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What if they're equally gutless?

It sounds like what you want is an easy way to avoid breaking up with her directly. But if you keep her infidelity a secret, you have no excuse not to drive her a thousand miles. May I suggest that you make up an excuse? Car problems? Back Injury? You just don't care enough to make the journey...

I wonder if they both decided together that he should propose or if he just did it to keep her around? How do betas end up married? How would a red piller go about it differently? And I'd quite like to know what percentage of engaged couples actually marry.

So you're saying, she might be luke warm for this guy, but she'd happily marry him anyway and just cheat/divorce when she finds someone better? That's what I suspected, and that's why my trust for women has taken a real blow. If she can do it to him she could have done it to me.

Really? Could she be that shallow? I guess so, because she certainly wasn't crazy about marrying him before. I'm just surprised. And I'm beginning to wonder what the point of an engagement is. Is it a buffer zone between dating and marriage, or is it literally just an excuse for women to get...

A couple of years ago I met a woman at work, she was flirting with me, and a rumor went round the office that she liked me because "I'm a man" compared to her boyfriend. I eventually asked her out but got rejected. I should have moved sooner. I was recently talking to her and I found out...