Do you actually enjoy approaching women #2025 (YES I DO!!!)

[jhonny9546]

How impressive that you get approached in spite of your short height. Totally invalidates the idea that you need to be tall to do well with the ladies.

It's impressive because it's contradictory.

When they see a contradiction they want to know why it works.

 

[GoodMan32]

Yes i do, and its a reminder, this is a statement i fully agree with it, and i believe it applies to men more than women, if you're a guy, the World is never coming to save you, but it is the opposite for women. Like one guy said, the world is not gonna change in the sense to adapt to your autism.

Yeah, that also only adds fuel to fire in which people and society, the world, they just expect us men to have common sense or the social intuition, for knowing how to be 100 percent creep-proof or weird-proof when interacting with women, and when a guy does mess up or have an embarassing interaction with a woman in which he does creep out the woman or makes her uncomfortable and he is sadly not aware of it until he see's her reaction, thats the painful embarassing part, it can easily make guys not want to bother to interact with women ever again, but at the same time, if a guy does that, thats a death-sentence to guarantee he won't have any women in his life.

Because the unfair reality is that, if a guy never interacts with women, he won't get them, but if a woman never interacts with men, she will still get men.

Sometimes i have had the mindset over the years that, women, not men, are the only gender that are owed a relationship, men are never owed anything from women, but it's like men owe women, but women never owe men.

Ok, hearing you have ASD explains a lot. It explains why we share some similar struggles (One common struggle being the fact we're both paranoid about coming across to a woman as creepy. Autists are prone to coming across as creepy without trying...and without even knowing what exactly is "creepy" about our behavior)

Neurotypical posters will never be able to fathom the unique struggles we face. Many neurotypical posters basically tell us to snap out of it.

That would be like if a man who's in a wheelchair vented on this forum about the unique struggles he faces in getting a woman, and I were to lecture him on how being in a wheelchair really doesn't hold him back, if I were to tell him "all you need to do is approach more gals," etc.

The difference, however, is I would never lecture a wheelchair-bound man like that. One, it would be insensitive of me. Two, being in a wheelchair comes with struggles I'm unable to imagine (and hopefully I never find out). So it really isn't my place to act like I know what it's like to be in a wheelchair.

You're damn right about how only a woman is owed success romantically/sexually; not a man. Which is all the more reason it pisses me off when male autists get accused of feeling owed. No, we don't feel owed success in the lady department. We simply want success in the lady department (and are angry about not getting more success)

One more thing I should mention: If I recall, you said you've had 3-4 instances where a woman came onto you.

All that means is there have been 3-4 instances you've been aware of. If your looks are good enough there have been 3-4 instances you know of, chances are you've had more instances where a woman came onto you; your ASD just caused you to miss the clues (same goes for me; I've probably had lots of opportunities I wasn't aware of)

 

[Gamisch]

Ok, hearing you have ASD explains a lot. It explains why we share some similar struggles (One common struggle being the fact we're both paranoid about coming across to a woman as creepy. Autists are prone to coming across as creepy without trying...and without even knowing what exactly is "creepy" about our behavior)

Neurotypical posters will never be able to fathom the unique struggles we face. Many neurotypical posters basically tell us to snap out of it.

That would be like if a man who's in a wheelchair vented on this forum about the unique struggles he faces in getting a woman, and I were to lecture him on how being in a wheelchair really doesn't hold him back, if I were to tell him "all you need to do is approach more gals," etc.

The difference, however, is I would never lecture a wheelchair-bound man like that. One, it would be insensitive of me. Two, being in a wheelchair comes with struggles I'm unable to imagine (and hopefully I never find out). So it really isn't my place to act like I know what it's like to be in a wheelchair.

You're damn right about how only a woman is owed success romantically/sexually; not a man. Which is all the more reason it pisses me off when male autists get accused of feeling owed. No, we don't feel owed success in the lady department. We simply want success in the lady department (and are angry about not getting more success)

One more thing I should mention: If I recall, you said you've had 3-4 instances where a woman came onto you.

All that means is there have been 3-4 instances you've been aware of. If your looks are good enough there have been 3-4 instances you know of, chances are you've had more instances where a woman came onto you; your ASD just caused you to miss the clues (same goes for me; I've probably had lots of opportunities I wasn't aware of)

If a man in a wheelchair is on Runnersforum.com spamming the board with questions then yeah, at some point people will get upset with it and ask him to shyte or get off the pot.

If a war breaks out tomorrow nobody cares who got what and every man gas to find ways to survive. Dating ain't no different. It's a (gender) like war without rules. Every man regardless of his flaws must fond ways to make it through.

Short black Indian Asian white no diploma arab fat poor nice guy ASD ect. We ALL fight for the same spots.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

Ok, hearing you have ASD explains a lot. It explains why we share some similar struggles (One common struggle being the fact we're both paranoid about coming across to a woman as creepy. Autists are prone to coming across as creepy without trying...and without even knowing what exactly is "creepy" about our behavior)

Neurotypical posters will never be able to fathom the unique struggles we face. Many neurotypical posters basically tell us to snap out of it.

That would be like if a man who's in a wheelchair vented on this forum about the unique struggles he faces in getting a woman, and I were to lecture him on how being in a wheelchair really doesn't hold him back, if I were to tell him "all you need to do is approach more gals," etc.

The difference, however, is I would never lecture a wheelchair-bound man like that. One, it would be insensitive of me. Two, being in a wheelchair comes with struggles I'm unable to imagine (and hopefully I never find out). So it really isn't my place to act like I know what it's like to be in a wheelchair.

You're damn right about how only a woman is owed success romantically/sexually; not a man. Which is all the more reason it pisses me off when male autists get accused of feeling owed. No, we don't feel owed success in the lady department. We simply want success in the lady department (and are angry about not getting more success)

One more thing I should mention: If I recall, you said you've had 3-4 instances where a woman came onto you.

All that means is there have been 3-4 instances you've been aware of. If your looks are good enough there have been 3-4 instances you know of, chances are you've had more instances where a woman came onto you; your ASD just caused you to miss the clues (same goes for me; I've probably had lots of opportunities I wasn't aware of)

yeah, thats why it is very enraging when people say to guys or men "don't be creepy or weird then", well okay, most guys are not specifically taught as to what is creepy/weird/uncomfortable behavior when interacting with women, thats another reminder on how people and society just expect us guys to naturally "get it", for knowing how to NEVER be creepy or weird, or never make women uncomfortable when approaching/pursuing/making advances on them.

 

[GoodMan32]

If a man in a wheelchair is on Runnersforum.com spamming the board with questions then yeah, at some point people will get upset with it and ask him to shyte or get off the pot.

If a war breaks out tomorrow nobody cares who got what and every man gas to find ways to survive. Dating ain't no different. It's a (gender) like war without rules. Every man regardless of his flaws must fond ways to make it through.

Short black Indian Asian white no diploma arab fat poor nice guy ASD ect. We ALL fight for the same spots.

The difference is I've gotten dates/free sex before. So I know I'm capable.

The wheelchair guy will (unfortunately) never be able to run.

 

[GoodMan32]

yeah, thats why it is very enraging when people say to guys or men "don't be creepy or weird then", well okay, most guys are not specifically taught as to what is creepy/weird/uncomfortable behavior when interacting with women, thats another reminder on how people and society just expect us guys to naturally "get it", for knowing how to NEVER be creepy or weird, or never make women uncomfortable when approaching/pursuing/making advances on them.

And while neurotypical men will likely be pretty good at learning what's "creepy" if taught, we (autists) will always run into the problem where our instinct is prone to "creepiness" (Yeah, we can learn about a few specific behaviors that are creepy, and thus refrain from said behaviors. But there are thousands of instinctual behaviors that can never be trained out of us)

 

[Gamisch]

The difference is I've gotten dates/free sex before. So I know I'm capable.

The wheelchair guy will (unfortunately) never be able to run.

I think that after four years your dating history gets erased.

That's makes you a virgin by now.

 

[GoodMan32]

I think that after four years your dating history gets erased.

That's makes you a virgin by now.

A large part of the reason it's been almost 4 years since I last had non-escort sex is lack of effort.

It wasn't until relatively recently that I decided I want to crawl out of the rut I'm in.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

And while neurotypical men will likely be pretty good at learning what's "creepy" if taught, we (autists) will always run into the problem where our instinct is prone to "creepiness" (Yeah, we can learn about a few specific behaviors that are creepy, and thus refrain from said behaviors. But there are thousands of instinctual behaviors that can never be trained out of us)

i know people will always say to never compare ourselves to others, but the types of guys, men, who i envy and resent the most, whom have never once in their entire life, been labeled or perceived as creepy or weird, making women uncomfortable when approaching or making advances on them, sure yes they have been rejected, rejection happens to everyone, for me personally, its not rejection that bothers me, its the manner or way in which it happens.

If a woman rejects me because she was never interested in the first place, i can accept that, but if i accidentally made her uncomfortable or creeped her out, get perceived as weird, made her uncomfortable, thats the painful embarassing feeling. It makes me and i'm sure tons of men who have gone through that, feel like a mental/social retard.

Another fuel to fire in which people and society just expect us guys, men, to naturally understand and get it, they expect us to like be born with the instinctive knowledge of how to never behave creepy or weird, uncomfortable around women, and if we men make social mistakes that cause women to react negatively like that, people and society and the law will usually not be so forgiving towards men, men will suffer social consequences, like getting kicked out of a bar for example, and yes, obviously women can get away with never ending up in a situation like that because women are never expected to make advances on a guy they like, and if the roles were reversed, womens advances will never under any circumstances be viewed as creepy or weird, dangerous, thats the harsh double-standard there, but it makes sense though.

And the mindset me and many guys have, let's say if we were to actually get better at approaching/talking to women, interacting with them, attracting them, getting results, the scars or wounds, bad memories, from all of those painful/awkward interactions that happend with women will never completely/fully heal, the pain will never go away completely.

Another thing that has also filled me with anger and rage a lot over the years, is people and society, like to say us guys, men, are supposed to enjoy/embrace the role of taking the lead and approaching, making the first move, being the initiator, they always make arguments like "us men have it better because we don't have to wait like women do, we don't have to do the waiting".

That enrages me a lot, because thats like saying men can literally get results with women anytime they want, which is complete BS, just because a guy approaches and makes advances, pursues, takes the lead, initiates, there is no guarantee the woman, or women, are gonna be receptive to his advances. Thats one thing i will never understand when people and society argue that men have it better because they don't have to do the waiting around.

Reminds me of a comment one guy said years ago i will never forgot, it got me so mad, its not appropriate for me to say what was on my mind when i read what he wrote.

But yeah, the creepy-weird/uncomfortable label, double-standard, is the main thing i've always hated about the state of affairs, social dynamics between men and women.

 

[Zaser]

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