4 Undeniable Truths About Women

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Something caught my attention before. Watching this lady speaking to a gay guy at work.....she knows he's gay and they're good friends (he also has a partner) I think but whilst talking to him she was displaying all the classic flirt signs ie. the playing with the hair, facing him really smiling and you'd swear she was all over him.

Could it be that we read into this all too much? Could that be natural behaviour for a woman no matter what? Or is it not that she's flirting with him but if she feels comfortable she can be herself?
 

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bigneil said:
Looks mean almost as much to women as men upon meeting. They want someone they can show off to their friends.

However, unlike with men, good looks don't guarantee her interest will stay. The slightest thing can set off the cascade of her collapsing interest level, no matter how good she thinks you look (and no matter how much money you have).
a guy can have 6-pack abs, look like Channing Tatum, Brad Pitt, David Beckham, Cristiano Ronaldo but if he has no confidence, is boring, has no life, he won't be attracting any women
 

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Young Stallion said:
Undeniable Truths About Women:

1. Women are all different, different personalities, different levels of education, different in appearance, different aspirations in life because they are different people..........HOWEVER......

No matter what a womens personality, economic, religous, academic background is....they ALL are physically attracted to the same type of guy. Hence the 10% of guys do 90% of the phucking rule.

2. A womens response mechanism as far as attraction goes is as follows, almost like a layer of tests that must be passed.

A. Women looks at face, if she likes face, she looks at body, clothes, style.
B. Women looks at body, if she likes body, clothes style and face she pays attention to your personality. (Just like us guys).
C. Women judges personality to see if you fit into CAD or DAD category. CAD category is the guy she wants to phuck, DAD category is the guy she wants to bring to her company Christmas party and say hey look at the catch I got.

In order to get to C, you must first pass A then B....then hopefully be categorized as a CAD and not DAD.

3. A women needs two types of men in her life. Her lover and her provider.....her lover is the CAD personality type and her provider is the DAD personality type.

4. Women are publically politically correct and privately dirty very dirty. A women will never say publically what gets her ***** wet and her heart pounding and her blood pumping with butterflies. You wont here her say "Yah that hot arrogant jerk who doesnt give me the time of day is what I want"...NO NO NO they will say "I want a nice sweet guy who understands me". However privately they are hornier than we would ever believe...you know the whole porn industry is built around women who are getting phucked...think about that for a second...we may be watching it, but THEY are doing it. They are just as dirty if not dirtier than us.

This all fits together rather perfectly to be honest with you....and now I am going to tell you what makes you pass these tests.

The first test you need to pass is the face test
A. All facial parts must be in correct place with no deviations or asymmetrical features such as crooked teeth, crooked nose, no facial deformalities such as cleft lip and palate or anything else that makes you noticebly different.

B. Little to no facial fat. You can lose this fat with excercise.


Next you need to pass the body clothes style test
A. You must not look fat.
B. You must not look skinny
C. In other words you have to look proportional (Proportional none workout looking body could put you in DAD zone) (Proportional workout ripped, cut looking body could put you in CAD zone).
D. Wear stylish clothes (Suits, Blazers, golf shirts, clean cut khakis put you in the DAD zone or could) (Leather Jackets, chains, tattoos, cooler none proffessional clothes puts you in the CAD zone).
E. Facial hair I dont put much stock in that, but little to none is likely more attractive than lots of facial hair.
F. Dont underestimate the power of tattoos (provided you have a cut muscular body). Women love tattoos on muscular dudes.
E. I am going to get flamed for saying this but guys with glasses are much more likely to be in DAD zone than guys without glasses....so if you want to be in the CAD zone you should be wearing contacts.
F. Typically short good looking guys are DADs and taller good looking guys are CADS.

Personality breakdown, what makes a CAD and what makes a DAD

CAD
- Talks with a point to be made
- Is socially very adept when he is funny it is funny, he isnt trying to be anything he is not to be honest, he is just naturally funny, ****y, laid back and knows how to be bad.
- A CAD does not sit there wondering what a girl thinks or post messages on a message board wondering about what some girls actions meant.
- Is often labelled, a player, badboy, threatning, cool, ****y, arrogant...he really does not try to be any of this....he is just who he is.
- Knows how to talk dirty to a girl and does not even try to make female friends, girls always know when he is in the room and who he is. Please note, if this is done by a dude who is not a CAD there are two things that can happen...if the dude does not pass the physical test he is a creep if he talks that way, if a dude does pass the physical test but comes off like a DAD, if he talks dirty and stuff...the girl will just find it out of character and a turnoff because she does not perceive him to be like that.
-Is out there lifiting weights, playing sports, doing stuff with his buddies and girls just seem to follow it around, he is not out there looking.
-A girl wants to sleep with a CAD like crazy, but knows that he wont make a good long term partner...hence the reason why girls need two guys in their lives.

DAD
-The DAD is essentially the nice guy who has passed the looks test.
-He is a guy that a girl will date, want to marry and want to have kids with
-He probably has a good job, is clean cut and dresses classy
-He is a stand up guy, solid and honest
-I think you all know the point I am making

This whole thing loops around back to the point that 10% of guys do 90% of the phucking....MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT BOYS even if a girl is in a relationship with a guy who is the DAD type, she is still craving the CAD type...I have talked to many women before who were in relationships where they were not that sexually attracted to their partner and were cheating on them with some CAD type.

So there you have it....we are screened for having any potential to begin with, then we are segregated into two different categories based on how we keep our bodies, style and personality.

This sums it up and simplifies it. It all fits together.

-Young Stallion
yeah but people always argue that for every girl that has a boyfriend, that guy has a girlfriend, but i believe there are more male virgins out there than female virgins, since obviously girls can easily get sex.
 
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Spinning Spinning said:
Something caught my attention before. Watching this lady speaking to a gay guy at work.....she knows he's gay and they're good friends (he also has a partner) I think but whilst talking to him she was displaying all the classic flirt signs ie. the playing with the hair, facing him really smiling and you'd swear she was all over him.

Could it be that we read into this all too much? Could that be natural behaviour for a woman no matter what? Or is it not that she's flirting with him but if she feels comfortable she can be herself?
Hmmm....she's talking to my friend L, they both hate each other, L is female, neither are gay....yet she's doing all the flirt stuff. This proves my theory to a certain extent, with regards to some women at least, we are reading way too much into the flirtatious signs. Sometimes women are just like that anyway no matter who they're speaking to.
 
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Spinning Spinning said:
Hmmm....she's talking to my friend lauran, they both hate each other, lauran is female, neither are gay....yet she's doing all the flirt stuff. This proves my theory to a certain extent, with regards to some women at least, we are reading way too much into the flirtatious signs. Sometimes women are just like that anyway no matter who they're speaking to.
A lot of girls are simply flirtatious in nature, that's their personality.
They are this way because they are either slvts, or because it gets them a lot of attention (many guys do this too).

If I encounter a girl who is very aggressive and flirty with me, there are two possibilities:
1) She's a flirty girl and she acts this way with every guy.
2) She's interested in me.

#1 is far, far more likely.
That doesn't mean she won't have sex with you necessarily, however.
Just know that she wasn't drawn to you because you are such a special snowflake.
 

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I would like to thank everyone for all of their input into my thread. It was a very interesting thread that twisted and turned and covered a wide variety of issues.

Thanks again.
 

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Mike32ct said:
Agreed. I cringe when I hear "Women are less concerned about looks than men."

If you have overheard female friends, female coworkers, your sisters, or any group of females for an extended period of time, you would know 100% just how shallow women are regarding a guy's looks.
I used to go on forums thinking 'maybe I was wrong about them', and you get told otherwise. The very next day, some event happens that proves that your concerns were correct. You are not being stupid. Life is stupid.

The 'hot' guy being treated like a 'trophy' is part of the problem here, isn't it?
 

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sambwoy said:
I used to go on forums thinking 'maybe I was wrong about them', and you get told otherwise. The very next day, some event happens that proves that your concerns were correct. You are not being stupid. Life is stupid.

The 'hot' guy being treated like a 'trophy' is part of the problem here, isn't it?
SS is the only forum I know where we can have an honest discussion about the looks issue. Any forum run by pickup gurus generally won't allow such a discussion. Their mods are on the lookout for anyone who drops the dreaded "L" word.

Honestly, I'm not so concerned about WHY women are so into looks. I don't think it matters. Just know that they are. But to answer your question...

Yes hot guys are treated like some sort of trophy. Plus women have this sense of entitlement. Finally, women are generally very clique-y and hung up on status, so they only want to associate with certain guys. Worse than that, they are very condescending towards guys not considered top tier.
 

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Spinning Spinning said:
Hmmm....she's talking to my friend L, they both hate each other, L is female, neither are gay....yet she's doing all the flirt stuff. This proves my theory to a certain extent, with regards to some women at least, we are reading way too much into the flirtatious signs. Sometimes women are just like that anyway no matter who they're speaking to.
Regarding the gay guy at work that the woman flirts with, maybe he is a good looking gay guy. There are handsome gay men that women get flirty around. Plus these guys naturally have "game" in the sense that they don't give a F what women think.
 

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Mike32ct said:
SS is the only forum I know where we can have an honest discussion about the looks issue. Any forum run by pickup gurus generally won't allow such a discussion. Their mods are on the lookout for anyone who drops the dreaded "L" word.

Honestly, I'm not so concerned about WHY women are so into looks. I don't think it matters. Just know that they are. But to answer your question...

Yes hot guys are treated like some sort of trophy. Plus women have this sense of entitlement. Finally, women are generally very clique-y and hung up on status, so they only want to associate with certain guys. Worse than that, they are very condescending towards guys not considered top tier.
Perhaps its time to consider giving to charities to help people who really are hurting, not some stuck-up gal who's day is a disaster because her hair looks like she put her finger in an electric socket, and she spilled her drink trying to impress the cute guy in the corner of the restaurant she's working. I'm growing quite tired of Western culture.

Face it, girls like that have better lives than I do. When I go into work I'm always in a bad mood in ways I can't actually explain to anyone. I have been in work environments where I feel so pushed out from it all that I'm desperate.

They complain how they go through the same daily problems as everyone else, but in reality they have everything (in inverted commas), good looks, popularity, world at their feet etc and have crazy aspirations about finding a Prince Charming. They don't feel my pain from the past and the present, and thus I cannot relate to them. People tell me that life is bigger than looks, but even those things I cling to get taken away from me.



I'm just in the kitchen of that restaurant wanting to put my face in the fat fryer. All this negativity might contradict against the mentality of society to be positive and graft for things, but its not reality.
 
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zekko said:
Sorry, but this part is pure pickup theory induced bullsh!t.
If you want to go find some random women for some sexual experiences, more power to you.

But don't delude yourself into thinking that the lover and provider can't be the same guy. Don't delude yourself into thinking that "the catch" cannot turn a girl on just as much, if not more than, your cad. Don't delude yourself into thinking "the catch" cannot make a girl's panties dripping wet. Don't delude yourself into thinking that there are no guys who spin their plates, sow their wild oats, and then decide they want something a little deeper out of life.

seconded i started reading through it and he lost me at all the cad dad bullsh1t
 

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I must live in bizarro-land, most of the cads I know are the ones wearing polos and button-down shirts with khakis even outside of work while the "sensitive" guys tend to wear jeans and have leather jackets.
 

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I agree with some points from the original poster. The 2nd point is all over the place though, it's extremely naive to think women value looks like men do. Women SAY they value looks, but they dont in practice. Anyone who's been around the community long enough or seen/studied lots of puas (or guys who pick up a lot) will understand that looks dont really matter.

Girls will take the COOLEST guy, the leader, the most charismatic guy that everyone follows, the guy with the most friends and power. They will take this guy over a guy who techinically has better looks. This happens all the time. That's why we have this community, because looks isn't the major factor.

If looks was the major factor, such as the dumb 'face test', then us men should all be out getting facials and checking the latest moisturisers and stuff like that. Guys would wear make-up to enhance the beauty and features. Guys would spend all their time on their appearance and spend all day in the mall shopping for the best outfits. Guys would spend hours looking for shoes to compliment their outfits. Guys would spend all their time in the gym coz this will make a big difference in their appearance. But we know this isn't what women want. Women want MEN.

Girls will often say they find the guy hot, but its really they find the guy attractive for the reasons above, and they backward rationalise that the guy is hot (even though another guy may be better looking, but she isnt attracted to him).

This is basic stuff, the looks argument is old in the community. It's basic psychology and it's basic game. Don't argue with me, just look it up.
 

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remotecontrol said:
Your right..perhaps it is time to help those in need...rather than chasing some vacuous bleached blond...your spot on there. So do it. Pursue something actually worthy and good things will come to you in return..including good women.

Id imagine most people are sick and tired of western culture..it offers nothing but materialism...and most people are sick of that long ago..other than the most idiotic ones..remember its a big world out there and you dont need to stay in the west...It might do you a world of good to go abroad and see something different...Maybe even go to the third world and actually volunteer to help people..like you stated already.

You sound like you want and need a change..so aim for a change.

Like I said lots of people cant relate to the materialistic mindset..the kim kardasian clones...you are far from alone...don't believe the hype..most women are not that self obsessed and detached from reality..however it may appear like that if your looking at the wrong girls...The ones you are focusing on are the wrong ones for you...it might be your focused on the hottest and most popular girls...well girls seem to get hotter when they get popular..because they act like they are the 5h17 and everyone believes it...trust me there are tons of good looking women, every bit as hot if not hotter than the prom queens out there, real women who are not playing that game..you just are not noticing them..probably because they have their true hair color and work as waitresses or whatever.
I am currently seeking psychotherapy. I was angry at feeling outcast for years so I also record my thoughts on paper- I've had it most of my youth, and I have known girls I've encountered who had such insane expectations on how society should look thanks to TV exposure etc. For the down-to-earth guy it makes life much more challenging. I have spent most of my 20s with low self-esteem, bad posture, indecisiveness, insecurity, because I've come to expect the worst.

Maybe I woke up one day thinking we just can't have certain things in life.

In England I don't get how girls are as materialistic and emulating the 90210 life, the standards are created in Hollywood, hence why UK men may get hung up about not achieving a six-pack, that would require intensive physical work and a strict diet. Plus, this cruel and insulting notion that relationships are restricted only to the 'very attractive', and girls fantasize about 'exclusive clubs' where only 'hotties' are allowed.
 
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zekko said:
Like Mike32ct says, your looks are considered first. Because that's the first thing she sees about you, the first thing she knows.

But women will never be as visual as men. How many female strippers earn a living as opposed to male strippers? How many "nudie" magazines are sold that feature women as opposed to men? Guys are much more interested in seeing the naked female body than women are the male naked body.

Anyway, it's true looks are an important first hurdle to cross. If you pass the looks test, you can then go on to her other tests (if there are any). There have been some posters here who have talked about having better luck in work, class, or social circle situations, where they have the chance to show their personality over a long period of time. They can create attraction that way, but don't have much luck with cold approach, maybe because they don't have the looks to get by that first audience.
Your bulletproof game and charming personality won't make you look any more physically or financially appealing.

Of course guys wanna see a girl naked because most of the time, they hardly get to be around one in real life.

The less looks you have, the more everything else you better have. And that if she allows you to run game on her.

The rules are annoying for betas and awesome for alphas.
 

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If humans were never built to want to shag we wouldn't have all these problems. Being chemically programmed to want something we won't get does no end of problems in western culture.

You never possibly imagined as a kid your adult life would be miles worse than your school days, all those years of sucking authority's c*ck, all those years of being looked down upon by teachers and parents and beaten into obeying their rules, after all that time, with their own take on what is morally right and morally wrong, going by the book doesn't get you girls, either.

I usually go through mood swings on a daily basis and at certain times of the day, and I'm really angry right now.
 
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remotecontrol said:
Your right..perhaps it is time to help those in need...rather than chasing some vacuous bleached blond...your spot on there. So do it. Pursue something actually worthy and good things will come to you in return..including good women.

Id imagine most people are sick and tired of western culture..it offers nothing but materialism...and most people are sick of that long ago..other than the most idiotic ones..remember its a big world out there and you dont need to stay in the west...It might do you a world of good to go abroad and see something different...Maybe even go to the third world and actually volunteer to help people..like you stated already.
I have a theory that many westerners are superficial with their own looks and the looks of their ideal dates, because they can afford to. People in countries elsewhere can't afford to be so materialistic.

We have already established that a girl has to be attracted to you, but where do these standards come from?
I know what it feels like being 'different' like I have been deprived of the ability to get a girlfriend. I've heard girls in groups judge me within earshot many times. Then I get 'bullied' for being negative by my elders.
 

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On a complete side note I did something completely different.

I dressed up in a newer more rugged look, grew a goatee and talked in a more relaxed fashion, quieter and softer and I noticed girls reaction to me were a bit different in a positive way.

Here are the two most recent pics at the top of this http://www.flickr.com/photos/74892745@N05/

Girls arent attracted to classy looking guys as much as they are to rugged looking guys.
 

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Young Stallion said:
On a complete side note I did something completely different.

I dressed up in a newer more rugged look, grew a goatee and talked in a more relaxed fashion, quieter and softer and I noticed girls reaction to me were a bit different in a positive way.

Here are the two most recent pics at the top of this http://www.flickr.com/photos/74892745@N05/

Girls arent attracted to classy looking guys as much as they are to rugged looking guys.

I told you to grow the goatee..lol...looks like you shaved the sides of your hair too? And trust me talking in a more calm, relaxed manner makes you seem more confident to chicks...keep up the good work stallion!
 
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