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I agree with these guys, once she says something like that she cant just take it back. You will never be able to trust her deep down and it wont be good for the relationship so just get out now. I speak from experience and wish I never took back the hor that said **** like that to me, now I...

Stay strong man, you'll get through it. Just keep busy and do like you're doing and you'll forget about her in no time. Just remember there's loads of other girls out there, no chick is that special.

If shes really good in bed then maybe keep her for a while , otherwise it looks like this relationship will go nowhere. You need a girl that is passionate about something, if not things will get very boring.

It's not just you man. My wife to be became born again along with her friend. Both of them stripped and both loved sex, my wife was pretty dirty had a great ass and was an awesome lay (were divorced now). She didnt go to church that much but she continued to think of herself in that light...

I do it to and not just with girls, its how my brains works. But as the other poster said having other girls as prospects helps a lot. If I only have one girl to think about then I will deffinatly overanalyzer her, which is BAD.

I have the same problem sometimes and like you there are times where I think I'm talking a lot and then get a comment about me being quiet. I just seem more content to chill and not always have to say something but maybe girls don't like that. Luckily once I warm up to a girl I'll talk quite a...

I wouldnt worry about it since you said you dont want to seduce her. Just be a bit nicer to her next time and I'm sure things will be fine.

I went through the same thing, not so much being an a$$ but being really forward which is something I never had done before. Now that I've experienced that I'm starting to balance out my approachs to something more inbetween. For me it was just a matter of seeing how far I could push the limits.

I agree just go with the flow. I had my first date in forever (was in an LTR before) and when I dropped her off I was thinking if I should go for it or not. Then when she was standing there I just walked up to her and kissed her on the lips without even flinching at which point she repsonded...

Let them ask you if they can be your girlfriend, not the otherway around.

Just stop calling her as much as you have been. Let her come to you. And if you think she is calling just to use you (as in a favor) then tell her you're the one busy.

Hey workrouter, good luck. I'm going through the same thing, only difference is the relationship I was in lased 11 years, so I got a lot of work to do. Like you I'm chalking it up to a big learning experience and am looking forward to the future. Maybe you could have salvaged this...

Well what's worse, you acting like its her fault all the time or you admitting it is your fault? I don't think women are logical enough to even be able to know who is at fault anyways, might as well go ahead an blame them then. Now if its a big thing you did wrong then maybe I can see owning...

Yea I'm well aware of that. She's not in my class anymore (they only last a month). People hook up here all the time though, not a huge deal.

No I'm a college teacher of course, hehe. (And I think shes like 25 anyways, I'm 31) I agree with your view though, she's basically throwing herself out there and I just called her on it. Maybe she's just an AW.

Let me get into a little more detail, maybe it will help. Shes in my class (im a teacher), I dont talk to her all month, then at the end she gives me a note with her email. I'm married at the time so don't contact her. She then starts to visit me (along with some other guys there) and keeps...

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She's only a 6.5 at best anyways so it's not even worth it. Funny how some of the uglier girls are the ones that play these games.

Interesting, my current conquest is also a headstrong pysch but I see these glimpses of the child like side come out now and then.

I know where you're at. Just got out of an 11 year relationship/marriage myself. After reading this forum I realized what a wuss I turned into being around my woman and letting her influence me. I starts slow and next thing you know... Thank god I realized my errors.