

40-49 year olds now know they are able to go on apps and get attention from men with height and hair at a minimum, if not the Big 3 of height, hair, and money.

%bf is about 24. Working on weight loss and fitness. Short term target is <20%. Then can fine tune those numbers from there.

I'd say 17% body fat is about when you'll start to get attention.

24% body fat + crown bald spot = very few sexual marketplace options regardless of personality. Only a multimillion dollar net worth and some solid status symbol possessions could compensate.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

The women you were talking about on here earlier you met from the dating apps. You may not be using it because you already founds b d s m partners. It a sick thing to look for so if you hooked up with someone who is not crazy or into drinking blood, it would make good sense to quit while you are ahead. After all, like you said, you have two daughters, so you cant be too careful.

Your idea of kink is very biased. And most of my rope bunnies I found in other places than dating apps.
None of my lovers are crazy or into drinking blood, you must have weird ideas about the BD-SM scene.

And I said I have two teenagers. I didn't say they were both daughters.

What I am saying is you are easy for me to read. No matter what you are saying, you are an alpha type of guy with swag and have a strong masculine frame and energy. In contrast, both me and others on here are more beta type of guys that do not have a similar frame. In your frame, baldness ADDS points, but others who have weaker frames and vibes it SUBTRACTS points.

I'm not an Alpha. I'm too much of an Einzelgänger to lead people or a company. Your view of the world is B/W. My 'frame' is easy to hold because it wasn't manufactured, it grew organically from being non-conformist and having a rough first half of my life.

Frames are weak when they are not congruent with who you are. Too much pretending, not enough becoming. Yes, you can fake it until you make it, but you have to make it. And that's where most guys fail. They pretend to be, but they do not try to become. So they end up as the Great Pretender, whose exaggerated masculinity shrinks like a punctured balloon when the challenges of life become real.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

24% body fat + crown bald spot = very few sexual marketplace options regardless of personality. Only a multimillion dollar net worth and some solid status symbol possessions could compensate.

I think you shouldn't compensate with money and status, because it will only buy you grief.

Work on yourself. Not for women, not for the respect of others. Learn to respect yourself. Don't hide who you are behind the baubles of vanity. Embrace yourself. This is your body, your transport through this life. Start caring for yourself, find your self-respect. Everything you do should be done to make you feel good about yourself. When you feel good about yourself, you will not have to pretend to be a man, you will be one.

 

[SW15]

I think you shouldn't compensate with money and status, because it will only buy you grief.

There are 40s-50s men with yachts who are having sex with 20 something women. How do you think they feel? It's possible the grief comes when the woman leaves for a fitter, younger dude.

 

[Mike32ct]

Why didn't you do hair transplant for the bald spot on the crown? You have hair front and sides.

Good question and your point is well taken. It definitely crossed my mind but I didn’t want to go under the knife for something cosmetic. Plus there’s the pain, the cost, use of minoxidil on the remaining sections, and potential for needing future surgeries, etc.

In theory, it makes sense that a 40+ woman would give a late 40s guy a pass on hair loss as compared to 30-39 year olds. In reality, neither will.

40-49 year olds now know they are able to go on apps and get attention from men with height and hair at a minimum, if not the Big 3 of height, hair, and money.

I'd say 17% body fat is about when you'll start to get attention.

24% body fat + crown bald spot = very few sexual marketplace options regardless of personality. Only a multimillion dollar net worth and some solid status symbol possessions could compensate.

Agree completely.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

There are 40s-50s men with yachts who are having sex with 20 something women. How do you think they feel?

Like frauds, having sex with amateur sex workers. None of these women would glance at them if they'd have to attract them with their personality. How proud and manly can you feel when you have to buy your bimbos?

 

[corrector]

Like frauds, having sex with amateur sex workers. None of these women would glance at them if they'd have to attract them with their personality. How proud and manly can you feel when you have to buy your bimbos?

I don't think someone who believes that having sex with an escort counts as a notch count is going to care about how a guy feels buying bimbos. His mindset is different from yours as it pertains to sex. He views sex just as important other physiological activities like eating, sleeping, and is something that needs to be done. You view it as optional and not necessary for the biological survival of the body.
If there sex is your god, then it would appear that anything you do in order to have sex, and with anyone, and in any circumstance would be justified. That is not our religion.

 

[corrector]

Good question and your point is well taken. It definitely crossed my mind but I didn’t want to go under the knife for something cosmetic. Plus there’s the pain, the cost, use of minoxidil on the remaining sections, and potential for needing future surgeries, etc.

Good decision. It means getting laid is not the most important thing in life for you. If it were, then you would have taken the cosmetic surgery if you knew it would help your chances.

 

[corrector]

I'd say 17% body fat is about when you'll start to get attention.

24% body fat + crown bald spot = very few sexual marketplace options regardless of personality. Only a multimillion dollar net worth and some solid status symbol possessions could compensate.

You see how absurd this logic is. If you say that to a 20 year old, who attract other 20 year olds, then it advice that makes sense, as they have a higher metabolism at that age, and lose the weight without much effort or sacrifice (ie they may be propped up and have more time to go to the GYM), and in the end-game, they may attract wifey material, or a girl that doesn't have that much baggage.

If you are 40-50 year old, the same type of advice is not the same thing. The metabolism is much slower, you are probably boxed in your life as things settle up (ie your low-paying full-time job, the habits of the day doesn't lend itself to big garguantian tasks like before, etc...) and even if you were to get your body-fat down to 17%, the best you could hope for is a 40+ year old with an insane amount baggage who might notice you among the hordes of younger thirsty guys who are also after her and has an inflated perceived SMV as a result.

Again, why bother?

 

[corrector]

Yes, I am going to settle since SW15 says so.

Believe what you want bro, I'm out!

According to SW15, they are settling with you, not the other way around.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

There are older women out there that aren’t severely damaged, at least not anymore than a 19yo with a 20+ body count.

That said there are plenty of objectively attractive women in my generation with sub-2 digit body counts, my generation grew up when people DIED of AIDS.

Usually the faker the women in their 40’s and 50’s are the higher their mileage. I’ve been very fortunate to grab a handful of recent divorcés and a few widows before the rest of you fackers ruined them - I can ruin them fine on my own

tyvm

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

But isn't over 40s the same problem as you have ultra-thirsty younger guys also vying after them and they are cougaring to younger and more virile guys?

The women over 40 that I didn’t snag right out of the LTR oven have slept with men in their 20’s and 30’s and have said that they were inundated by more kids than age appropriate ones. Most women who’ve been in a LTR for decades is worried about her SMV and seeks validation.

The ones that justify being with kids (under 35 IMO), saying that they weren’t pumped and dumped are the ones that get caught and released.

Youngsters love to rag on mature men, especially when I have schtooped 20-something’s, but regularly pursue cougars…

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

No matter what you are saying, you are an alpha type of guy with swag and have a strong masculine frame and energy. In contrast, both me and others on here are more beta type of guys that do not have a similar frame. In your frame, baldness ADDS points, but others who have weaker frames and vibes it SUBTRACTS points.

@hamsterassasin owes Johnny Depp a debt of gratitude for making pirates schmexy, he plays it down because he doesn’t want to give his piratical, swashbuckling, scalywag game up to you shysters.ai mean anyone looking can tell he’s a seaman, have you seen his rope work? The man can probably teach us a thing or two about mainsails.

Arrrrr

 

[Hamurabimbi]

There are 40s-50s men with yachts who are having sex with 20 something women. How do you think they feel? It's possible the grief comes when the woman leaves for a fitter, younger dude.

Yachts not necessary

 

[Hamurabimbi]

You see how absurd this logic is. If you say that to a 20 year old, who attract other 20 year olds, then it advice that makes sense, as they have a higher metabolism at that age, and lose the weight without much effort or sacrifice (ie they may be propped up and have more time to go to the GYM), and in the end-game, they may attract wifey material, or a girl that doesn't have that much baggage.

If you are 40-50 year old, the same type of advice is not the same thing. The metabolism is much slower, you are probably boxed in your life as things settle up (ie your low-paying full-time job, the habits of the day doesn't lend itself to big garguantian tasks like before, etc...) and even if you were to get your body-fat down to 17%, the best you could hope for is a 40+ year old with an insane amount baggage who might notice you among the hordes of younger thirsty guys who are also after her and has an inflated perceived SMV as a result.

Again, why bother?

I’m middle aged. Got down to 19% BF. Actually. Once I got down 22% my life improved. I’m still looking to get to 15%.

 

[corrector]

I’m middle aged. Got down to 19% BF. Actually. Once I got down 22% my life improved. I’m still looking to get to 15%.

I'm basing what I'm saying on the words of SW15, not real life, to make an illustration that the logic is flawed because the parameters of his logic are too restrictive. Remember, SW15 never mentioned getting a 19 year old girlfriend. He is just talking about 40+ year old women. Based on his logic, if you can only hope to attract a 40+ year old woman, because you don't have the vast wealth and resources, etc.... after all of the looks/gymmaxxing, then what's the point?

People like you do not exist with the narrative, and it's good that you keep inserting yourself to continue to provide the counter-narrative.

Middle-aged short guys can get 20-year old girls, end of story, end of argument. There are allot of people who don't think so. I guess they must be wondering if you have a troll persona, lol!

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I don't think someone who believes that having sex with an escort counts as a notch count is going to care about how a guy feels buying bimbos. His mindset is different from yours as it pertains to sex. He views sex just as important other physiological activities like eating, sleeping, and is something that needs to be done. You view it as optional and not necessary for the biological survival of the body.

That's why I don't judge them. Do whatever you want. But if you ask me, 'how do they feel?', I try to feel what they feel and it's a pretty empty feeling.

 

[corrector]

That's why I don't judge them. Do whatever you want. But if you ask me, 'how do they feel?', I try to feel what they feel and it's a pretty empty feeling.

Maybe, maybe not, each person is wired differently and may experience different things.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

@hamsterassasin owes Johnny Depp a debt of gratitude for making pirates schmexy,

Depp and I both drew inspiration from the same person.