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Originally posted by Genghis Juan
<<if you truly knew women anywhere near as well as you believe that you do you wouldn't be here in the first place.>>

I've come a long way since my debut here, because of the insight the men have given me on this board, not the blowhard mumbo jumbo you pollute this board with.

Its strange that you would know so much about how hot women think' I've seen you're picture on this board and you are NOT hot.

Well if you're such a know it all, you wouldn't have put up with an abusive ex-husband for years. Oh ... but by your logic, you must have put up with it because he must've been HOT and you wanted to hold on because your NOT.

Its pretty pathetic that someone would put up with an abusive marriage, esp. when kids are involved, just because, according to your logic, your husband was hot.
Seems I hit a nerve...lol.

How attractive I may or may not be in your opinion is totally irrelevent. I AM attractive to the kind of men I am attracted to...and they are always extremely hot.

I've explained why I stayed with my ex husband many times over. I have also quite openly admitted that when I was only 18 years old I made a mistake in the man I chose to marry. I take equal responsibility for the abuse I endured because ultimately...I did choose to stay. Call that what you will, sugarbritches, but at least I take responsibility and admit my mistakes, which is far more than 99% of the rest of the members here do.

It's really too bad that you choose to get nasty just because you don't want to hear the cold hard truth about what women are really thinking about men and looks. You can hate on me all you want and it won't change the fact that everytime a woman tells a guy "You're too nice" it really means "You're too ugly". You guys should know by now that women can be very mean. You're just hating on me because I'm honest about it. You wonder why women won't tell men the truth? Because you can't handle the truth.
 

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Originally posted by frivolousz21
I guess they are deleting my posts so I will leave??? :)
I saw the post you made and it didn't warrant being deleted. It's quite telling how insults and rude/out of line comments to me never get deleted but you just pointed out that the person making such a post to me was just as "pathetic" as he claimed I was and it gets deleted.

Okay...whichever moderator deleted friv's post...why didn't you delete the post attacking me that was worse than the one friv made? I mean, I don't ask for special treatment just for having tits or anything. All I'm saynig is that if you're going to punish someone for calling names to one person you need to punish those who call me names too. The fact that you didn't delete the other post means that you are treating me differently for having tits. That's not cool...you have to be consistent.
 

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Originally posted by WestCoaster
I wouldn't be quoting the Amerian women suck website. The founder advocates murdering people who do not think/believe like him.

Provide proof or STFU! :kick:



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Originally posted by Wyldfire
My fiance' was both extremely masculine while also being very sensitive, gentle, kind, attentive, affectionate, loving, etc.

He used to brush my hair for me, wrote me 10+ page love letters, doted on me, treated me like a princess. He also benched over 500lbs and other men were intimidated by his presence. He wasn't an a$$hole or a jerk at all. He was very nice to people and a very thoughful and caring man.

Even though I've given you an example of men being able to be masculine and sensitive at the same time...that wasn't really what I was talking about. I was disagreeing with your premise that it is a certain personality type or demeanor that attracts women predominantly. That's not the case at all. Women are attracted most to a man's FACE. If she doesn't like his face she's not going to be with him unless she's a gold digger and he's loaded. Women DO care about looks. Most don't care about a perfect body or height. It's the FACE. Trust me on this. I admit to being shallow. Most women won't admit how important looks are to them because they don't want to appear shallow. Know what...I don't care that I look shallow so I'll tell you what most other women won't. My 19 year old daughter often tells me that I'm the shallowest person she knows about looks. She's probably right...

first of all your bf was gay. or he was taking so many roids he was so emotionally messed up that was all over the map. a man does nto, should not, ever ever ever brush a womans hair. my god, that's so pathetic.

second. not everyoen is as shallow as you think. sure, what you say does apply to 90% of the folks in the world. but believe it or not some people value personality and maturity above all else.

now that doesn't mean looks dont matter, they still do.

what im saying is if a woman likes two guys:

guy A: 7 on looks 10 on personality
guy B: 10 on looks 7 on personality

there are women who will pick guy A. personality can and does win over looks with some women.

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Re: Newsflash ...

Originally posted by WestCoaster
... women make horrible friends for men. Heck, they make horrible friends, period. Women backstab other women -- their so-called best friends -- at the drop of a hat.

I've known dozens of people and have several friends, including a few girls as friends. Only ONE would I consider close and that's because she knows when to call if I'm feeling good or bad. She has interests that go beyond having a man (though she has one right now), is one of only TWO women I know who are truly funny (the other one I met off this site believe it or not) and actually has a heart.

She even admits she doesn't like to hang around women because of the back-biting and backstabbing. Women -- at least American ones -- are sh-tty friends. The "friendship" is about THEM, it's not about mutual friendship. Well, at that's my experience and about every guy I know. Very few of my guy friends have girls as friends, not because it's all sexual with them, but because women make crappy friends.

Admit it.

We've all been brainwashed in that women are the caring, concerned sex. B.S. If I was in trouble, danger, or down on my luck, I'd never freaking call a woman ... yet women have called me all the time when they're troubled. The thank you for my assistance? With the exception of the lone girl I has a friend, it's been very little.

Women make good wives, lovers, girlfriends ... friends for men? Dream on. And as usual, they try to blame the man for a lack of friendship. B.S. again, they don't know how to be friends. Heck, they don't even know how to be friends with women.

bravo west. this post is bang on the money.

for most women life is about a soap opera. either they are tryign to seduce a man or their life is in shambles nad they want a man to save them. those two scenarios cover about 75% of the "friendships" women like to have with men.

i have a number of women friends and you know what - they ALL want to suck my c*ck. they've told me so. I've had them joke, seriously though, "you're so kind. i hope you weren't expecting a ******* for that. but if you were i'd give you one."

im like "haha, don't worry about it. you're welcome".

i want to keep them as friends. but thats how idiotic women are about "friendship". they will toss it away at the drop of the hat over a guy they like. just like they will toss it away for a guy they dont like (ie. offer nothign in the friendship and just use him in return).

its really quite sad the way women behave. especially towards each other.

at the end of the day the only one i TRULY count on in this world is myself and my family. then next in line are a variety of male friends i have who i respect like you wouldn't believe. THEN some women who would help me out of a rough spot mostly because they want to get in my pants.

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Re: Arguing with a Woman about Women’s feelings is Pointless!

Originally posted by OneArmDeeJay


Just beware of the users/lady friends that claim to be one of us because really they are like wolves in sheep clothing.

Think about it…

That is all
agreed.

study the wolf, but do not follow it.

:p

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Re: Re: Arguing with a Woman about Women’s feelings is Pointless!

Originally posted by DJDamage
Actually mother was right, you just didn't understand her back then. In actuality you were already not being yourself when your mom told you "be yourself". Being yourself means not hidding the fact that you were interested in a girl and being honest with what you wanted. Most of us have been hidding our true self and suppressing it over the years because we were afraid of the rejection and judgement. Being yourself simply means doing what you want to do and not being afraid to show it.

DjDamage
we develop repression techniques becuase most of us would love to go rob a bank, punch our boss in the face, etc.

hehe, unfortunately that hinders ones ability to chase after women sometimes.

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Originally posted by WestCoaster
I've got some AFC stories that are just off the charts.

I still need to pick up my testicles that I left at an ex-gf's place in Portland. Sad, sick, case of p-ssying out in the midst of an emotional breakup. God, just sick ... wonder if she stored my nads somewhere so I can get them back? Ugh!

Thank God I've changed ...
west, i love your posts, you are a great resource for everyone on here.

nothing, absolutely NOTHING, in this entire world is ever worth throwing your self respect and dignity away. not a woman, not a job, nothing.

the principles that we talk about on here regarding women are about more than just women, they are about how you value yourself.

women become a joke the moment you see yourself as the prize and never ever throw away your self dignity at any point in a relationship with a woman.

you're only problem once you master that is finding the woman that makes you want to settle down (which can be hard given 95% of the women out there have lost any sense of self decency and respect over the years, either by bangin the football team or treating guys like crap).

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Re: LOL

Originally posted by Genghis Juan


C'mon! Of course, people are usually not going to date someone that they don't find attractive in the face, but there are degrees of attraction; its not as black and white as you make it out to be. Requiring that one have an attractive face doesn't make someone shallow, and dating someone aside from the face doesn't make someone a gold-digger.
Ghengis is correct. I've had women that I don't think were THAT into me. but through casual conversation they became totally infatuated.

and there have been women who at first glance i paid no attention to. but through casual conversation suddenly found myself quite attracted to.

i think part of the reason women are so messed in the head is exactly because they THINK that all other women and men in the world are judging them SOLELY on their looks.

i know TONS of guys who would cross a road covered in scorpions for an hb7 with an 10 personality who treated her man right.

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Originally posted by joekerr31
first of all your bf was gay. or he was taking so many roids he was so emotionally messed up that was all over the map. a man does nto, should not, ever ever ever brush a womans hair. my god, that's so pathetic.

second. not everyoen is as shallow as you think. sure, what you say does apply to 90% of the folks in the world. but believe it or not some people value personality and maturity above all else.

now that doesn't mean looks dont matter, they still do.

what im saying is if a woman likes two guys:

guy A: 7 on looks 10 on personality
guy B: 10 on looks 7 on personality

there are women who will pick guy A. personality can and does win over looks with some women.

J
My fiance is dead. He was murdered a few years ago. Please don't disrespect or insult him. I loved him very deeply. He was not gay in any way at all. I have very long hair and it was something romantic he liked to do. He was very attentive and the only man ever able to keep up with me sexually. He didn't take steroids. He worked out hard and took vitamins, amino acids and supplements...but NO steroids. He played football, rode a Harley and was a great, kind man. Kids loved him and he was a great father.

He was very secure in his manhood and masculinity. He was a natural alpha male, always took the lead, wore the pants and STILL treated me like a princess. I loved that man HARD. I still do love him and will continue to love him for the rest of my life. A man can be both masculine and sensitive at the same time. It can't be done by anyone who tries to change who they are to be someone different to do better with women, though. This type of man is rare and he is as he is naturally. This type of man is NOT one you can make yourself into. You either are one or you aren't.
 

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Originally posted by SAYNO
Provide proof or STFU! :kick:



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Read it two years ago where he said he wanted to murder all gays, druggies, and alcoholics.
 

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Copy and pasted from the web site Sayno likes to post links to:

They discriminate against gay men, bi-sexual men, poor men, college students, high school students and Jews. You have to pay $50 to join. What a con man this guy is. Lining his pocket with money donated by frustrated men he teaches to hate and become more miserable. There's nothing on that hate site that you can't also find in the LEGITIMATE men's rights movement for FREE.

Sayno, you are such a tool to be advertising for this moron.


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Re: Re: LOL

Originally posted by joekerr31
Ghengis is correct. I've had women that I don't think were THAT into me. but through casual conversation they became totally infatuated.

and there have been women who at first glance i paid no attention to. but through casual conversation suddenly found myself quite attracted to.
I second that, bigtime.

Wyldfire THINKS these guys are the hottest thing on planet earth because they are, TO HER! I'm at least decent looking, but I swear, you would think I was a greek god the way some women have fawned over me in the past. And it has EVERYTHING to do with her level of OVERALL attraction, which is physical but also includes your personality. If you meet her initial minimum criteria for looks and then attract her with your whit and charm, your rating goes up several points and which CREATES an intense physical attraction.
 

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Calm down KB...I was intentionally making a sarcastic joke directed towards the radical set on here. They're the ones constantly slamming on American women...hence my comment about black men. Basically...I was doing to the American woman haters what you tried to do to me...reverse the situation and show them how ridiculous it sounds. For future reference...if you see me on a thread slamming women making comments like the one I made that offended you I'm only making a point. I don't prefer any race over another or any nationality over another.

Now, back to the point I was making...American men are no better or no worse than American women are. The very guys who have all these problems with American women are only having problems because they make stupid choices about who they get involved with. That's the same reason American women have problems with American men...stupid choices.

Got married and got screwed over by your wife? Maybe you should not have gotten married so quickly or chosen more responsibly...because either you didn't really know the woman you married or you knew but STILL married her. Your bad...and it's not the fault of all the women in America. Your girlfriend cheated on you or broke your heart? Perhaps you should take a serious look at the type of women you are attracted to. That's not the fault of all American women either. I don't go blaming all of you for the fact that my ex husband was a pr*ck so don't be blaming me if your ex was a biotch. We both made our mistakes and poor choices and we both get to live with the consequences of those mistakes and poor choices.

Quit freaking blaming everyone else for your screw ups.

(That wasn't all directed at you KB...I was on a roll and your post was convenient.)
 

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Your girlfriend cheated on you or broke your heart? Perhaps you should take a serious look at the type of women you are attracted to. That's not the fault of all American women either. I don't go blaming all of you for the fact that my ex husband was a pr*ck so don't be blaming me if your ex was a biotch. We both made our mistakes and poor choices and we both get to live with the consequences of those mistakes and poor choices. [/B]


I'm all about accountablity for EVERYONE. It just seems as if you are under the impression that there are plenty of women out there who wouldn't screw a guy over, and that just isn't the case from what I have seen and experienced.

The problem is, even the ones who seem to be unlikely to screw you over still end up doing so. I'm talking sweet, level headed, professional women who for all intents and purposes have their sh!t together, yet STILL have the "If you fail to keep our relationship at the peak of happiness I will gravitate toward the first man I see who lights my fire" mentality.

A friend of mine is currently having problems with his wife. If ANYONE would have been able to stay together I would have though it would have been these two. Turns out she is now telling him that she still loves him, but is no longer "in love" with him. Hmmmm, I wonder if she might be seeing someone else???? Too bad, I really liked her.

Judging from my experience and the experience that many of my friends have been through, this is an all too common thing. The woman thinks that the bulk of the responsibility of maintaining a healthy relationship falls on the man. The woman too often fails to hold herself accountable for maintaining the "spark" and ends up falling for the first guy who makes her thighs tingle. There wouldn't be a problem with this, except for the fact that she usually does this while she is STILL in a relationship.

I have had a few great relationships in the past and inevitably they end when she starts all of the "you never do this and that for me anymore, blah, blah, blah" and then I find out she has a new male "friend" and then before you know it it's all over with us and the next weekend she's spending the night at the beach with her "friend". Seriously, these are for the most part GOOD girls. They just have that common mentality that the grass is always greener, and they don't bother to BREAK UP WITH YOU before they look for those greener pastures.
 

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I, too, have friends whose wives I like and they've turned on my best friends. One gave a friend the "I love you, but I'm not in love with you" line (are they taught these lines like LJBF at some school?) ... and another nice woman who is treating my best friend like sh-t and all he's ever done has been a great husband and provider for her.

I'll take Wyldfire for her word on American men, yeah, perhaps many of us aren't great.

I work at a college and I've mentioned this before: There is a very odd change-dynamic that comes just after a woman either gets out of college or turns 25 or a bit older.

The young women ages 18-23 that I meet with are enthusiastic, love life, have career goals, smile a lot, and are just plain fun to be around. And here's a key: They love men, they like hanging out with them, dating them, and so forth. They're not bitter.

I meet with several older women, too. Some are great, but many come in sour about life, men, and so forth. These bad American men Wyld is talking about? They married them.

Honestly? If women would quit rewarding bad men by dating them, sleeping with them, and marrying them, their lives wouldn't be sh-tholes down the road.

But yes, there is a clear attitude change of women in their 20's to women in their 30's and 40's. I didn't know about it till I started working here, and the change is dramatic.
 

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Re:

Boys,

it isn't the WOMEN you dislike, it's the CULTURE producing them.

Consider the circumstances that produce these people. Men and women alike. Culture, society, families, education. Really, the girls you're seeing or dating COME from a learned background over 18, 21, 25 years, and are foisted upon the world. While people CAN and DO choose things, if their options are limited and the options provided are not good, what can be done to change the product?

American men speak of foreign, but why?

-Because they grow up (supposedly) in a very family-oriented culture where the young girl does work WITH her mother, such as cooking, cleaning, and house-tending.

Contrast: Most American girls don't do anything cleaning except their own rooms, if that. They don't work excrutiatingly HARD jobs during their formative years, like construction, sales, pizza delivery, bouncing, landscaping, stocking, etc. Alot of girls are treated so well by their daddy, they don't DEVELOP the skills or the character to enjoy work, be good at it, or have the temperment for it. They might "help", but it is not a cornerstone of the American family to say "Girls do this, Boys do that."

-Because they grow in a society with less. Most foreign countries allow for the simplicities of life. Some, on the other hand, are very into protecting women, such as Sweden. If you come from little, you expect little. Generally speaking.

Contrast: As the richest country in the world, with LOTS of borrowing on credit cards beginning at 18, we have a very HAVE it NOW society. That's a fact. The average debt of consumers is $8500 on credit cards, and when it's not PARENTS buying it for us, it's Grandparents, or even ourselves. Teens are ASSUMED to go to college, and most aren't paying CASH now, so nobody see's the transaction occur. Nobody sees the sacrifices made. How many girls are paying next to nothing to be at expensive private universities, but make little use of such degrees?

-Laws in some countries are more liberal. Some countries in Europe are more MAN-geared, where guys are afforded more protection under the laws regarding divorce, decreasing their emphasis on divorce.

Contrast: If you see America from THE OUTSIDE, it's very feminine. Women are afforded more protection under laws, both divorce and as it relates to abuse, because, for some reason they're seen as weaker. Yet they seem to exert MORE power in the media. Which is it? Weak and feeble or strong and sexual? If they're weak, why not act it, and be worthy of the protection? If they're as they are portrayed in the media, why so many benefits poured on them?

Opportunities: Alot of countries aren't up to the supposedly PROGRESSIVE values of the US that are pushed on us. We see this equality, but DEEP DOWN, guys know it not to be true. EVERY guy has dated a woman and has to wonder:

"How the fawk can business run if she can't remain calm or sane in business?"

Do we see the fallacy? The future business leaders of the world are the hores hopping c0ck on local campuses and bars, and those fickle women who can't decide what they want? NOBODY will admit it, but having worked in a variety of places, under 20% of ALL women are capable of being in a business environment. If it's not related to the end customer, squables over sex in the workplace are all for naught. I do not believe we should have hiring quotas and sex protection laws IN business. It's the best PERSON for the job, EVEN if your skills lead you to nursing, teaching, care-taking, or administrative jobs, and even that has its downside.

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Not ALL products of American culture are bad. Some are fantastic, but what I would say is...giving PEOPLE too much to begin with makes them weak, unappreciative, and lazy. It's ALMOST a rule, or law.

So you say, "What's the solution?" Get a better product.

WE know the facts. A man's role REALLY hasn't changed. For real. The same jobs are there, just on lower demand. We still work in offices. Just more hours. The suits are a little nicer, and we can work from with the Internet, but don't we still provide for the family? Don't MOST guys learn to do household activities from their dads or grandfathers? Don't we ALL go to school, start our own businesses, invest, get educated, get in trouble? I'd say so. Stats might change a bit, because the population is larger, but by and large, technology has ensured that we can earn more money, if we choose to.

What HAS changed is the product, and how we DEAL with it. Men have been wussified to a certain extent because they are using OLD weapons on a NEW foe. It's like using Bows and Arrows in war, when we're now dropping bombs. It's that way. Guys still have the same basic state of mind OR weaker. Yet the product is different.

Am I griping @ women? That's your call. Let the flaming begin by the few single women here.

Point is, can it be denied? I don't think so.

If a girl has a broken home, normally her expectations are low, which means she'll be tremendously bad as a wife.

If a girl comes from a very tight knit home, where daddy did everything, she wants/expects the same care. Maybe he doesn't have to LOOk like him, but she grew up doing that like a young girl, why should it change now?

Don't we guys want AT least what we had as kids, AND a while bunch more? Isn't the childhood a BASE of what we want? Obviously a ghetto baby wouldn't want the ghetto, but they certainly don't want less than that either.

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Realize that MOST women you see will be of this ilk. You'll have to dig DEEP to find a girl of the more "traditional" sense. I do think the products of society CAN weaken the children, and they are.

Otherwise KNOW what you're dealing with, a very strong asp, who will bite for more.

That's 1 reason marriage is in decline. So if you want marriage, you'll prob. be looking elsewhere. Likewise with long-term relationships.




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Originally posted by Immaculate
- fattest in the world
Why? Because they don't cook anymore, the food is too cheap.
Walking is a past and the cars is too cheap to buy.
Who did that? The progress, when we have "newer better opportunities" to have more things with less efforts.

- most likely to cheat
Why? Because the society doen't pressure them anymore about cheating. Why is that? Because "business culture" wants women to be mobile, i.e. be willing to move to other states for a job.
It teaches women that they should not invest much into LTR, since they could simple move to another place and find another man. Now even if she is not going anywhere, she still gets this mentality.

- highest rate of divorce (60% - US-US marriages; 20% - US-foreign marriages)
Same the previous.

- most likely to believe in feminism and "equality"
- most likely to hate men
Why? Because they have good jobs, so they don't need a man to be a provider. So they can "afford" feminism".

- spend least amount of time with her children
Why? Because they work full time, and often overtime, because society tell them "hardworking is good". and what excatly is good about "hardworking" woman? DEspite being hardworking she usually has a very poor money management and doesn't have lots of cash. She buys stuff even before she earns the money.
Also "hardworking" means she doesn't spend time with her kids.
Who needs this society value???

- worst at cooking and cleaning
Actually they almost do not cook and practically do not clean much. Why? It is too cheap to eat out and hire somebody to do teh cleaning.
 

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!!!NEWSFLASH!!!

People (both sexes, any race) who prefer to "go outside their kind" (d@mn I hate that term) do so because they prefer something that isn't the stereotypical norm (no duh).

The cure for this (and I use the term jokingly) is to be different yourself and attract people of a similar mindset who appreciate a deviation from the norm. You may be surprised that you may come across someone from the same culture who shares the same view. If not, "...break on through to the other side!!!"

D@mn I dig Morrison.... :p
 

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Originally posted by STR8UP
I'm all about accountablity for EVERYONE. It just seems as if you are under the impression that there are plenty of women out there who wouldn't screw a guy over, and that just isn't the case from what I have seen and experienced.

The problem is, even the ones who seem to be unlikely to screw you over still end up doing so. I'm talking sweet, level headed, professional women who for all intents and purposes have their sh!t together, yet STILL have the "If you fail to keep our relationship at the peak of happiness I will gravitate toward the first man I see who lights my fire" mentality.

A friend of mine is currently having problems with his wife. If ANYONE would have been able to stay together I would have though it would have been these two. Turns out she is now telling him that she still loves him, but is no longer "in love" with him. Hmmmm, I wonder if she might be seeing someone else???? Too bad, I really liked her.

Judging from my experience and the experience that many of my friends have been through, this is an all too common thing. The woman thinks that the bulk of the responsibility of maintaining a healthy relationship falls on the man. The woman too often fails to hold herself accountable for maintaining the "spark" and ends up falling for the first guy who makes her thighs tingle. There wouldn't be a problem with this, except for the fact that she usually does this while she is STILL in a relationship.

I have had a few great relationships in the past and inevitably they end when she starts all of the "you never do this and that for me anymore, blah, blah, blah" and then I find out she has a new male "friend" and then before you know it it's all over with us and the next weekend she's spending the night at the beach with her "friend". Seriously, these are for the most part GOOD girls. They just have that common mentality that the grass is always greener, and they don't bother to BREAK UP WITH YOU before they look for those greener pastures.
Here's the thing...people are lazy in their relationships...both men and women. People make mistakes in their relationships and rather than both people work together to fix the problem there is a somewhat universal "give me what I want but don't ask me for anything" attitude that reigns supreme in our society. The vast majority of you here display that exact takey-no-givey mentality I'm speaking of. You can't have a lasting relationship if you choose someone who doesn't give back or if you don't give back. Men need sex and women need to feel loved. Things will work as long as both partners are getting their needs met. If the woman stops having sex with the man he stops making her feel loved. If the man stops making the woman feel loved she stops giving him sex. It's SO simple but too often overlooked.

The divorce rate isn't about American women screwing over American men. It's about Americans screwing over each other and themselves in the process.

I'm a single woman and I have been single for about 5 years. I've also abstained from sex for that long. Why? Because I haven't met a single man I would want to get involved with. Most men are either male slvts which totally repulses me, drunks, druggies, criminals, liars, cheaters, bad hygiene, bad attitude...etc...

The point is...women have JUST as many valid complaints about the way American men are as you guys have about American women. You just don't see it because in order to see it you'd have to acknowledge the fact that American men are just as bad as American women...and very few men on here are willing to do that because too many just want to blame others instead of looking at how THEY can improve themselves.
 

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