I know many of you don't like doing the online thing and don't think it is a good way to get women. However, I am already going with this online thing and was before I got here, and even if I quit there are already some women talking to me that I at least want to give it a shot with.
What I don't know what to do, and wonder if anyone else knows how to do this smoothly with a high success rate, is transition from online to the bedroom. It seems I have been crashing and burning lately on the first meeting/date/whatever you want to call it, and trying to find reasons why my outcome isn't better then it is.
Anyway, I met another chick online and appears I have crashed and burned with her as well, even though after the date I thought there may be a chance she was into me. Here is what happened on my last failed date- met her through the personals and we emailed a couple of times.
I suggested that we meet up fairly soon so as not to be emailing back and forth all the time(like someone here suggested). She was open for the idea, and even though she said she lived in the same city I do, turns out she lives about 40 miles north of the other side of town. I am fairly new to the area so I don't know alot of places yet to meet up or do things, so even though I am supposed to be the man and decide I kinda let her make some suggestions, she wanted to go to a haunted house that is about halfway between where each of us lives. I tell her that sounds like a fun idea, etc. Then she also suggests we go to dinner at a Chinese place before we go and I agree to this.
So on friday I meet her at the Chinese place, find out it is super crowded and there is an hour wait to sit down, and the bar is full. Fortunately she hasn't arrived yet, so I make a table reservation for when she does arrive. However, there is still no table when she gets there, and she excuses herself to use the restroom. When she is in the restroom I luck out and finally spot a place at the bar that is open, and when she returns I motion to her from the bar and we sit down, order drinks, food, etc. and eat at the bar and talk about various stuff. She pays for her share of the meal, but I don't know if that is a sign of non interest because each gal is different about that stuff.
After all that is done we go to the haunted house, but still have to drive to get there. Since her car is right in front of the Chinese place and mine is quite a walk, she suggests we just go in her car, which was good because the haunted house was difficult to find.
Anyway, we get to the haunted house, and she has a two for one coupon. Since she drove and has a coupon I offer to pay for the haunted house, but I did sorta screw up here, because it turns out they don't take plastic(who doesn't take plastic these days!?). At least I have enough cash to pay for myself, I thought it was overpriced too, even with the coupon, but I didn't complain I just let it go and didn't dwell on my mistake or anything(she is a lawyer so not broke or anything).
We get inside the haunted house and there I try a little light kino to see how she responds. She didn't pull away so I thought that was a good sign, and I put my hand by her lower back area and she seemed okay with it. When she got "scared" once she even backed into me where I would have my arms around her. She wasn't physically aggressive with me on the date but at the same time she didn't seem to object when I did kino.
After the haunted house we drive back, and talk about travel and the places she would like to visit. Before I get out of the car I sorta jokingly said we should go to Palau on our second date, and she smiles and goes along with it.
I think the IOI's were ambiguous at best but even if she was all over me I don't know how I would have taken her home that night, because I lived about 40 minutes away and she lived about 40 minutes away in the other direction. I was also stressed because my parents were coming to town that week and I was picking them up at the airport early the next day and wanted to get some rest and not be out till 4:00 AM 40 miles outside of town.
Since I wasn't sure about this I didn't feel like taking another rejection like the last one over the phone so I emailed her instead asking how her week was going and got no response, so obviously she was never interested in me even though she let me do some kino on her.
Yeah, I am sure I screwed up in all kinds of ways but I will hopefully learn faster from my mistakes even if you guys tear me a new one. I probably could have joked with her a little more and played ****y and funny more and stuff, don't know if that would have helped. I actually did do that a little in the haunted house.
Okay, so that is the report on that little get together, and I have another gal I am talking to that is interested, and she is pretty hot. I thought I would put the emails so far on here for any suggestions on how I should proceed with this one. She is local.
Me
Hi G,
So I take it you are like the snowbaording ninja girl then? I like to do all those things, except I would rather fly a perfectly good airplane than jump out of one. I also like to ski, how about yourself, ever been skiing?
Steve
Her
Hey Steve,
How ya doin? No, I've never been skiing. Have you tried snowboarding? And have you tried skydiving? Don't knock it til you try it!
Have a great day!
G
Me
Hi G, I'm doin fine. I actually had a dream last night that I went snowboarding, and in the dream I was pretty good at it, so maybe I'll give it a try. Thing is, I am almost always the best skiier on the mountain, been doing it since I was three and was on the ski racing team in college. So if I were to take up snowboarding I would have to give up my alpha skier status and humble myself and stuff. But if I was good at it in my dream then I should give it a try sometime when there are no witnesses
Not sure about jumping out of an airplane though, that may take some convincing to get me to do that one. What is the story of you waving those swords in the air?
Steve
Her, after a couple days pause
So I keep logging on this site when I get to work. I've started to write you maybe 3 times and have gotten really busy each time. Anyhow...to answer your question this was actually last year's halloween costume. I was "G tha Ninja" hehe
So how's your week going so far?
G
Me-
Hi G the Ninja, I think your costume looks cute
there is just something about a hot chick waving swords in the air....
My week is going fine so far, my parents visited over the weekend and we went out to eat at the local fancy resturaunt in (my suburban town).
Have you been kayaking before? My parents live on the Puget Sound up in Washington and they have a kayak that I could go sea kayaking with when I visit, and go around the harbor and a bunch of little islands, it was alot of fun.
There is this place on lake N, I ride my bike by it on the (Local) River bike trail, and they rent kayaks and other various boats. I thought it would be fun to go kayaking there.
Her yesterday-
I have kayaked once before. Just a short distance around Catalina Island down in SoCal. Funny...just went hiking in Yosemite this past weekend with a girl that competes on a national kayaking team. Her back looks awesome! Made me want to take up kayaking. Only problem is that I'm not a good swimmer
G
So, any suggestions on how to proceed with the least likelihood of screwing this one up? I was hinting we could go kayaking, which would be an "action date" that shows her I am a fun and adventurous person to be around(something the DJ Bible suggested I do).
However, the weather doesn't even look like it will cooperate for the next week or so, unless kayaking in cold rainy weather sounds like fun, and she seemed to give some resistance on that idea too. So other then dinner and a movie, or just inviting her to my place, I am not sure how to proceed next with her.