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Closed mouths don't get fed. I am a 7,5/8 (? A good day, yet my "closed mouth doesn't get fed" neither if I don't take action. I've learned that the hard way. Mind you, I am the type of guy that you would consider "lucky " with women. I approached one boom ltr. So basically I didn't learn any pick up game from that perspective.

Now most of my lays come from OLD but I hate using old. So...crickets. tho I am not a bad looking dude, no woman will fall out of the sky and appear magically on my doorstep. Same for you ,corrector and anyone else who feels like he's struggling. You HAVE to take action. If you (like me sometimes) fo whatever reason don't feel like taking action that's fine. Just remember that if you DO want some you gotta go through the trenches..

And no that dude does NOT look better tha the woman. Far from it. The metrics we use to gage attractiveness from either men or women are different. The woman has a somewhat cute smile, isn't fat or butt ugly. Dude looks miserable like a skinny shrimp. That's just looks tho.
 

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Closed mouths don't get fed. I am a 7,5/8 (? A good day, yet my "closed mouth doesn't get fed" neither if I don't take action. I've learned that the hard way. Mind you, I am the type of guy that you would consider "lucky " with women. I approached one boom ltr. So basically I didn't learn any pick up game from that perspective.

Now most of my lays come from OLD but I hate using old. So...crickets. tho I am not a bad looking dude, no woman will fall out of the sky and appear magically on my doorstep. Same for you ,corrector and anyone else who feels like he's struggling. You HAVE to take action. If you (like me sometimes) fo whatever reason don't feel like taking action that's fine. Just remember that if you DO want some you gotta go through the trenches..

And no that dude does NOT look better tha the woman. Far from it. The metrics we use to gage attractiveness from either men or women are different. The woman has a somewhat cute smile, isn't fat or butt ugly. Dude looks miserable like a skinny shrimp. That's just looks tho.
Love getting laid, hate chasing a$$. That is lyrics from the song Payday from Classified. A song I usually play on a bad day the same week I am getting paid, lol. Comparing getting a paycheque to getting laid, as to contrast working at a job you hate to chasing women sounds like a fitting analogy.
 

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Closed mouths don't get fed. I am a 7,5/8 (? A good day, yet my "closed mouth doesn't get fed" neither if I don't take action. I've learned that the hard way. Mind you, I am the type of guy that you would consider "lucky " with women. I approached one boom ltr. So basically I didn't learn any pick up game from that perspective.

Now most of my lays come from OLD but I hate using old. So...crickets. tho I am not a bad looking dude, no woman will fall out of the sky and appear magically on my doorstep. Same for you ,corrector and anyone else who feels like he's struggling. You HAVE to take action. If you (like me sometimes) fo whatever reason don't feel like taking action that's fine. Just remember that if you DO want some you gotta go through the trenches..

And no that dude does NOT look better tha the woman. Far from it. The metrics we use to gage attractiveness from either men or women are different. The woman has a somewhat cute smile, isn't fat or butt ugly. Dude looks miserable like a skinny shrimp. That's just looks tho.
Good (but disappointing) to know even a 7.5-8 needs to take action.

As for the Vice interview with the incel, I suppose everyone has different taste. @SW15, however (a poster known for his high standards), said on a recent post that the incel has better looks than the female journalist.

Of course the incel looks miserable. He's an incel. He has good looks underneath that misery, however. As for the skinny thing, that's once again a matter of preference. Some broads won't go for a skinny guy. I recall some of the alternative/emo/punk chicks at my high school, however, saying they don't like the overly meaty look of muscular guys.

As an analogy, some men don't like the artificial look of Playboy bunnies, even though some men are infatuated with Playboy bunnies.
 

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Love getting laid, hate chasing a$$. That is lyrics from the song Payday from Classified. A song I usually play on a bad day the same week I am getting paid, lol. Comparing getting a paycheque to getting laid, as to contrast working at a job you hate to chasing women sounds like a fitting analogy.
If you're into alternative/pop punk, you'd love the song She Mannequin by All American Rejects.

The song is about a guy having dreams where he's with his perfect girl, yet coming to the realization she'll never be anything more than a dream.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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True, you mentioned you would get an ego boost at the possibility of having sex. I carry around $80 for an incall Spanish hooker that I know I will never use. Does it feel good that there is a girl who cant say no, or would even ask you if you want to fvck her if you act lile a total clueless dweeb during the session itself (which again I could, and had in fact in the past turned down an offer of sex by a prostitute. (Felt more ripped off then good but it kept my sanity enough to visit another escort). I have all the incall locations that I can just walk into, pick a Spanish girl, and be naked together with her. Yet no sex will happen because I am not married to her. Probably end up.dancing or cuddling, if at that.

In terms of civvies, there are too much social barriers as it is. Even a nice hi and hi back would be an ego boost. In fact, I flipped a coin, heads or tails to approach that lady who rejected me at work. Two times I did not approach because of the coin flip. Third coin flip I ended up approaching and we said to each other. It felt good I did that since I am still infatuated a bit with the same girl who rejected me. Like I cant help who I like. Like I am secretly hoping she will.change her mind, lol
It's been mentioned on this forum that some broads use dating apps solely for validation, with no intention of meeting up with or banging any men from the app.

I suppose I'm somewhat the male equivalent (As even though I'd be willing to meet up with fertile broads for dates, I know I'm probably going to chicken out of sex. The fact I'd chicken out of sex doesn't matter though, seeing as the mere fact the broad went on a date with me would give me validation. And as you pointed out, if the broad offered me sex, even if I turned down the sex, the mere offer would give me some major validation)

In conclusion, the difference between myself and the attention wh0re broads on dating apps is that it takes more than simply giving me attention on the app to give me validation; I need in-person validation.
 

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the female journalist.
Elle Reeve is the female journalist from that 2018 video. She looked better in the 2018 video than the 2022 picture posted on a previous page in this discussion and on her Wikipedia entry (see below).

Elle Reeve is now in her early 40s as she was born in the early 1980s.

In the Wikipedia entry, there's a link to an article from 2007 that shows looking her looking way better than 2022. Her teeth were less messed up. She has aged poorly.

She got married in her mid-20s in 2007 and got married again in 2018 in her mid to late 30s. She just had her first child in February 2024 as an early 40s woman far from her peak fertility and having aged poorly.


She has had 2 men commit marriage to her and likely multiple committed boyfriends that didn't end in marriage despite mediocre looks and likely a mediocre personality.
 

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Good (but disappointing) to know even a 7.5-8 needs to take action.

As for the Vice interview with the incel, I suppose everyone has different taste. @SW15, however (a poster known for his high standards), said on a recent post that the incel has better looks than the female journalist.

Of course the incel looks miserable. He's an incel. He has good looks underneath that misery, however. As for the skinny thing, that's once again a matter of preference. Some broads won't go for a skinny guy. I recall some of the alternative/emo/punk chicks at my high school, however, saying they don't like the overly meaty look of muscular guys.

As an analogy, some men don't like the artificial look of Playboy bunnies, even though some men are infatuated with Playboy bunnies.
You can be a 10 and yet at SOME point in life you MIGHT need game. You can be a 10, married but at some point the misses get curious about that other dude that's a 7,5...and now you are a 40y.o ten who hasn't been in the game for many years( aka rusty as fook.

And iirc most men wouldn't mind sleeping with prime let's say...Megan fox( hb9) and change that up with prime Billy Elish or Taylor Swift (both. Hb7,5). Just for shytes and giggles.

And that talking about men > women. A man's life is NEVER easy. Being around the 7 bracket doesn't mean shyte. I can go out and get multiple numbers, but I STILL gotta put I some effort. And again, I am actually WAY too spoiled by life/ women.

I just try to say that yes, I must go through the trenches and knowing this will actually give me peace of mind. You seem stressed out. Gotta find peace and embrace the fact that you are the HUNTER . You are not prey. I said before that even Wolverine (Jack hughman?) , Tom Brady and D'Angelo lost their wives eventually. Even pro ballers say they stay away from OLD because they might have great volume, even they struggle to CONTAIN the women they deal with.

Bro. Life is short. The clock is ticking. What are you waiting for? To be that old man that hates himself because he never took risks? I gave you the blueprint multiple times, but just give me the sign and I'll wrote yet another blueprint for you here.
 

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Elle Reeve is the female journalist from that 2018 video. She looked better in the 2018 video than the 2022 picture posted on a previous page in this discussion and on her Wikipedia entry (see below).

Elle Reeve is now in her early 40s as she was born in the early 1980s.

In the Wikipedia entry, there's a link to an article from 2007 that shows looking her looking way better than 2022. Her teeth were less messed up. She has aged poorly.

She got married in her mid-20s in 2007 and got married again in 2018 in her mid to late 30s. She just had her first child in February 2024 as an early 40s woman far from her peak fertility and having aged poorly.


She has had 2 men commit marriage to her and likely multiple committed boyfriends that didn't end in marriage despite mediocre looks and likely a mediocre personality.
It's true she looked better in 2018 than 2022. Still, I'd say the incel looked better than her in 2018.

The fact she had a baby in 2024 is an illustration of why I like to set my cutoff at 45+ (as early 40s are still dangerously fertile, even if past peak fertility)

And then the fact that, as you indicated, she's probably had lots of committed boyfriends (in addition to her 2 marriages) despite her mediocrity, all further proof of how easy it is for a woman to get a partner.
 

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You can be a 10 and yet at SOME point in life you MIGHT need game. You can be a 10, married but at some point the misses get curious about that other dude that's a 7,5...and now you are a 40y.o ten who hasn't been in the game for many years( aka rusty as fook.

And iirc most men wouldn't mind sleeping with prime let's say...Megan fox( hb9) and change that up with prime Billy Elish or Taylor Swift (both. Hb7,5). Just for shytes and giggles.

And that talking about men > women. A man's life is NEVER easy. Being around the 7 bracket doesn't mean shyte. I can go out and get multiple numbers, but I STILL gotta put I some effort. And again, I am actually WAY too spoiled by life/ women.

I just try to say that yes, I must go through the trenches and knowing this will actually give me peace of mind. You seem stressed out. Gotta find peace and embrace the fact that you are the HUNTER . You are not prey. I said before that even Wolverine (Jack hughman?) , Tom Brady and D'Angelo lost their wives eventually. Even pro ballers say they stay away from OLD because they might have great volume, even they struggle to CONTAIN the women they deal with.

Bro. Life is short. The clock is ticking. What are you waiting for? To be that old man that hates himself because he never took risks? I gave you the blueprint multiple times, but just give me the sign and I'll wrote yet another blueprint for you here.
You're damn right I'm stressed.

Being an autist costs me a chance with many a woman to begin with (as even if they don't officially know I'm an autist, my ASD gives me certain qualities that repel the ladies)

And if that's not bad enough, here's where it gets even worse: Many a woman in my preferred age cohort will automatically write off any man my age (even a smooth Chad)

I'm really swimming against the current.
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

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You're damn right I'm stressed.

Being an autist costs me a chance with many a woman to begin with (as even if they don't officially know I'm an autist, my ASD gives me certain qualities that repel the ladies)

And if that's not bad enough, here's where it gets even worse: Many a woman in my preferred age cohort will automatically write off any man my age (even a smooth Chad)

I'm really swimming against the current.
If you believe in evil you automatically also believe in goodness. Theres no black with white.

So just as stressed as you are today, you can be equally esthetic about your life tomorrow..as we both mentioned: the stress is the aura you surround yourself with. And "unfortunately " stress/ despair is one of the most repulsive traits we as men can have. There are men in FOOKING PRISON right now who are probably more positive than you are.. and they're fecking..that's crazy work.

Gotta work on shifting your ENERGY. How ? Time to start doing some soul searching bro..

And perhaps , as CRAZY as it will sound:you gotta lower/up ( ????) your standard and expand your bracket instead of limiting yourself to just women older than 45..preferences are okay, but not in your situation .
 

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You're damn right I'm stressed.

Being an autist costs me a chance with many a woman to begin with (as even if they don't officially know I'm an autist, my ASD gives me certain qualities that repel the ladies)

And if that's not bad enough, here's where it gets even worse: Many a woman in my preferred age cohort will automatically write off any man my age (even a smooth Chad)

I'm really swimming against the current.
About the autistic part: I am a firm believer that those autistic "qualities " can also be used to actually gain knowledge and experience( on a EAGER level ;))

You can make a so-called " safe fall" ,with your arms wide open, eyes closed , and without fear drop into the lifestyle of self improvement.

I know this is blasphemy here, but you should forget about women at least untill summer and work on yourself while having a positive attitude and point of view. Those h0es will come believe me..

Ask questions make threads ofcourse. But take out the sting and start with re imaging the bettter version yourself. On an autistic level.
 

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If you believe in evil you automatically also believe in goodness. Theres no black with white.

So just as stressed as you are today, you can be equally esthetic about your life tomorrow..as we both mentioned: the stress is the aura you surround yourself with. And "unfortunately " stress/ despair is one of the most repulsive traits we as men can have. There are men in FOOKING PRISON right now who are probably more positive than you are.. and they're fecking..that's crazy work.

Gotta work on shifting your ENERGY. How ? Time to start doing some soul searching bro..

And perhaps , as CRAZY as it will sound:you gotta lower/up ( ????) your standard and expand your bracket instead of limiting yourself to just women older than 45..preferences are okay, but not in your situation .
I already know I have a track record of chickening out when a woman who hasn't reached peri-menopause offers me sex.

I turned down sex with a 21 year old after a 1st date once. We were both naked in bed (and her cooch was extremely wet)...yet I still turned down the sex. That's how crippling my pregnancy phobia is.

There was also a time when I ended up naked in bed with a 38 year old after a first date. I put a condom on. Then I rubbed my banana against her thigh until I climaxed. Yet another illustration of how crippling my pregnancy phobia is.

Knowing what'll probably happen if a below-45 woman offers me sex, why bother?
 

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The fact she had a baby in 2024 is an illustration of why I like to set my cutoff at 45+ (as early 40s are still dangerously fertile, even if past peak fertility)
She had a baby early in 2024 as a woman in her early 40s because she wasn't on birth control and her husband wasn't using a condom.

I have had sex with women younger than her not on birth control. I've used a condom. No pregnancies.

And then the fact that, as you indicated, she's probably had lots of committed boyfriends (in addition to her 2 marriages) despite her mediocrity, all further proof of how easy it is for a woman to get a partner.
It is easy for a woman to get a partner and more difficult for a man to get a partner. That's true no matter how much any man complains about that injustice.

Men need to be aware of that and plan around that idea. Attraction and seduction are about looks, money, status, and personality.

Men need to focus firstly on their looks and building an amazing physique. Get the lower body fat (13-15% target) and some muscle. Ripped abs and some muscle help a lot in getting women to drop their panties.

Personality helps too. Although it is less important than looks or money, it can help in the absence of a good quantity of money.
 

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She had a baby early in 2024 as a woman in her early 40s because she wasn't on birth control and her husband wasn't using a condom.

I have had sex with women younger than her not on birth control. I've used a condom. No pregnancies.



It is easy for a woman to get a partner and more difficult for a man to get a partner. That's true no matter how much any man complains about that injustice.

Men need to be aware of that and plan around that idea. Attraction and seduction are about looks, money, status, and personality.

Men need to focus firstly on their looks and building an amazing physique. Get the lower body fat (13-15% target) and some muscle. Ripped abs and some muscle help a lot in getting women to drop their panties.

Personality helps too. Although it is less important than looks or money, it can help in the absence of a good quantity of money.
We don't know for a fact whether the female journalist was on birth control (or whether the husband used a condom). Nor should we; that's their own private business.

I'm aware many men have used condoms without impregnating anyone. That doesn't change the fact a decent amount of men, even with a condom, have impregnated a woman.

You've mentioned on the forum before that you like to check the condom throughout the romp to make sure it's on/intact. If you're OK with doing that, have at it. When I nailed a woman around my age this past summer, on the other hand, checking the condom throughout the romp ended up taking the fun out of the romp.

I've said before on the forum that my best lay was the 45 year old married woman I had the affair with back when I was at the boytoy age. The fact I could fvck away without having to fear pregnancy (and without having to worry about the condom staying intact) undoubtedly played a role in why she (despite being fat and older) was my best lay. Hell, eventually we opted out of using condoms anyway.

Here's the thing: I don't try to convince posters they should go for older broads. I accept the fact a lot of posters prefer younger (if anything, I'm glad I don't have to compete with you for older broads). All I'm asking is for posters to accept my age preference too.

As for looks/money/status/personality, I'd say men need at least 2 of those 4 qualities to do well with the ladies.

I only have looks.

I don't have money (as even though my family is wealthy, I personally have a low income)

I certainly don't have a sexy personality (being an autist)

I don't have social status either (being a low income autist)

On the other hand, I've known slayers with neither looks or money. A smooth alpha personality, combined with the social status of being a smooth alpha, is how these men with neither looks nor money manage to slay.
 

If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.

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On the topic of my age preferences when picking a woman, I'd be intrigued to hear if @BeExcellent thinks the odds of a woman going for a man 12 years younger are as dismal as some posters make it sound (my age preference begins at 12 years older than me)

As a woman whose husband is 8 years younger than her, she could provide some valuable insight. 12 years really isn't a whole lot different than 8 years. It's not like we're talking about a 20+ year (or even 15 year) age gap.
 

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I already know I have a track record of chickening out when a woman who hasn't reached peri-menopause offers me sex.

I turned down sex with a 21 year old after a 1st date once. We were both naked in bed (and her cooch was extremely wet)...yet I still turned down the sex. That's how crippling my pregnancy phobia is.

There was also a time when I ended up naked in bed with a 38 year old after a first date. I put a condom on. Then I rubbed my banana against her thigh until I climaxed. Yet another illustration of how crippling my pregnancy phobia is.

Knowing what'll probably happen if a below-45 woman offers me sex, why bother?
That's sounds fecked up man..

You know what the thing is with dudes like you: you have a pattern of reasoning that can't be changed. But meanwhile you also dissatisfied with your current patterns .

Gotta make a choice. If you want women you gotta give them a reason to want you. Simple
 

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That's sounds fecked up man..

You know what the thing is with dudes like you: you have a pattern of reasoning that can't be changed. But meanwhile you also dissatisfied with your current patterns .

Gotta make a choice. If you want women you gotta give them a reason to want you. Simple
What can't be changed is my phobia of pregnancy.
 

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What can't be changed is my phobia of pregnancy.
Plenty of neurotypicals have little to no desire to get women pregnant. Neurotypicals tend to handle that situation far differently than you do.

As for looks/money/status/personality, I'd say men need at least 2 of those 4 qualities to do well with the ladies.

I only have looks.

I don't have money (as even though my family is wealthy, I personally have a low income)

I certainly don't have a sexy personality (being an autist)

I don't have social status either (being a low income autist)
Whatever looks you may have are definitely not enough to offset deficiencies in other areas.

Your looks are not elite level. On swipe apps, women are seeking at least the 85-90th percentile on looks. It's very difficult to get to that 85-90th percentile. The 85-90th percentile on looks will also help in getting responses to random DMs on social media platforms, primarily Instagram.

You don't have money right now. After your parents die, you might be able to claim to have money in an inheritance. Your inheritance will likely not help you get more women to spread their legs for you in conventional mating scenarios and it's also many years away.

Here's the thing: I don't try to convince posters they should go for older broads. I accept the fact a lot of posters prefer younger (if anything, I'm glad I don't have to compete with you for older broads). All I'm asking is for posters to accept my age preference too.
Multiple posters here acknowledge that your age preference is going to make things far more difficult for you in the conventional mating environment. You are seeking an unusual to outlier level outcome. If you were swimming in an ocean, you would be swimming against the tide. It doesn't help your cause.
 

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Plenty of neurotypicals have little to no desire to get women pregnant. Neurotypicals tend to handle that situation far differently than you do.



Whatever looks you may have are definitely not enough to offset deficiencies in other areas.

Your looks are not elite level. On swipe apps, women are seeking at least the 85-90th percentile on looks. It's very difficult to get to that 85-90th percentile. The 85-90th percentile on looks will also help in getting responses to random DMs on social media platforms, primarily Instagram.

You don't have money right now. After your parents die, you might be able to claim to have money in an inheritance. Your inheritance will likely not help you get more women to spread their legs for you in conventional mating scenarios and it's also many years away.



Multiple posters here acknowledge that your age preference is going to make things far more difficult for you in the conventional mating environment. You are seeking an unusual to outlier level outcome. If you were swimming in an ocean, you would be swimming against the tide. It doesn't help your cause.
The difference between myself and neurotypicals is the fact virtually no neurotypicals would commit suicide over a pregnancy. Put frankly, the stakes (when it comes to pregnancy) are a lot higher with me. That's why I'm willing to focus on older broads who are past their peak attractiveness, if that's what it takes to avoid ending up in a position where I have to kill myself.

If (as you said) any inheritance I get won't help me get laid, I suppose it doesn't matter how many years away (or how big) the inheritance is.

As for the age preference thing, I'm totally fine with anyone pointing out the fact many broads in my preferred age cohort won't go for a 33 year old. What I'm not fine with is when anyone (whether online or offline) tries to convince me I should change my age preference.

It would be one thing to tell a struggling guy who only goes for 8+ (out of 10) "Maybe you'd have better luck if you dipped down to 6s and 7s." That'd be helpful/constructive advice.

Telling a guy who's afraid to stick it in a fertile-age broad that he should go for fertile broads, on the other hand, is like telling a guy with a fear of heights that he should apply to a roofer job.

While I totally agree my age preference is a hurdle, worth mentioning is the fact 6 of my 9 non-escort partners were born before 1980 (put another way: 67% of my non-escort partners were born before 1980)
 
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