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As a man that is currently eating beef jerky I have to ask why as an Israeli of African descent do you feel the need to start every topic with "As an Israeli of African descent"?

I guess it's a moot point because I haven't heard back from her.

I agree with what you say here. What if he had already been on a date and she indicated a 2nd date but didn't return the call trying to setup the second date?

My thinking is that it's better to leave a voice mail then not.

so surprise surprise, 24 hours later and no call back. what's the next play here guys?

hmmm. interesting. I see what you guys are saying. however, I still think it comes off as confident despite making it seem like I have open availability.

She may not be into a relationship but if she is down to hang whenever you call her then keep her around and call her when you have nothing else going on.

So I'm trying to setup a second date and got the VM, left something similiar on VM when setting up the first date. Here is what I said: "hey ABC, it's XYZ, just calling to see if your available this weekend so give me a call back and lets try to make plans" Discuss...

I tend to agree. I'm thinking of send a text later today

Yeah yeah I know

In general I think it's a bad idea to try to make plans with a woman if you know she is busy that weekend... It puts you in a position for her to turn you down. For example, I was trying to setup a date a week ago for a Friday night and she let me know that she would be traveling for work that...

hey fellas what's up? new member here. so what's the consensus on contacting a woman that you just had a first date with? So text? call? one day, two days ?