Who "enjoys" approaching women?

H8CourtshipWithAPassion

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Hell yeah I've had mentors along the way.

One of the main things I've learned by way of coaching/advice is this logical principle..

You do NOT need to take women out on dates first, in order to get them in the bed.

This is contrary to how most men think, as it has been ingrained in our minds that a date is the first step in sleeping with a woman.

However, I've learned that this is not necessarily true...and knowing what I know now, my "dating" life has improved.
you sought help from PUAs or seduction coaches?
 

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you sought help from PUAs or seduction coaches?
Yes, but more so dating (loose term) coaches.

But I will tell you what; after I gained experience after being out in the field, I began to adopt my own philosophies and strategies.

Shout out to all those who've helped me along the way.

Special shout out to Mr.Locario, and Alan Roger Currie (RIP).

Those two have been the most influential to how I approach dating.
 

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yup there never has been and never will be a way around this for guys men, men will never have the luxury of women pursuing them or hitting on them, shooting their shot with them, making advances on them.

As for me, i look at rejection from a different perspective now, its not rejection that hurts, i'm aware that i won't be compatible with every woman, obviously not every woman will like me and i won't like every woman either.

Its mainly the risk of being labeled or thrown the creepy label, getting perceived as weird or making the woman uncomfortable, thats the part i mainly hate the most about men always having to approach women, it also angers me a lot because it seems people and society have always expected men to just naturally have the social intuition, the social calibration, they expect us to have common sense for knowing what is creepy weird behavior around women and what is not.

Reminds me of a certain comment that was kinda moving.
One woman’s creep is another woman’s confident man . Sounds creepy saying that but even approaching women during daygame I had a lot of different interpretations to how I was perceived . Some women didn’t want to give contact information out to a stranger on the street , some where overwhelmed by it but others said it made their day and they loved the confidence and wished other men were as confident as me. So there’s obviously alot of vast differences per 100 approaches I guess as long as I’m having a net positive effect overall then it’s fine. Has I not approached so many women I of course would not have my girlfriend today so even the women who found me to be creepy or rejected me … well I eventually got my success . The most negative group in terms of reactions tended to be the heavily religious and conservative women though.
 

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One woman’s creep is another woman’s confident man . Sounds creepy saying that but even approaching women during daygame I had a lot of different interpretations to how I was perceived . Some women didn’t want to give contact information out to a stranger on the street , some where overwhelmed by it but others said it made their day and they loved the confidence and wished other men were as confident as me. So there’s obviously alot of vast differences per 100 approaches I guess as long as I’m having a net positive effect overall then it’s fine. Has I not approached so many women I of course would not have my girlfriend today so even the women who found me to be creepy or rejected me … well I eventually got my success . The most negative group in terms of reactions tended to be the heavily religious and conservative women though.
yes to sum it up, its not rejection that hurts, its the way that it happens that has the biggest affect me on, as in, not wanting to feel like i violated the womans boundaries or made her feel uncomfortable, is an embarassing feeling, makes me feel very stupid.
 

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I've also concluded if a man is relegated to doing cold approaches to get a woman, he did something wrong, or something went wrong for him in life.
Absolutely not. What a bizarre conclusion.

A guy who does cold approach isn't 'relegated' and it isn't indicative that 'something went wrong for him in life'.

If anything, it's the exact opposite. Guys who know about cold approach and who get good at it are incredibly lucky and are on a higher level than most guys in society. They have a much greater choice of women and are much more in control of their dating and sex life than guys who don't know about (or can't) cold approach.

It's guys who don't cold approach who are 'relegated'.... they're relegated to only meeting women through limited or artificial means like social circles, work, dating/hook up apps or social events.....but a guy who does cold approach doesn't have such limitations - he can approach any girl, any time, any place so has much greater control and choice with regards to his dating and sex life.

So don't look at cold approach as if 'something went wrong in a guy's life'. Nope. The fact that he's doing cold approach means he's incredibly fortunate to have found out about it and has a skill very few guys possess. It's 100% a good thing if a guy is able to cold approach (and be successful at it)!
 

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Maybe you should focus on approaching one that would be aligned with your values and interests.
How do you know whether a girl is 'aligned with your values and interests' BEFORE you approach her?! Lol, so you're gonna walk round looking at girls, trying to read their minds, and be like 'I wonder if that chick is aligned with my values and interests...nope, can't approach her!'

Lol buddy. The only way you're gonna find out if a girl is 'aligned with your values and interests' is to approach her and talk to her. There's no way you can know that before you approach unless you're some sort of mind reader.
 

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I don't exactly enjoy it.

I much prefer hitting on a woman I've never met before vs hitting on a woman I already know, however.
 
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If you are very handsome, successful and young guy with money, then you probably enjoy it a lot.

I am only so-so handsome, quite successful, and I was engaging women until I was 35 before I decided that I met wife-material so tbh I never really enjoyed it because too often I received the "I don't think so" look ;) . I felt the thrill when I managed to set up a date, but otherwise it was irritating and tiresome experience for me.
 

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I hate it with a passion, cause I have hardly any experience in even having female friends let alone girlfriends.

I'm afraid she'll reject me and embarass me, or I'll screw up.
I feel ya.

I hate it when gals trivialize the rejection risk us men face by saying "A man is afraid a woman will laugh at him. A woman is afraid a guy will murder her."

Yeah, it's true we're less likely to die at the hands of a romantic interest than a woman is. Still though, the humiliation a woman can put us through can cause us to live an unfulfilling life (because we've developed a crippling phobia of asking a woman out)

Take it from me. I'm 33, yet have only been on 2 dates in the past 9 years (and only had non-escort sex once in the past 9 years). Humiliations I was put through by girls when I was in high school still impact me to this day.

Many would say I'm living without really living. So in a way, the gals really have killed me (figuratively speaking)
 

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I feel ya.

I hate it when gals trivialize the rejection risk us men face by saying "A man is afraid a woman will laugh at him. A woman is afraid a guy will murder her."

Yeah, it's true we're less likely to die at the hands of a romantic interest than a woman is. Still though, the humiliation a woman can put us through can cause us to live an unfulfilling life (because we've developed a crippling phobia of asking a woman out)

Take it from me. I'm 33, yet have only been on 2 dates in the past 9 years (and only had non-escort sex once in the past 9 years). Humiliations I was put through by girls when I was in high school still impact me to this day.

Many would say I'm living without really living. So in a way, the gals really have killed me (figuratively speaking)
Dude, you have replied to a post that was made by a 45 year old guy on October 8, 2001. It sounds like a middle-aged incel like guys' post (ie similar to my type of posts, but it was made in 2001).

It is worth noting, for the record, that nothing has really changed between 2001 and today. It's just the face of middle-aged people has changed. I'm now middle-aged today, but I was a young adult in University in 2001. You were probably a teenager.

What excuse does someone in 2001 have to lean on to post like that? They can't blame Tinder, or Chad or the #Me-Too movement, or some crazy lady puting up a Tic Tok video to shame a guy she doesn't find attractive that approached her, etc.... It sounds as though, if were were put into a time-machine, and put back in time, before social media, and when the internet was young, and we lived a longer portion of our lives before the internet, do you realize we would be saying the same thing?
 

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Dude, you have replied to a post that was made by a 45 year old guy on October 8, 2001. It sounds like a middle-aged incel like guys' post (ie similar to my type of posts, but it was made in 2001).

It is worth noting, for the record, that nothing has really changed between 2001 and today. It's just the face of middle-aged people has changed. I'm now middle-aged today, but I was a young adult in University in 2001. You were probably a teenager.

What excuse does someone in 2001 have to lean on to post like that? They can't blame Tinder, or Chad or the #Me-Too movement, or some crazy lady puting up a Tic Tok video to shame a guy she doesn't find attractive that approached her, etc.... It sounds as though, if were were put into a time-machine, and put back in time, before social media, and when the internet was young, and we lived a longer portion of our lives before the internet, do you realize we would be saying the same thing?
Yeah, I saw after I had already replied that the post was made in 2001. Looks like somebody else revived the thread the day after Christmas; I wasn't aware the thread was more than 2 decades old :eek: (Incidentally, the poster I quoted from 2001 is still active. I wonder how his luck with the ladies is at 45 vs when he made that post in his early 20s)

I wasn't even a teen yet in 2001. I was a 10 year old 5th grader. How quickly the years have passed.

I'd say a lot has changed since 2001. As you indicated, there was no Tinder, Me Too, or TikTok in 2001. Social media and swipe apps in particular have made the landscape a lot different.

You're right, however, that even before the internet was huge, men complained about bad luck with the ladies. That's because we/they didn't know anything different back then. Their/our mentality was "This sucks; I wish it were easier to get a girl/woman"

Little did they/we know, however, that the first decade of the 21st century would end up looking mighty easy (in terms of getting girls) in hindsight come 2025.

I was in high school from 2005-09. I remember complaining a lot about bad luck with girls back then. If I could get into a time machine to be my current age (33) in the 2005-09 era, however, and I had the knowledge of how much 2025 would suck, I'd take advantage of the comparatively easy 2005-09 environment.

Social media had just become somewhat mainstream when I entered high school (the MySpace era). There was no Instagram. Dating sites were still somewhat stigmatized (and the dating sites back then were strictly desktop; no swipe apps)
 

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One's own thoughts and beliefs dictate just how much discomfort and unease he'll experience when approaching a woman

Hint: Walk in thinking to yourself "This likely won't end nearly so sourly as Aubrey Plaza's search for her husband did, when she rolled over in bed, only to find his side emptier than the shores of Hilton Head, come mid-December"...

Any anxiety you might have experienced is guaranteed a drastically reduction
 

Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Dude, you have replied to a post that was made by a 45 year old guy on October 8, 2001. It sounds like a middle-aged incel like guys' post (ie similar to my type of posts, but it was made in 2001).

It is worth noting, for the record, that nothing has really changed between 2001 and today. It's just the face of middle-aged people has changed. I'm now middle-aged today, but I was a young adult in University in 2001. You were probably a teenager.

What excuse does someone in 2001 have to lean on to post like that? They can't blame Tinder, or Chad or the #Me-Too movement, or some crazy lady puting up a Tic Tok video to shame a guy she doesn't find attractive that approached her, etc.... It sounds as though, if were were put into a time-machine, and put back in time, before social media, and when the internet was young, and we lived a longer portion of our lives before the internet, do you realize we would be saying the same thing?
What's changed today? The availability of 24 hour, on-demand entertainment, to a degree unseen in human history prior. When a fella can endlessly escape* from the hardships of life by retreating into fantasy worlds, an extraordinary amount of motivation is then required for him to invest in activities which are likely to enrich his existence, in some tangible way




*Note: We aren't even really "escaping" the hardships of life. We're just ignoring their existence, and hoping for the existing social order to fall, so that we can build a Red Pill Kingdom of Heaven On Earth. Ya know... A world where every man is a 1%er, and has a centerfold for a wife, who never gives him a moment's trouble, becomes ill, or ages

The Manosphere instilled in many guys an Alt-Right rendition of the fantasy that Progressives have long dreamed of... "Let's create a Utopia where everyone has the exact same amount of money, prejudice and bias no longer exists, state of the art health care is available for all at the drop of a hat, everyone eats vegan, lives in huts, and leaves no carbon footprint"
 
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