Sicko

[~attrACTION~]

You can watch the full version here: http://www.sosuccessful.net/forum/showthread.php?p=221#post221

It's a very good film. I watched it today, and it's really an eye-opener that every American, and many others should see. It's 2hrs, but it's funny and memorable...it flies by quickly. I don't usually like films like this, but it was damn good, so I felt like sharing.

Enjoy.

 

[Last Man Standing]

Our money from taxes goes toward paying the interest on our debt to private bankers who print our money - the money we have to borrow to make war around the globe! Hmmmm,,,why don't we just print the money ourselves and not pay interest to others???

 

[Last Man Standing]

If a hor has a baby from one of her pimps she'll get the "Red Carpet" treatment!! A uninsured man in his 30's will be sent to hell, if he has a life-threatening illness!!!!

 

[CGE333]

I went to see Sicko with my fiancé. She is a doctor and I wanted to get her reaction to it. She really liked the movie and so did I.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I think everyone complains about their health care system. I've heard Canadians b!tch about theirs, and af was in a hospital in France and said that most of the equipment in the hospital looked old enough to have been around during World War II.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

I'm as liberal as they come and I'll be the first to say this film is blatant propaganda. The US Govt. already spends more on healthcare per capita than France, Canada, Germany, and the UK.

Within the next ten years Canada will have to switch to privitization or risk the collapse of their health care system. Healthcare in Canada isn't free either. Citizens still have to pay full price for their prescriptions and wait weeks just to have simple procedures done. If you can't afford your prescription then your SOL. My friends sister had to wait 3 weeks to have a cast put on after she broke her ankle. The first doctor she went to told her it was just a simple sprain and she had to wait 3 weeks to get a second opinion from a second doctor. People who can afford it bypass the "free" system and purchase private insurance so they can receive real care.

Socialized medicine isnt FREE. It costs out the azz in taxes. That's why France has a 16% income tax rate and almost half your income goes to the government.

The most competent doctors are more likely to leave the country so they can make more money in countries with privitization. Countries with socialized medicine do less research and development because there is no monetary incentive to do so. Convincing drug companies to invest years and hundreds of millions of dollars to develop a new drug just doesn't happen in public healthcare. For them to take the risk there has to be a payoff which they won't receive if govt. is footing the bill.

 

[jesusrules]

it seems like a cool movie thank you.

 

[MT3]

Laughing at what? That those who want good healthcare and are willing to pay for it can actually get it in America? When centralized health care can't do the job everybdy comes here to get fixed up.

I was going to "laughing at your blind sense of pride" but you've jumped in and spelt it out for yourself.

"The debate about U.S. health care concerns questions of access, efficiency, and quality purchased by the high sums spent. The overall performance of the United States health care system was ranked 37th by the World Health Organization (WHO) in 2000, but the same report assessed Americans' overall health at 72nd among 191 member nations included in the study."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_the_United_States


Satistics from the World health Organisation

UK

Total expenditure on health as percentage of gross domestic product 8.1 (2004)

Per capita total expenditure on health at international dollar rate 2559.9 (2004)

USA

Total expenditure on health as percentage of gross domestic product 15.4 (2004)

Per capita total expenditure on health at international dollar rate 6096.2 (2004)

http://www.who.int/whosis/database/core/core_select_process.cfm?countries=all&indicators=nha


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care You wanna check out the table here.

"According to Dr. Stephen Bezruchka, a senior lecturer in the School of Public Health at the University of Washington in Seattle, Canadians do better by every health care measure. According to a World Health Organization report published in 2003, life expectancy at birth in Canada is 79.8 years, versus 77.3 in the U.S" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care

Since the 1990s, the price of prescription drugs became a major issue in American politics as the prices of many new drugs has increased exponentially, and many citizens discovered that neither the government nor their insurer would cover the cost of such drugs. In absolute currency, the U.S. spends the most on pharmaceuticals per capita in the world. However, the share of expenditure on pharmaceuticals accounted for only 12.9% of total healthcare costs, compared to a world average of 17.7% (2003 figures).[35] Some 25% of out-of-pocket spending by individuals is for prescription drugs.[36]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_the_United_States

Statistics like these go on forever and ever, vastly more expensive, statistically worse and less effective, only avaliable to 84% of people, keeps you locked in a job (60% of people in the usa are insured by thier company), and the number one reason for people going bankrupt. But yes, possibly the most advanced in alot of fields (which I couldn't find any data for) let's just hope it's less expensive for your insurance company to give you the treatment and not take you to court over it.
At least the ritch people are happy. Especially the trusties to these health insurance and pharmaceutical companies their taking your country in the ass and you enjoy, this is why we laugh.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

THe health care system in the US is definitely jacked up!

Its messed up how insurance companies try to fight paying your expensive bill that they owe you anyways. Its so wrong, it should be illegal, and classified as a form of theft.

I mean, one woman got turned down for the ambulance payment becuase "she didnt call in ahead of time" after she got into an accident. When was she supposed to call? like the split second right before she crashed? or when she was unconcious sitting in the wrecked car? oh yeah, that makes sense.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

THe health care system in the US is definitely jacked up!

Its messed up how insurance companies try to fight paying your expensive bill that they owe you anyways. Its so wrong, it should be illegal, and classified as a form of theft.

I mean, one woman got turned down for the ambulance payment becuase "she didnt call in ahead of time" after she got into an accident. When was she supposed to call? like the split second right before she crashed? or when she was unconcious sitting in the wrecked car? oh yeah, that makes sense.

Exactly right. Same like any type of insurance. Auto insurance, they require you to pay for insurance, yet if you actually use it, they want to jack it up and make more money. Their ideal situation is for you to pay pay pay, and not get into an accident, as that would mean they have to pay money to you.

Big business. Who do you think finances these politicians, and puts them in office? Yes, those same huge corporations who get protected, at the expense of the U.S. citizens. Why would they want to reduce their profits for the benefit of anybody else?

 

[just so suave]

is this sosucessful site linked to sosuave or is it just a similar site??

 

[MT3]

Big business. Who do you think finances these politicians, and puts them in office? Yes, those same huge corporations who get protected, at the expense of the U.S. citizens. Why would they want to reduce their profits for the benefit of anybody else?

Not in any of the advanced countries in europe. The government fear us over here, not the other way around.

 

[killbill]

this is a good movie.