Can't trust women!

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A couple of years ago I met a woman at work, she was flirting with me, and a rumor went round the office that she liked me because "I'm a man" compared to her boyfriend. I eventually asked her out but got rejected. I should have moved sooner.

I was recently talking to her and I found out she's now engaged to her boyfriend. So presumably he proposed and she said yes, and she seems pretty happy about it.

And I find that a bit scary. Here's a woman with a boyfriend she was happy to run down in front of her colleagues at work, but all he has to do is buy her an engagement ring, and he becomes marriage material. How does that work?

Did they "work it out"? Is she "settling"? And more importantly, how many other women are like this? All of them?

Does every great relationship have periods where one partner doubts the other and even considers leaving them? Or maybe the poor bastard proposed and she was too much of a coward to say no, so she said yes just to maintain the status quo, does that happen a lot?

I just want to understand more about what might have happened so I can avoid these kind of traps in the future. And I sure as hell don't want to end up marrying a woman like this.
 

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Women like to show off to other women, i.e "look how great I am that this guy proposed and like, totally, look at the ring he got, o.m.g (does my ego boost and percieved status symbol get all you *****es off!?)"

That's why it's smart to not over-estimate the 'specialness' a girl places on you. Enjoy it, but don't get caught up in the delusion. They only care how special they look with a guy, and how special he is at giving her tingles (conditionally).
 
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Really? Could she be that shallow? I guess so, because she certainly wasn't crazy about marrying him before. I'm just surprised.

And I'm beginning to wonder what the point of an engagement is. Is it a buffer zone between dating and marriage, or is it literally just an excuse for women to get more rings and presents?

There seems to be so many facets to human relationships and they all confuse me.
 

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Here's a woman with a boyfriend she was happy to run down in front of her colleagues at work, but all he has to do is buy her an engagement ring, and he becomes marriage material. How does that work?
The purpose of an engagement or wedding ring is for a woman to prove to others that she's valued. That's all. They show it off for the attention others give, and it makes her non-engaged friends jealous.

After a couple of years, it just sits on her finger and she forgets about it most of the time unless someone points it out. Once the attention from the initial engagement or wedding fades away, she's just as vulnerable to the advances of higher value men as she was before she received the ring.
 

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So you're saying, she might be luke warm for this guy, but she'd happily marry him anyway and just cheat/divorce when she finds someone better?

That's what I suspected, and that's why my trust for women has taken a real blow. If she can do it to him she could have done it to me.
 

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Absolutely she'll cheat/dump/divorce when something better comes along.

1]It is better to be divorced than never to have been proposed to, married
2]She'll get rewarded handsomely after the divorce, so why not?
3]Betas always get married before red pillers
4]She'll bang away whoever she wants at any time because he won't do dıck about it. See #2.

It's the modern woman's M.O. painted by numbers.
 

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Women will always be attracted to a man who's higher value (or at the very least more "exciting") than the one she currently has. Game doesn't end when you end up in a relationship. You must maintain your value and her interest in you or some other guy is going to fvck her when your back is turned.
 

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she was the man in that relationship, she got watt she wanted. That poor AFC dude is for in a lot of hurt.

But you never truly know her relationship with the guy, maybe he was alpha and she was just b!tching about the BF etc. dont let little sh!tt like this or watt they say make you believe in anything or come to conclusions on watts going on in there personal lifes due to sh!t they say.
 

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Ok we're talking about "at work"...aren't we supposed to not "at work"...

I mean, today even, this week even, I come to find myself in a precarious situation with a customer (young feline flower chick - bisexual, I'd imagine, based upon WHERE she works - at a place a lot of gays/extreme liberals/smokers are hired in telemarketing...)

So I'm talking to her Yesterday and tell her that my former neighbor is a Vice President in this company she works at, she asks his name, I tell her, she says omg me and 3 other roommates stay in his 'former' house. I'm like damn, I did not know that she was apart of them girls there living there, just the one who worked at the pizza place did I know.

So today, she's obviously attracted to me, and nervous, when I'm around, and is checking me out/sizing me up (she must be 25 or 26 I'd imagine), she's thin, not much t!ts but great face and eyes, and I can tell she's under stress, I see her later and she's more attended to me and flirtier than in the morning. So I get home tonight and I see either Her or one of her roommates looking out the window from behind a curtain as I pull my truck into my driveway and sit there sifting through mail. They are 'locked on' to me now, talkin' about me, focused on me. I am IN their conversations now...as of yesterday. They know my status, that I could afford 2 of their houses if I wanted. They KNOW....that I'm hot property....and in turn, I KNOW that I will only FVCK them/her and not f'ing Marry such women. They are to be USED not supported. These are the women that I do not look for. These are American materialistic women. I have no care for them. I NEED a woman who does as I SAY...at ALL times, whether it be fixing my dinner or cleaning the house. That's old world woman, far and few between here in America, but these ones who see me for my money, mainly, and good-looks, secondly, and status, ah, maybe secondly, and good-looks thirdly cause I'm Older now, but still a hunk of burnin' love fo sho, fit, but my eyes are more tired=looking I'd imagine at 38, but I don't think they care, it's the OVERALL package and "look"...I just look wild, my hair is long and wavy like I don't give a fvck, kinda like Bo Duke from Dukes of Hazaard, just yeeeeee haaaaaw!!!! They want that, but I KNOW I'm dealing with American woman, only to be fvcked not married...
 

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VladPatton said:
3]Betas always get married before red pillers

I wonder if they both decided together that he should propose or if he just did it to keep her around? How do betas end up married?

How would a red piller go about it differently?

And I'd quite like to know what percentage of engaged couples actually marry.
 

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You're over-thinking it dude.

As women age their priorities shift from wanting a man who makes their vagina tingle to wanting a man they can control.

All women know the bloom of youth and beauty will eventually fade. They also know this is where 90% of their power over men comes from. Therefore, a woman wants to lock down a beta fag she can trust to be loyal before its too late.

Women know alphas have high standards and won't tolerate their crap very long. They only learn this as they ride the alpha c0ck carousel in their youth and find themselves getting continuously pumped and dumped and cheated on. They eventually realize they don't have the personality to make QUALITY or high status man love them. So they turn to the beta for security. The beta who has limited options. The beta who is desperate. She feels safe and secure here. She knows she can get fat, act like a c*nt and maybe even cheat without worrying about losing the beta. She knows the beta is stupid enough to marry her and if the marriage fails she can divorce him and take half is sh!t. :up:

Women are out for THEMSELVES 100% of the time no matter how well they hide it. Never forget this. Never be a white knight.
 

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^^^ Excellent post PHM. So, so true...
 

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PlayHer Man said:
You're over-thinking it dude.

As women age their priorities shift from wanting a man who makes their vagina tingle to wanting a man they can control.

All women know the bloom of youth and beauty will eventually fade. They also know this is where 90% of their power over men comes from. Therefore, a woman wants to lock down a beta fag she can trust to be loyal before its too late.

Women know alphas have high standards and won't tolerate their crap very long. They only learn this as they ride the alpha c0ck carousel in their youth and find themselves getting continuously pumped and dumped and cheated on. They eventually realize they don't have the personality to make QUALITY or high status man love them. So they turn to the beta for security. The beta who has limited options. The beta who is desperate. She feels safe and secure here. She knows she can get fat, act like a c*nt and maybe even cheat without worrying about losing the beta. She knows the beta is stupid enough to marry her and if the marriage fails she can divorce him and take half is sh!t. :up:



Women are out for THEMSELVES 100% of the time no matter how well they hide it. Never forget this. Never be a white knight.

I see plenty of women who are married to alpha males. If they were with a beta guy they'd drop him like a bad habit. Women want dominant men because beta men have no backbone. I highly doubt women would marry a desperate guy.
 

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skinnyguy said:
I see plenty of women who are married to alpha males. If they were with a beta guy they'd drop him like a bad habit. Women want dominant men because beta men have no backbone. I highly doubt women would marry a desperate guy.
not all women marry betas!
 

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PlayHer Man said:
You're over-thinking it dude.

As women age their priorities shift from wanting a man who makes their vagina tingle to wanting a man they can control.

All women know the bloom of youth and beauty will eventually fade. They also know this is where 90% of their power over men comes from. Therefore, a woman wants to lock down a beta fag she can trust to be loyal before its too late.

Women know alphas have high standards and won't tolerate their crap very long. They only learn this as they ride the alpha c0ck carousel in their youth and find themselves getting continuously pumped and dumped and cheated on. They eventually realize they don't have the personality to make QUALITY or high status man love them. So they turn to the beta for security. The beta who has limited options. The beta who is desperate. She feels safe and secure here. She knows she can get fat, act like a c*nt and maybe even cheat without worrying about losing the beta. She knows the beta is stupid enough to marry her and if the marriage fails she can divorce him and take half is sh!t. :up:

Women are out for THEMSELVES 100% of the time no matter how well they hide it. Never forget this. Never be a white knight.
Always spot on man!

Excellent post! The red pill is bitter, but it had to be taken!
Too bad I've already out reped you!
 
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