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Um, I agree that looks arent the only thing that matters. Personality matters too. But it seems almost everyone agrees personality matters, so why discuss the obvious and established? Its the 'looks mattering' part that seems to be controversial. A lot of fools beleive your looks are negligable...

Im glad he was banned

The sucky part about this is that these guys really arent PUAs. MOst of these guys are frauds. David D aint a PUA, ROss Jeffires aint a PUA, gunwitch aint a PUA, I could go on. Id be embarrassed If I got the kind of women these guys actually get. Most these guys are just freaks trying to sell...

oh so your taunting me into using myself as evidence for my own argument huh. well, too bad what I actually look like/hotornot score is considered personal information, and will not be given out on a message board. I really could care less if you think Im telling lies about the kind of women I...

my screen name fits me well; I bang plenty of hotties that most men will never know what its like to be with. But your whole argument was that learning weither or not this is actually true about myself would some how provide us with evidence that the theory I preach must be true or falase...

What do I need to show statistics for? I DONT! my point was that a man can increase his special statistic (the probability that an arbitrary woman will find him good looking) if he correctly modifies his looks. Im sure almost all men on here agree that this is true (except you maybe, sadly)...

This conclusion is actually the result of low intelligence :crackup: Just becuase we see less success in dating for smart men than in dumb men doesnt mean its their intelligence that is CAUSING their failure. Youre misunderstanding how causality and correlations work. All this study shows...

THe health care system in the US is definitely jacked up! Its messed up how insurance companies try to fight paying your expensive bill that they owe you anyways. Its so wrong, it should be illegal, and classified as a form of theft. I mean, one woman got turned down for the ambulance...

You know, the statistic that measures the probability of an arbitrary woman finding you attractive in her subjective eyes. You forgot about this one already? You actually need proof of its existance? :eek: Do I also need to show you proof that a statistic that predicts the probability a fair...

Weither or not looks matter to women is independant of my screen name and hotornot score. This means learning what my hotornot score is will provide you with ZERO information about weither we live in a world where looks matter to women or or not. :p So your not going to post it huh. again...

This makes no sense. So your going to draw a connection between the truth of looks matter theory and some guy's hotornotscore who has the screen name "god of getting layed"? So how is some guy with such a screen name and his hotornot score going to provide any information about the truth of...

uh remember, an improvement is when that special statistic weve been talking about goes up. Since you said "no" to my special question, this means even you admit that every man will have a different statistic, meaning the stastic will change as you change your look. So yes you can improve your...

So what does my pic/score have anything to do with you truly being an 8+ or not? where does that enter into the equation? hey, if youve already posted your pic, and got "high 9s", then please feel free to post the url so I can see for myself. The burden of proof is on you!!!! Yeah, it does sound...

Rakishness, give it up. Youve lost this argument blunderously. 1. I have successfully proven that you can increase your physically attractiveness if you modify the way you look correctly. (ie. to increase that statistic that weve been talking about :D) And no, I dont need to provide any...

great post, I like your summary and examples provided :)

um, I just said some looks will have an unusually high statistic compared to others (italian male model happens to be one of these), never said there was some magical look that ALL WOMEN PREFER. Your putting words in my mouth, shame on you :nono: Now I know with certainty that youre...

Okay, I didnt ask you if you think there wasnt any "proof" about an "Ideal look". I asked you what your answer to this question was. It was "NO", and that was all you needed to say. Okay, now on with the argument. Since your answer was "no", this means you agree that some men will have higher...

Lets get back on topic Rakishness, ANSWER ME THIS: Do you beleive every man will have the same probability of a woman seeing him as "good looking" in her own SUBJECTIVE eyes given that the woman is an arbitrary selection from a diverse nation(ie USA)? YES or NO? lets please not try to...

Lets get back on topic Rakishness, ANSWER ME THIS: Do you beleive every man will have the same probability of a woman seeing him as "good looking" in her own SUBJECTIVE eyes given that the woman is an arbitrary selection from a diverse nation(ie USA)? YES or NO? lets please not try to...

oh, so Im racist becuase Im saying your looks do put limits on your abilities? right:up: your whole argument has been that a man wont see an increase in his chances of an arbitrary woman finding him attractive if goes from pasty white nerd to itallion stallion male model look (assuming hes a...