A RANT: Share why you are p!ssed

[Gubby]

I would say your base assumption is wrong. Existence is very rational. I have a Masters in "rational". If the world wasn't predictable, repeatable, testable, explainable (Darwinian), etc. we'd have to close up our modern-day science classrooms. Psychology (RT's field) also relies a lot on studying "norms" and comparing "outliers" (those who act "abnormally") to the general rule.

The exception is the irrational, and if there should be any world religion, it should be nihilism. I'm more a fan of "humanism" though, since it has a positive spin to it.

Existence is rational? Just because we make rationalisations doesn't mean existence is. Science is fallible. Indeed, any good scientist would tell you that even with all the knowledge in the world, it is intuition which tends to guide their discoveries. Even maths is an art in its upper levels. And especially psychology - you can read all the textbooks you want but if anything they can make you LESS capable of reading people; intuition beats it every time.

Don't tell me quantum mechanics is rational. Physicists have found a level of reality where unpredictability and unknowability are PROVEN. Basically -- though they're trying to play it down -- they've realised that the universe just doesn't fit into their neat little boxes.

Hey, I'm a big fan of science! But once you take rationalism far enough you'll realise there's a hole that just can't be filled by thought alone.

 

[azanon]

Existence is rational? Just because we make rationalisations doesn't mean existence is. Science is fallible. Indeed, any good scientist would tell you that even with all the knowledge in the world, it is intuition which tends to guide their discoveries.

I never said science is infallible. You're not arguing with me on that point. I already admitted "irrational is not the norm", (read (amongst other things); it happens).

That "intuition" that you speak of is actually their existing education on the predictability of whatever it is that they're an experts in. They're drawing from knowledge, not something they're born with. Hypotheses are educated guesses, that are then tested. Observance of predictable, repeatable results confirm the "discovery".

Even maths is an art in its upper levels.

That which can be done by only a few certainly appears to be art in a figurative sense.

And especially psychology - you can read all the textbooks you want but if anything they can make you LESS capable of reading people; intuition beats it every time.

This gets back to my original comment above. That intuition you speak of is actually them drawing on their years of experience and training on studying and being knowledgeable of predicable behaviors that have already been documented.

Don't tell me quantum mechanics is rational. Physicists have found a level of reality where unpredictability and unknowability are PROVEN. Basically -- though they're trying to play it down -- they've realised that the universe just doesn't fit into their neat little boxes.

I think it would be unwise to assume that the correct explanation for the currently unexplained is that there is none.

Hey, I'm a big fan of science! But once you take rationalism far enough you'll realise there's a hole that just can't be filled by thought alone.

If you can honestly say that now (that you are a big fan) despite your negative viewpoint of rationality/science, then I can guess that by the time we're done talking, you'll be going to school to be a scientist.

 

[Gubby]

If you can honestly say that now (that you are a big fan) despite your negative viewpoint of rationality/science, then I can guess that by the time we're done talking, you'll be going to school to be a scientist.

Meh, I don't have a negative view of rationality, just the excess of it.

"your mind is your greatest tool but only your heart can make you happy".

Trying to put things in little mental boxes too much belittles their wonder. RATIONALITY IS NOT THE MEANING OF LIFE.


I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.

 

[azanon]

Meh, I don't have a negative view of rationality, just the excess of it.

Is it possible to be too rational? Please find me guilty of this! I strive for it every single day.

"your mind is your greatest tool but only your heart can make you happy".

Heart, used there, is 100% figurative. A balanced, properly functioning and reasoning mind, well-maintained body, developed social life, and positive spirit (attitude) brings happiness. Anyone's happiness can be explained, if said person were open enough to questioning.

Trying to put things in little mental boxes too much belittles their wonder. RATIONALITY IS NOT THE MEANING OF LIFE.

There's no reason to fret over the fact that there are "boxes" because there are SO many of them; certainly more than you'll be able to understand and explain in a lifetime.

The DJ bible is based on "boxes"; repeatable, predictable patterns with women. DJ-ing is a science, and one that knows it well will go far. It's the AFC that jokes about how women can't be figured out. We have them pegged here, my friend.

I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.

But this would presume that we were primarily talking about matters of opinion, would it not? I don't agree with that either. ;-)

 

[Gubby]

Is it possible to be too rational? Please find me guilty of this! I strive for it every single day.

Yes: you'll find the limit in the end if you strive enough.

Heart, used there, is 100% figurative.

There's an example.

There's no reason to fret over the fact that there are "boxes" because they're are SO many of them; certainly more than you'll be able to understand and explain in a lifetime.

Boxes don't exist. We make them.

But this would presume that we were primarily talking about matters of opinion, would it not? I don't agree with that either. ;-)

All it means is that I'm sure I'm never gonna get you to see things my way.

 

[azanon]

All it means is that I'm sure I'm never gonna get you to see things my way.

I used to see things your way.... when I was your age. It certainly wouldn't be fair of me to expect more of you than I got from myself, now would it? ;-) Comparing now to back then, I have 10 times the power. I have personal testimony from both sides; what do you have?

 

[leftForDeadPhoenix]

Where's the I'm not mad thread, because I'm not mad at anything right now? And I don't want to be any time soon.

 

[Gubby]

I used to see things your way.... when I was your age. It certainly wouldn't be fair of me to expect more of you than I got from myself, now would it? ;-) Comparing now to back then, I have 10 times the power. I have personal testimony from both sides; what do you have?

I also have personal testimony from both sides.

I've gone through over-rationalisation and come out the other side.

And please leave my age out of this. You could start being patronising.

 

[azanon]

I'm waiting for her to post "where's the ivillage forum because I obviously made a wrong turn" thread.

 

[iqqi]

DJ-ing is a science, and one that knows it well will go far. It's the AFC that jokes about how women can't be figured out. We have them pegged here, my friend.

Is this supposed to be a joke?!

Interesting discussions here, however. I guess my one frustrating night out last weekend WAS good for something!

I have newer better reason to be p!ssed right now, but most times I'm just not in the mood to be in a p!ssy mood. So I just shrug and, get. that. dirt off my shoulders. So I am nonchalant about the fvcked up stuff, as usual!

Phoenix Where's the I'm not mad thread, because I'm not mad at anything right now? And I don't want to be any time soon.

Um... start one then?

 

[azanon]

I've gone through over-rationalisation and come out the other side.

You never over-rationalized; you simply rationalized incorrectly.

OK, age and education aren't factors here. That I have a masters in Biology (and presumably you don't) isn't a factor here. You're probably right; your opinions on science should be given equal weight to mine. Yeah, that makes sense.

Look, I understand I'd be politically correct to actually not point these sorts of things out, but are you really the kind of person that wants to be falsely placated? If you want to succeed at this stage in your life, you should to constantly be telling yourself, "I'm 18, my wisdom likely still needs lots of refinement". The norm for your age is to know everything. Dare to be different, Gubby!

 

[Gubby]

You never over-rationalized; you simply rationalized incorrectly.

OK, age and education aren't factors here. That I have a masters in Biology (and presumably you don't) isn't a factor here. You're probably right; your opinions on science should be given equal weight to mine. Yeah, that makes sense.

Look, I understand I'd be politically correct to actually not point these sorts of things out, but are you really the kind of person that wants to be falsely placated? If you want to succeed at this stage in your life, you should to constantly be telling yourself, "I'm 18, my wisdom likely still needs lots of refinement". The norm for your age is to know everything. Dare to be different, Gubby!

Man, I have some deserved confidence in my own wisdom. Don't tell me what I need to do to "succeed". As if I need someone else defining success for me.

As I said, I want to end this discussion now. I retract none of my ideas, but I can't be bothered to argue them further.

 

[azanon]

Man, I have some deserved confidence in my own wisdom. Don't tell me what I need to do to "succeed". As if I need someone else defining success for me.

What you need to do? You mean, get a piece of paper as a blue-collar guy might want to quip to me?

The only thing I've done that you haven't is learned a s*** load more stuff than you and experienced approximately twice of this life as you. That piece of paper is in a frame somewhere "lost" in the corner of one of my closets.

As I said, I want to end this discussion now. I retract none of my ideas, but I can't be bothered to argue them further.

Your ideas are the norm where I live in here AR. Most everyone I work with is in awe of the "wonders" and "mysteries of life" that only God can understand. I have to gag on your "ideas" as a daily ritual. Being a thinker is quite the lonely life, from an intellectual point of view.

 

[Gubby]

Your ideas are the norm where I live in here AR. Most everyone I work with is in awe of the "wonders" and "mysteries of life" that only God can understand. I have to gag on your "ideas" as a daily ritual. Being a thinker is quite the lonely life, from an intellectual point of view.

You think I'm not a thinker? You think I've never experienced this loneliness?

 

[azanon]

You think I'm not a thinker? You think I've never experienced this loneliness?

We've long since hi-jacked this thread with this discussion. I feel guilty continuing the discussion here.

......

iqqi wanted to rant on being mad, something or other. continue please.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Meanwhile...ALL the way back to the original post:

<<<<<<<< This just in from CNN affiliate WVUN >>>>>>>>>>>

Earlier this evening, our sources report that random sitings have been made in New York City of yet another guy who has been described as incredibly "PISSED OFF". In fact, some have described this man as "MAD AS HELL!"

Here's how it began:

At a popular outside Bar/Club on the lower east side, various onlookers noticed that a couple sitting in the outermost patio area were arguing with some guys sitting across from them. And although, no one knows for sure, the general consensus is that the guy was out on a first date with a lady, while two guys from some obscure, unnamed seduction forum were attempting to steal the girl away from him.

"They called what they were doing AMOGing". One witness said. "And I don't know what the hell that means, but I DO know that they just kept belittling and insulting the guy until he just couldn't keep his cool anymore! Then, all of a sudden, the guy started yelling and tearing his own clothes off-----then he jumped up from the table and commenced to opening up a big-assed can of "Whoop-Ass" on' em!"

And yet another patron, a heavily tatooed one, who also seemed to have had more than his fair share of Coronas that night, had even MORE to add: "Dude, I was just coming out of the john, from draining the snake, and saw tables, chairs, amplifiers, AND PEOPLE flying everywhere! By the time the shyt was all over, it looked like a hotel room from back in the Eighties after MOTLEY CRUE had just checked out of it!!!"

Other sources also say that after that fight was over, the pissed off patron THEN continued his ass-kicking campaign all across the lower east side of the city. However, just BEFORE all hell broke loose, one brave waiter was able to snap a couple of pictures with his cell phone camera. And WVUN now gives you the first look at these two EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS!!!!!

First, here's the pic of the mad as hell, incredibly pissed off patron who started the Bar fight:

Click HERE!

And also-------here's the pic of his only slightly LESS, mad as hell, incredibly pissed off date!

Click HERE!

 

[azanon]

Meanwhile...ALL the way back to the original post:

Cool - I beat the general by 2 minutes ;-) Have faith general; I will restore the focus of the army to defeat the enemy that is before us!

 

[[S]alvatore]

I'm pissed off with people and the world in general. I honestly wouldn't mind having me and my dog as the only people on earth ala I Am Legend. Just sick of the bullsh!t and having to tiptoe around everything and everyone.

 

[Quiksilver]

I'm pissed at my back! Every time I'm about to start hitting the gym again, my back injury flares up. It happens the day before or the day of, and the pain is real and happens every time.

I don't know if it's god wanting me to become a fatass, or whether I should just say fvck it and work through the pain(its debilitating), until it either works itself out or I mess myself up to the point I need surgery to correct it.

But **** its annoying.

 

[ProDJ26]

I'm pissed at my back! Every time I'm about to start hitting the gym again, my back injury flares up. It happens the day before or the day of, and the pain is real and happens every time.

I don't know if it's god wanting me to become a fatass, or whether I should just say fvck it and work through the pain(its debilitating), until it either works itself out or I mess myself up to the point I need surgery to correct it.

But **** its annoying.

Do some Deadlifts lol

j/k