4 Undeniable Truths About Women

[Young Stallion]

I'd be interested in your pics, can't imagine you look that horrible. I understand these things happen in high school around age 13-17, but at age 23 at university this sounds really strange. How old was she?

Now that I seem to have everyone interested in my pic lol here it is:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/74892745@N05/

 

[floydb25]

OP: You can't determine your worth by what other people think of you. Their opinion really doesnt matter.

What you might not realize - and I repeat this a lot - is that, even if these girls found you attractive - they'd still treat you like ****. You may think its a curse to be rejected by these *****es, but its really a blessing. I'll compare your side to mine to explain.

In my case, these *****es accepted me. I was attractive enough. I thought I was a special cookie, because they were nice and flirty with me, but rejected other guys in a very cruel manner, and generally treated them like ****. Just as you describe. However, once the infatuation wore off, and they became comfortable - it was absolute hell. The ***** that was hiding came out in full force, and everything was directed towards me - being that I was involved with them. Since they were controlling and manipulative (on top of rude and disrespectful) - they tried keeping me around, despite being complete *****es.

So really, finding out that they're a ***** and getting rejected in a very cruel manner early on is much better than being fooled by fake niceness - only to be torn apart later. You might not realize it 'cause all you see is the pain of rejection. But, these girls are bullies and *****es, regardless of who they associate with. You aren't special because you're "ugly" - because it has nothing to do with you. They're mean, critical, snobby, *****y with everyone. They just make you seem like the problem, and the reason they are rejecting you. They also only act nice when they're trying to gain someone's favor, or be accepted. This is how jerks are. These girls you mention are jerks. That's the problem, here.

Nice people are nice to everyone - regardless of if they're interested in others or not. That's a big thing to look for. Once you get away from the *****es, you don't feel so bad. Even if you get rejected - its not done in such a rude, insulting, disrespectful manner. It's no big deal, cause they were nice about it. Same goes for whatever relationship you have with them. They don't string you along, use you, and all that crap.

Once you move your mindset away from the *****es, and realize they're garbage - you're much better off. Unfortunately, a lot of very attractive women are *****es - because they can be. Just the way it is. Maybe you should chase after the DADs. :rock:

 

[patrick.de]

I don't really agree with you there floyd, getting rejected in such cruel ways as stated above can really destroy you. Your confidence hits rock bottom and you'll suffer for years from this.
What happened to you isn't cool either, but I don't think you can compare and say "you're better off getting rejected right away."

It's also important to distinguish between 'nice' and 'kind' people. Nice meaning ****ty, your regular nice guy. A nice person is nice to you because she wants to be perceived as nice and expects something out of it. In fact, this is very egocentric behavior and far off from being nice. That's why nobody likes nice guys. They're not nice because they like the girls, they're nice because they expect the girls to like them for being nice.

Kind people on the other hand don't expect anything in return for their kindness. These are people who do things for you without ever mentioning it. Just for the sake of helping you out. A nice guy helps you out and makes sure you know that he did it, so you can like him.

@YS, you look good in the picture with the suit, in other pictures I dislike some things like the gold chain or the hair full of gel.
Overall I don't think what these girls said should be representative of the general opinion of girls on you, just realize that you can't be liked by everyone and move on.

 

[bigneil]

floydb25 makes a good point. Anytime you're in a relationship, people are on their best behavior. They might pull it off for a week, a month, a year, but eventually they return to normal, and then you realize what a dou-che-bag they secretly were the whole time.

patrick.de - we can't let it hurt us THAT much. It's just a game we ended up losing, maybe in the playoffs.

 

[Spinning Spinning]

WTF bro you're not ugly.

 

[youngmack]

WTF bro you're not ugly.

Right ^^^ Thats what im saying (No Homo)

 

[Trump]

Exactly, I was once psychollogically tortured by a woman who I used to compliment from time to time. Wasnt really attracted to her, just thought she was a pretty girl who sat behind me in class and at the time I was under the illusion that girls liked to be treated really nice and complimented all the time.....consider it an attraction lie your parents teach you.

She litteraly sat me down and told me that girls do not appreciate compliments coming from guys like me. I asked her why and she just shrugged and then I said well what if Jeff (a really good looking guy in that class) gave you a compliment. She said well thats different. So I asked her why.

She said because Jeff is hot so its ok for him to flirt and talk to girls.

And I said so what about me.

She said ok, seriously your ugly and no girl wants a compliment from an ugly guy or to flirt with an ugly guy sorry....you make me feel weird and uncomftorable when you compliment me.

She then got up and walked away and said hope this clears it up and we can still be friends.

I said yeah it clears things up dont talk to me again b*tch.

Psychologically tortured? Come on bro, this is a girl and you are a guy, not the Cuban missile crisis.

You are giving girls too much value for just existing and as soon as they feel it they will crush you. Respect them, make them laugh, and have sex with them, but don't value them.

As soon as she said "girls do not appreciate compliments from guys like you", you should have said "sorry, I will begin with the insults right away."

 

[Burroughs]

Hey stallion dude realize this....you could be twice as ugly as you are now...but if you had a yellow ferrari and a pocket full of hundreds those same biatches who dissed you would let you piss in their mouths...

or as snoop said..'biatches aint sh!t but hoez and tricks'

truth

 

[sambwoy]

Psychologically tortured? Come on bro, this is a girl and you are a guy, not the Cuban missile crisis.

No that was me that used that wording. Wrong perhaps, but it feels like years of torment I've had with girls. If this is or was a regular part of my youth there's no point placing so much stock in what they think. I shouldn't be self-abusing and having depressing, self-fulfilling, defeatist thoughts because of this.

Many women are not the calmer, gentler morally correct opposite to the man as stereotypes go, making out men are the wrong-doers. Regardless of gender, they are vile, nasty and are just as horny.

If what we have talked about is the kind of man they aspire to date in the real world, they can't possibly think about life in the exact same way I do if they are living out these insane fantasies, nor have any issues that I can sympathise with or relate to.

 

[sambwoy]

I'd be interested in your pics, can't imagine you look that horrible. I understand these things happen in high school around age 13-17, but at age 23 at university this sounds really strange. How old was she?

Agreed. Calling someone ugly and stuff is stuff adolescents do. Ideally at an age where she is away from her stupid friends in the later school/college years she should be above such behaviour, and have at least gained some understanding that no-one in life is perfect, be it physically or mentally. I did, having been ostracised and isolated in most of youth.

So what if he was looking at her? It is natural. How do you communicate these days? People don't often go up and talk to people out cold when they are alone.

 

[bish0p]

While I do agree with some of what you posted, I take issue with this.

I don't like wearing jeans. I roll my eyes when I see some wannabe badass wearing leather and chains. I usually think to myself "Is it halloween?"

I wear slacks every day. A collared shirt. And for me, ties are a must. And, I prefer bow ties. I think they are cool.

That's funny...because I usually roll my eyes when I see some wannabe GQ guy wearing slacks, collared shirts and ties. I usually think to myself...is it church day?

In all seriousness, stop being so damn judgmental of the way people dress....just do you and don't worry about how other men dress.

 

[bigneil]

I wear slacks every day. A collared shirt. And for me, ties are a must. And, I prefer bow ties. I think they are cool.

Women love bow ties. Also braces (suspenders for buttons). Blazers with metal buttons, cuff links and metal collar points also rule.

 

[floydb25]

You realize there's a guy fucking the girl in every one of those pornos too, right? So in other words you're saying girls are dirtier just because they're the ones getting fucked in the pornos rather than being the ones fucking.

aside from that I just saw your pics and you have the sickest hair I've seen on anyone in a while hah, I'm obsessed with hair.

There's definitely a lot of hypocrisy, one-sided views, and double standards going on around here. That's what bitterness tends to do. Notice it a lot with people - even myself. A lot of guys do the same **** they complain about women doing - literally at the same time. Ex: they complain that a hot, shallow woman wants a guy who's hot and shallow, and doesn't care about her - when they're doing the same thing with her. Or, chasing after hot skanks for years - then settling for a nice girl later - while still cheating with the hot skanks. All while complaining about the hot skanks. Almost every complaint on here can be turned around on men.

That's why I don't put too much faith into complaints, generalizations, and stereotypes - from both genders. There's always more to it than what is lead to believe. Usually there's shallowness involved. Nice guys / girls finish last with hot people who don't care about them, and chase after *******s. Almost always. It's usually the person they are chasing after that's the problem, and themselves for having shallow standards in the first place. You don't see anyone complaining about average nice folks - except as it relates to themselves "finishing last" with some hot person. They're no better than they are.

If you notice - all around the internet, or even real life - people ask why HOT girls chase after douche bags and *******s. Probably because they're the same way themselves. Which just means the nice guy in question is also chasing after a douche bag and ******* (in female form). Then, they become angry, and change themselves to attract said douche bags and *******s. And so the cycle continues.

 

[Young Stallion]

I'd be interested in your pics, can't imagine you look that horrible. I understand these things happen in high school around age 13-17, but at age 23 at university this sounds really strange. How old was she?

I am not sure how old she was, but she didnt look like a first year student right out of high school. I would have put her age as a "mature" student perhaps between the ages of 22-25.

All the stuff that happened to me over the years really did a number on me and my self esteem. I picked myself up off the ground though and read several books on communication, body language and I also became obsessed about reading articles on what attracts women and what doesnt.

 

[Ihateinitiatingalot7]

and women are not as visual as we men are? not as attracted to looks?

 

[Mike32ct]

and women are not as visual as we men are? not as attracted to looks?

Exactly.

I'm not hating on women, but we need to cut the b.s. and call a spade a spade. A guy's looks is very important to her, no matter what she tells you.

Yes there are some wildcards you can play like money or status, or possibly even (exceptional) game, but your looks are still considered first.

 

[zekko]

and women are not as visual as we men are? not as attracted to looks?

Like Mike32ct says, your looks are considered first. Because that's the first thing she sees about you, the first thing she knows.

But women will never be as visual as men. How many female strippers earn a living as opposed to male strippers? How many "nudie" magazines are sold that feature women as opposed to men? Guys are much more interested in seeing the naked female body than women are the male naked body.

Anyway, it's true looks are an important first hurdle to cross. If you pass the looks test, you can then go on to her other tests (if there are any). There have been some posters here who have talked about having better luck in work, class, or social circle situations, where they have the chance to show their personality over a long period of time. They can create attraction that way, but don't have much luck with cold approach, maybe because they don't have the looks to get by that first audience.

 

[bigneil]

Looks mean almost as much to women as men upon meeting. They want someone they can show off to their friends.

However, unlike with men, good looks don't guarantee her interest will stay. The slightest thing can set off the cascade of her collapsing interest level, no matter how good she thinks you look (and no matter how much money you have).

 

[Mike32ct]

Like Mike32ct says, your looks are considered first. Because that's the first thing she sees about you, the first thing she knows.

But women will never be as visual as men. How many female strippers earn a living as opposed to male strippers? How many "nudie" magazines are sold that feature women as opposed to men? Guys are much more interested in seeing the naked female body than women are the male naked body.

Anyway, it's true looks are an important first hurdle to cross. If you pass the looks test, you can then go on to her other tests (if there are any). There have been some posters here who have talked about having better luck in work, class, or social circle situations, where they have the chance to show their personality over a long period of time. They can create attraction that way, but don't have much luck with cold approach, maybe because they don't have the looks to get by that first audience.

Yes fully agree. Most women aren't that into NAKED male bodies, more like just the male form like height, face, arms, chest, butt, etc.

The social circle thing is another "wildcard" of sorts. You can get to know her over time. She can sometimes be more forgiving on the looks thing because you're familiar, and she's gotten attracted/attached to you over time. If you met her cold, she would generally be more strict on her looks standards.

 

[Mike32ct]

Looks mean almost as much to women as men upon meeting. They want someone they can show off to their friends.

However, unlike with men, good looks don't guarantee her interest will stay. The slightest thing can set off the cascade of her collapsing interest level, no matter how good she thinks you look (and no matter how much money you have).

Agreed. The seduction process often hangs by a thread. The slightest mistake can destroy it. While we must not tip toe around women, do be aware that she can be easily turned off.