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[darksprezzatura]

Currently I’m in a five star taking a dump writing this with two cute women outside, one of them bisexual - really just a genuine friend though. The other I slept with last night after meeting her for the first time. My battery is 1% I’m gonna dip. Be back later

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Sorry guys. I haven’t been active here at all, I don’t remember if any of the OGs still hit this place or if anybody even remembers me.

I just came here for a quick update, or maybe to keep this post as a journal for myself.

This might seem like humble bragging, and maybe partially even is.

I work remotely, and I am sleeping with over 15 girls at the same time.

I travel different cities to sleep with a new girl, and then they tend to chase a bit even travel over to sleep with me.

In the last one month, I’ve slept with over 20 new girls, some of which don’t want to see me again, which is fine. But most are open to regular sex.

Now I have issues remembering their names and locations and their stories and who they are or what they do etc.

We have chatter about abundance, but for me, managing so many women is draining a lot of time and energy. It’s not how it looks like.

The chaos makes me drink way more regularly, I am not as focused on my work as I used to. Now I’m often happy if a woman cancels on me as that means I have time for myself or other women.

I want to go back to my dialled in headspace, focused on work, workout, health and diet. Getting some sun, good sleep. Make a new resume, leverage better income, build a business, invest in financial instruments. But I feel like I’m procrastinating and pvssy is my escape along with alcohol.

What I feel like doing is get some therapy, this is not a good way to live as other parts of my life are getting affected. Having options is great but there’s diminishing returns as well as a downward trend to quality of life after one point in time.

Well chase your own excellence not ***** cats. Makes your life more interesting, balanced and sane.

 

[darksprezzatura]

Okay so this girl is going, another girl is downstairs waiting in the lobby so I need to book this girl a quick uber, I’m sort of anxious.

But always err to the side of caution and don’t **** it up, make them wait instead of showing your cards, because you gotta protect their heart too even if you’re honest about being a player and telling women that you’re unattached and not in a relationship w them

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

Interesting, as molly is an internal change. Does this mean that the secret is internal. I mean, why would molly help.

What is ECSTASY/MDMA?
Ecstasy/MDMA acts as both a stimulant and hallucinogen, producing an energizing effect, distortions in time and perception, and enhanced enjoyment of tactile experiences.
Adolescents and young adults use it to reduce inhibitions and to promote:
• Euphoria, feelings of closeness, empathy, and sexuality
Known as a party drug, ecstasy comes in pill or powder form; pill has a variety of logos and colors.

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However if you get the same from just change location, then it is more than internal....

The problem is that a lot of things are internal but its more complicated then that. Drugs can make almost any situation more interesting and fun. On meth, you might be able to enjoy long boring discourse on accounting for example. On molly, you could enjoy certain women more, hell, you could even enjoy sitting in a dentist's office on molly.

If you rely on super elevated neurotransmitters to do something then that means that the natural chemistry is not really there which is why my final conclusion is to find a place where you have natural chemistry with the people and environment.

Also, yes, if you have way more euphoria, it is easier to do better with American women but when you are being natural, you quickly notice how rude and uncharming most women are here. If you could somehow not notice how rude and uncharming women are here and just push through that then in theory you could get laid more but it might not be a very enjoyable process. Kind of like wading through a pile of sh1t to get to the gold.

 

[darksprezzatura]

Now I’m waiting for the fourth girl to come to the same room tonight. She’s travelling for an hour to sleep with me. I’ve booked a $400 room today, to sleep with multiple girls.

These girls are all 22-28. I’m just drinking right now, trying to get housekeeping to clean up my mess asap. A big problem is to handle timings, that one girl leaves before the other arrives on time

 

[darksprezzatura]

A big fvck up was, one of the girls left me a love letter and hid it, and I didn’t know and the third girl saw it and knew I’m upto no good. I had to deny all of that saying she’s just a friend. All of that. I did tell her I sleep with multiple girls but girls take a huge hit if you tell them that you had sex with 2 other girls a few hours ago

 

[BPH]

No I believe you because I lived like that for years before deciding to get my sh1t together and moving out to live on my own (your sex life will get a lot better. Trust me). As an honest person yourself, you can't comprehend why someone would go to such lengths to fabricate made up fairy tales for male readers online. I've just been around long enough to notice the red flags that it's just laughable to me.

Still, I understand that not everyone has been around long enough as me (read: naive), and can't discern fact from fiction, so it does me a disservice to not call it out when I see it.

I'm starting to see your point here...1 hour of work, 12 hours of studying, somehow has time to meet hundreds and close 20+ attractive women per month.

 

[plumber]

The problem is that a lot of things are internal but its more complicated then that. Drugs can make almost any situation more interesting and fun. On meth, you might be able to enjoy long boring discourse on accounting for example. On molly, you could enjoy certain women more, hell, you could even enjoy sitting in a dentist's office on molly.

If you rely on super elevated neurotransmitters to do something then that means that the natural chemistry is not really there which is why my final conclusion is to find a place where you have natural chemistry with the people and environment.

Also, yes, if you have way more euphoria, it is easier to do better with American women but when you are being natural, you quickly notice how rude and uncharming most women are here. If you could somehow not notice how rude and uncharming women are here and just push through that then in theory you could get laid more but it might not be a very enjoyable process. Kind of like wading through a pile of sh1t to get to the gold.

yea, I get it.

I was thinking that the affect is to make us more social, less filter, more bold, and attentive. This happens naturally in when in an environment that we perceive self as important.

Our view of self, gets projected. Women respond based on our self projection. Or something like that....

the rub is that women in west can be very charming if they are interested and eastern can be very nasty if they are not interested.

 

[DJ Novice]

The more women you gave in your life, the less time you have, the more complicated the logistics will be, the more money you spend, the more exhausted you will be and the more drama you have.

If you are just after different s*xual experiences then eventually the pursuit of hedonism will become unfulfilling and empty as it is a bottomless pit you can never fill. Dan Bilzerian has spoken about this.

Like most things in life the law of diminishing marginal returns also applies to women.

I still work full time and for me seeing 3 women at a time is too much. Two is plenty. If you are retired or travel a lot like the OP then maybe you can handle more.

 

[Solomon]

Hi Solomen,
"For work-life balance optimization, two Strong Plates and a Floater work best IME. However, if you have these options, get rid of all them and just make the best one your girlfriend."Pretty much agree with the "Flying Dutchman"here,it also seems contradictory...I am also puzzled by the term"Floater"....Is it analogous to having an understudy in the wings?

Floater= A woman who you see once or twice that isn't around to long not usuaslly by choice but circumstance i.e. she

Hi Solomen,
"For work-life balance optimization, two Strong Plates and a Floater work best IME. However, if you have these options, get rid of all them and just make the best one your girlfriend."Pretty much agree with the "Flying Dutchman"here,it also seems contradictory...I am also puzzled by the term"Floater"....Is it analogous to having an understudy in the wings?

Floater= A woman you go out with or hang out with usually once or twice

These women tend to not last long enough to write home about

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

These girls are all 22-28. I’m just drinking right now, trying to get housekeeping to clean up my mess asap. A big problem is to handle timings, that one girl leaves before the other arrives on time

Ah, that's why you call them plates. Break one and you have to buy her. Something.

A big fvck up was, one of the girls left me a love letter and hid it, and I didn’t know and the third girl saw it and knew I’m upto no good. I had to deny all of that saying she’s just a friend. All of that. I did tell her I sleep with multiple girls but girls take a huge hit if you tell them that you had sex with 2 other girls a few hours ago

So you first lie to them, and then you overshare? Why would you tell them?

 

[darksprezzatura]

Ah, that's why you call them plates. Break one and you have to buy her. Something.


So you first lie to them, and then you overshare? Why would you tell them?

I don’t know, I don’t want to hurt them and don’t want to completely blindside them either.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I don’t know, I don’t want to hurt them and don’t want to completely blindside them either.

You're being duplicitous because you do know. You don't want to hurt them, but you do and you don't seem to care enough to stop your behaviour. And you don't want to completely blindside them, but partially blindsiding is fine. The problem is that you take 'game' too seriously as a game and you're using dehumanised women as pawns. And you should own up to that. If not to them, at least to yourself.

Like I said before, back in my teens and early twenties when I was called a 'social butterfly' and my relationships with 5-10 women were casual and quite superficial by necessity. And I admit to being selfish and not spending much time on the women I had sex with.

And I quickly realised that if I wanted to have more satisfactory sex, I had to invest more time in my lovers, so I scaled down to 2-3 lovers and had longer lasting relationships with them.

However, to have deeper relationships also required being more forthcoming in the beginning so women know without a doubt that you're not exclusive and not looking for a committed relationship. The upside is that you don't need to cheat; you don't need to be worried about your 'timing'; and you don't have to keep track of all the lies you need to tell them; when you stop being duplicitous.

 

[sangheilios]

He's been around for years. Pops in & out. He's stated in years past that he's a handsome dude.

Sometimes men are THAT attractive. Before I started dating my first husband I dated a man who was the most beautiful man I'd ever seen until my second husband...He was a male model who did runway in Milan, catalogue and fragrance (the Holy Grail of male modeling) and other stuff. Women flocked to him; it made him uncomfortable all the attention. When I met him he was literally surrounded by 6 attractive women vying for his attention. He waved me over. I laughed, waved him off and kept walking. He deserted those other women and followed me outside, he wanted MY attention. He was an intelligent, ambitious man. He felt trapped at times in his body because he could not escape attention from women, most of whom he didn't find attractive & most of whom wanted him as a trophy.....

So ya its possible.

You have issues, you need to see a therapist.

 

[Bigpapa]

It's actually better for his sake that this is all a fabrication. Because when you actually are sleeping with extremely beautiful hot girls, your not going to keep seeking others. 1 or 2 very beautiful hot girls and your good (1 girlfriend and 1 casual fvckbuddy) Can focus on other things. It's only when your sleeping with average looking girls that you continue searching for other girls because your not sleeping with the top girls. Been there myself. May end up sleeping with 20 in a month.

In Europe, especially Berlin, there are these sex clubs, where basically people go to do drugs and have orgies

theoretically if you go to these places and have a very high sex drive, you could sleep with 10-20 girls a night

but the quality from what I have heard is not that great. Really infrequently you find above average girls

but if you are into these type of orgy places / sect / similar things like this, you could sleep with 20 girls per month on average, just that the average quality most likely will be at best average if not below average

but pickup is not about getting laid with all cost, it is more about picking up normal girls, and not about going to puff daddy type of freak shows

i am an attractive guy myself and i find very difficult to maintain a very high standard for quality, especially if i want volume. But even if i only focus on quality and ignore the volume, it would still be very difficult to maintain a top tier quality

The competition for real top quality girls is so intense, that most of the time i think that is more a matter of luck than skill ( if you do not have any type of social game )

 

[BeExcellent]

i am an attractive guy myself and i find very difficult to maintain a very high standard for quality, especially if i want volume. But even if i only focus on quality and ignore the volume, it would still be very difficult to maintain a top tier quality

The competition for real top quality girls is so intense, that most of the time i think that is more a matter of luck than skill ( if you do not have any type of social game )

The above is true. Men have really NO idea the kind of abundance a top tier woman actually experiences. She can be very choosy because she has mind boggling options available All. The. Time.

Why is chastity valuable in a beautiful woman? I'll tell you why. Because it indicates self control in the face of endless temptation. A top tier woman could get sex whenever she says yes. Daily, More than daily. Whenever she goes anywhere. Easy. Every man wants her. How does she handle that & conduct herself? It is self restraint that is the value of chastity. It's like putting an alcoholic in the liquor cage at the bar with an unlimited tab. And then him not drowning in drink. That takes tremendous character. The difference is that for the top tier woman, oportunity is literally everywhere. It cannot be escaped. Ever. Well not until time relieves her of that burden/responsibility, and I can tell you from experience its kind of nice for that constant pressure of knowing what the guy *really* wants to finally wane.

So it takes great character to exercise restraint in that landscape.

Lets say a woman has 1000 opportunities to have sex with different men and she has sex with 10 men, most of whom she has some type longer term interaction with.....that is saying yes to only 1% of her actual opportunities based on numbers alone. That's pretty selective statistically speaking

In a reverse way men who are players are valued because of the relative difficulty in reaching serious abundance with women in the first place. Men who figure out how to get women to say yes to sex frequently are just as unusual as a woman with enough self respect/restraint to say no 99% of the time opportunity arises.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I want a woman who is empathetic, caring, emotionally stable/string, has a high libido, tall, has things to do as in a life, career and so on. A strong family background is beneficial

So you're the male equivalent of a woman who's on the hunt for a tall, dark, handsome multi-billionaire, who


-Loves kids

-Is the greatest father to have ever lived

-Makes her drench the sheets each and every time they bang

-Never hurts her emotionally in any way, even if unintentionally


-Doesn't so much as daydream about taking a woman other than her to bed

We may be reaching gender parity, in terms of unrealistic expectations

 

[DJ Novice]

A few women I have dated around 50 or so (I’m 56) have commented that they will lose interest in s*x eventually when I say that physical compatibility is important to me. It’s not what I want to hear; it’s like they are looking forward to it.

I also found it unbelievable through talking to dates that women can go for multiple days on end without even thinking about s*x or getting laid. Just shows how much the level of testosterone impacts the s*xes.

 

[SW15]

Lets say a woman has 1000 opportunities to have sex with different men and she has sex with 10 men, most of whom she has some type longer term interaction with.....that is saying yes to only 1% of her actual opportunities based on numbers alone. That's pretty selective statistically speaking

That's more selective than Harvard University on its undergrad admissions.

I work remotely, and I am sleeping with over 15 girls at the same time.

I travel different cities to sleep with a new girl, and then they tend to chase a bit even travel over to sleep with me.

In the last one month, I’ve slept with over 20 new girls, some of which don’t want to see me again, which is fine. But most are open to regular sex.

This is a dream sex life for a lot of men.

This is exactly what I recommend in my program. You want the 3 highest quality women. More is unmanageable. For example I used to have a Tuesday gal, and one for Thursday and Saturday. They need to be in reasonable driving distance, and you want them either coming over to your place or going over to theirs.

Keeping a near constant rotation of 2-3 women is good. Having sex with 2-3 women simultaneously at any given time will be a man living a sexually abundant lifestyle.

 

[darksprezzatura]

Okay, I’m settled back at my home for the week. Taking it slow, I have lost count of the women I slept with in the last month. I travelled to 7 different cities, working remotely.

On a daily basis, I’ve slept on an average one new girl a day, I’ve planned on an average 2 dates a day, with some days I’m just working non stop, taking me days, sunbaths, playing with my pets, and some days meeting 4 girls, usually sleeping with 3.

I have moderated my drinking, and unhealthy eating habits, I’m smoking less too.