Article: Most Young Men are Single; most young women are not

[oc16]

Statistically insignificant and a non-representative sample. The typical 40 something guy is a pussie beggar who settles for some woman between 1-4 years younger than he is.



The people you know are not a representative sample. The people I know are not a representative sample. Researchers make a lot of efforts to find representative samples. Representative samples typically show age gaps of less than 7 years.



I have heard of it. Just because that rule exists, it doesn't mean that you can get someone 33 years old at age 46 based on what you offer.

Your most realistic option for a girlfriend in the next 3-6 months is someone who is 42-45 years old right now.

Yes, I am going to settle since SW15 says so.

Believe what you want bro, I'm out!

 

[Mike32ct]

Yes, and perhaps you are more realistic about your expectations then the OP is.

I try to be brutally realistic. I don’t talk to 30s women at all in real life unless it’s business related.

 

[SW15]

I try to be brutally realistic. I don’t talk to 30s women at all in real life unless it’s business related.

Why is that?

The toughest thing with childless 30 somethings is that a lot of them are itching for babies soon.

 

[Mike32ct]

Why is that?

The toughest thing with childless 30 somethings is that a lot of them are itching for babies soon.

Mostly due to the hair loss. I figured that, if anybody is going to cut me some slack on that, she’s likely going to be well north of 40.

I could be wrong, but that’s been the thought.

So I haven’t really tried 30s at all in a few years.

 

[oc16]

Mostly due to the hair loss. I figured that, if anybody is going to cut me some slack on that, she’s likely going to be well north of 40.

I could be wrong, but that’s been the thought.

So I haven’t really tried 30s at all in a few years.

My friend is 45 and bald and goes on like 2 dates a week!

 

[corrector]

Mostly due to the hair loss. I figured that, if anybody is going to cut me some slack on that, she’s likely going to be well north of 40.

But isn't over 40s the same problem as you have ultra-thirsty younger guys also vying after them and they are cougaring to younger and more virile guys?

 

[corrector]

My friend is 45 and bald and goes on like 2 dates a week!

...and what are the age and quality of the women?

 

[Mike32ct]

My friend is 45 and bald and goes on like 2 dates a week!

But isn't over 40s the same problem as you have ultra-thirsty younger guys also vying after them and they are cougaring to younger and more virile guys?

I look mid tier normie (MTN) in the front and sides with remaining but dyed hair. But the large bald spot on top/back just wrecks it. Have to finally shave this off starting in 2024. Nothing to lose at this point.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Mostly due to the hair loss. I figured that, if anybody is going to cut me some slack on that, she’s likely going to be well north of 40.

Younger women will dig your shaved head as long as you're not self-conscious about it.

 

[corrector]

I look mid tier normie (MTN) in the front and sides with remaining but dyed hair. But the large bald spot on top/back just wrecks it.

Then that bald spot makes you a sub-5, 3/10. Age craters these types of looks points. (ie you mentioned to term "wrecks it" not me)
You'd have to have a chad-tier like handsome face in order for the baldspot to keep you as a mid-tier normie. If you are a mid-tier normie and lose a few points because of the bald spot then that puts you below 5.

You are in good company BTW as I also have a bald spot and I figure only losing body-fat is the only viable way of increasing my looks-score.
How is your body-fat % looking like?

Have to finally shave this off starting in 2024. Nothing to lose at this point.

Maybe it might help. But I think body-fat and overall physique is more important as you age-out. That's the challenge on my end.

 

[Mike32ct]

Younger women will dig your shaved head as long as you're not self-conscious about it.

Understood. I think I would get used to it and lose the self-conscious feeling fairly soon.

 

[corrector]

Younger women will dig your shaved head as long as you're not self-conscious about it.

You have other things going for you. Firstly you ride a motocycle and some gals would be particular turned on by that as that's very masculine. You might have a low-body fat% or good physique and have good masculine energy overall. You also sound financially independent and have allot of female validation and social proof with younger women, etc.... It's not just about how the head is.
However, if you have just raw looks to work with, then it does subtract points, everything else being equal.

 

[corrector]

Understood. I think I would get used to it and lose the self-conscious feeling fairly soon.

But why would you be self-conscious about it? At the end of the day you are only feeling that way because of the feedback you are getting from women in real life. If you get positive feedback, then there is nothing to be self-conscious about. When you are getting negative feed-back, then you can't help but be self-conscious because you think something is wrong or off-putting for certain types of women.

For example, if I told you if you dress like a slob, wear unkept jeans, don't shave, and you'll end up having hb 8s- and 9s throwing themselves at you, AND it actually happens, then are you going to feel self-conscious about dressing like a slob? You'd probably want to dress that way and feel self-concious if you are dressing too well because of the feedback you have.

It's easy for the chadspaliners on here to sound like a know you all and just say "have more confidence" or "you are self-conscious" but then neglect the fact they are getting ALLOT of female validation in their lives while we are not at all on that level.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Understood. I think I would get used to it and lose the self-conscious feeling fairly soon.

You will. I was balding when tennis player Andre Agassi came to the game with his head shaved and women swooned over him. Before that, I worried I'd look too much like a skinhead, but I started shaving my head and noticed immediately that my attractiveness was enhanced rather than diminished. For many women a shaved head can be masculine (if you have a good skull shape it helps) and once you get a bit of a tan (or a ton of freckles, like I had), you're just who you are. Of course, women who want a guy with long hair will not be attracted to me, but so what? I don't really go for the superficial type.

And you'll be quicker with grooming also. Showering with a shaved head is so much quicker than having to wash and dry hair.

 

[Mike32ct]

%bf is about 24. Working on weight loss and fitness. Short term target is <20%. Then can fine tune those numbers from there.

Hair dresser thinks I have decent head shape. Other than being very light skinned, there’s no real downside.

Thanks guys. (I’ll stop there.)

 

[The Duke]

All these roadblocks and excuses people put in their way... the difference between a successful person and a failure. Work on your mindset. Your mindset trumps everything. Its the most powerful tool you have, if its used correctly.

 

[SW15]

I look mid tier normie (MTN) in the front and sides with remaining but dyed hair. But the large bald spot on top/back just wrecks it. Have to finally shave this off starting in 2024. Nothing to lose at this point.

Why didn't you do hair transplant for the bald spot on the crown? You have hair front and sides.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

You have other things going for you.

Of course. I'm an artist, I have great verbal skills, I'm good with my hands and I have certain erotic/sensual skills that make me attractive to women.

Firstly you ride a motocycle and some gals would be particular turned on by that as that's very masculine.

That's not a firstly. I ride my bicycle more than my motorcycle and women in general are not attracted to motorcycles. They are attracted to masculinity, but I don't advertise my motorcycling or my martial arts prowess; the masculine traits that attract women are more in my IDGAF attitude and my calm grounded attitude.

You might have a low-body fat% or good physique and have good masculine energy overall.

Sure. I'm 190cm/90kg and I have good posture from decades of training martial arts. Plus I'm capable and confident in my abilities, and a pretty good dancer. I also have my own style and IDGAF about what other people think about me and how I look.

You also sound financially independent and have allot of female validation and social proof with younger women, etc...

I don't flaunt my financial status, I don't dress in designer clothes (most of my clothes are old and comfortable), and I don't wear bling. I'm also a divorced father with two teenage children who live with me during the week; I'm diabetic; I'm monocular and have to wear an eye patch; and I have chronic pain from combat damage in my early life. I have to take Janumet twice a day and vape cannabis six times a day; plus all the other age-related issues that come with being over fifty years old.

Women enjoy my company because I'm chill and they can talk with me. I don't bullsh!t them, I don't coddle them, and I don't promise anything I cannot deliver. They know I have plenty of options and live in abundance and that they won't get exclusivity.

However, if you have just raw looks to work with, then it does subtract points, everything else being equal.

Guess that's why I don't go on dating apps, too superficial. I'm not ugly, but I am an acquired taste best experienced in person, not online. And I live in one of the greatest cities on the planet, where I have a cool lair.

Still, on average, if you compare me in the current dating market, I wouldn't score high on the Looks, Money, Status chart.
Most men don't understand why women find me so attractive, but then, they tend to look at men from their own perspective and they have no idea what women are looking for. So a lot of the 'rules' mentioned on this forum don't apply to me.

 

[corrector]

Of course. I'm an artist, I have great verbal skills, I'm good with my hands and I have certain erotic/sensual skills that make me attractive to women.



That's not a firstly. I ride my bicycle more than my motorcycle and women in general are not attracted to motorcycles. They are attracted to masculinity, but I don't advertise my motorcycling or my martial arts prowess; the masculine traits that attract women are more in my IDGAF attitude and my calm grounded attitude.



Sure. I'm 190cm/90kg and I have good posture from decades of training martial arts. Plus I'm capable and confident in my abilities, and a pretty good dancer. I also have my own style and IDGAF about what other people think about me and how I look.



I don't flaunt my financial status, I don't dress in designer clothes (most of my clothes are old and comfortable), and I don't wear bling. I'm also a divorced father with two teenage children who live with me during the week; I'm diabetic; I'm monocular and have to wear an eye patch; and I have chronic pain from combat damage in my early life. I have to take Janumet twice a day and vape cannabis six times a day; plus all the other age-related issues that come with being over fifty years old.

Women enjoy my company because I'm chill and they can talk with me. I don't bullsh!t them, I don't coddle them, and I don't promise anything I cannot deliver. They know I have plenty of options and live in abundance and that they won't get exclusivity.



Guess that's why I don't go on dating apps, too superficial. I'm not ugly, but I am an acquired taste best experienced in person, not online. And I live in one of the greatest cities on the planet, where I have a cool lair.

Still, on average, if you compare me in the current dating market, I wouldn't score high on the Looks, Money, Status chart.
Most men don't understand why women find me so attractive, but then, they tend to look at men from their own perspective and they have no idea what women are looking for. So a lot of the 'rules' mentioned on this forum don't apply to me.

Exactly. It sounds like you engaged in lots of masculine activities that would strengthen your inner game. Financial status infuences inner game by eliminating logistical challenges (ie if you lived under your parents, or in a croweded apartment shared by other roommates). You have a good physique, body fat and posture so it adds to looks. I did mention the motorcycle and martial arts adds to your masculine profile since you can defend and protect your woman.

You check all the boxes for looks, money and status. Btw there are different type of looks guys can have. You have the rugged masculune look and its congruent to who you are. In other words, you may think the rules dont apply to you, but I may argue that you have fulfilled the rules and are modestly bragging about it. You would also be successful if you used dating apps.

Not all chads have to be a pretty boy that gymmaxxed. Not every girl would go for that look either.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I did mention the motorcycle and martial arts adds to your masculine profile since you can defend and protect your woman.

Except that most women don't know that I have a motorcycle or do martial arts. If I were to tool around on a motorcycle with a sword strapped to my back, then your argument would hold water, but it's absolutely not part of my 'immediate attraction'.
I do have a protector vibe from working as a bouncer, but I don't go around protecting women left and right.

Women feel safe with me because my dark traits are on the outside. I don't have bottled up frustrated rage that can suddenly explode at the wrong person, but I've lived with violence for a long time, and that marks you. Controlled violence can be attractive and women know I mean them no harm.

You check all the boxes for looks, money and status.

I may look fine for a fifty-year old, but I don't look wealthy and my 'status' is not apparent, except that I seem happy and satisfied who I am and where I am. I never cared for status anyway.

You have the rugged masculune look and its congruent to who you are.

That's my IDGAF attitude at work.

In other words, you may think the rules dont apply to you, but I may argue that you have fulfilled the rules and are modestly bragging about it.

I don't have the Looks that are pursued on this forum.
I don't have the Money that is deemed necessary to attract 'hot women'.
I don't have the Status that is deemed important to impress women.

I don't brag, I point out that the 'rules' and all the anxiety around it is mostly nonsense. It's based mostly on what men think and women say that is attractive, but most men don't know what women find attractive and most women say what men want to hear, not what they really think.
I know this because I actually have a lot of deep dark conversations with women unburdening themselves to me to find a way out of their PTSD.

You would also be successful if you used dating apps.

Even though I don't need dating apps for finding dates, on the advice of a female friend who was successful finding dates on apps like Tinder and OKCupid, I did use both of those dating apps to find kinky women for rope bondage.
And yes, I did find a couple, but the ROI of dating apps was abominable. And the amount of fake accounts, scammers and validation wh0res is astronomical. So, no, dating apps don't work for me at all. I find more interesting women just walking around Amsterdam.