It Is Easy For Most Women To Move On

[BaronOfHair]

It's why I practice stoicism, because it brings me peace when I expect the unexpected; nothing truly surprises me anymore

Any day I could get fired
Any day someone I love could die
Any day there could be a natural disaster
Any day I could find out my spouse is cheating or leaving

It forces me to be completely unattached, but at the same time everything is more beautiful because of it. Mundane moments turn into future memories.

This isn't unique to Stoicism either. Many(if not most of)the most spectacular philosophical traditions encourage us to not get overly attached to anything. Why? Because everything is impermanent and in constant flux, Aeon or otherwise

 

[BaronOfHair]

Talk about it with other men? Fuhgeddaboutit. Sharing feelings with other men? They will call you a homo and ostracise you

Yeah, it's far more beneficial to remind the ailing man that his emotions are just the byproduct of his(distorted and hyperbolic)thoughts and beliefs regarding the event in question... We all have near-absolute power over how much and sort of pain we experience

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Yeah, it's far more beneficial to remind the ailing man that his emotions are just the byproduct of his(distorted and hyperbolic)thoughts and beliefs regarding the event in question... We all have near-absolute power over how much and sort of pain we experience

There's a huge cultural aspect that cannot be avoided, which started in my time when women complained about guys not showing their feelings enough. I had an excuse*, but many guys turned into crybabies, who in turn of course couldn't get laid anymore.

And why? Because women didn't wanted guys who showed their feelings. They wanted guys to care about women's feelings. And in their distorted logic, they thought "if men would cry, they'd understand how to deal with us when we cry". Which, of course, is nonsense.

A man's primal reaction to a woman crying should be to put his arms around her to comfort her, not to stand there like he caused her problems and cry blobby tears with her.

Women on the other hand realised they were wrong about asking men to cry like women, but it did sort out the weak 'pleasers' from the more stoic mature men who would disregard their requests and just made women feel safe to express their emotions without becoming a blubbering mess.


"Please, Mister, can you help me find my lost buttplug?"

*I told girlfriends who complained about my stoicism/non-reactiveness that I was raised in a dysfunctional family (true, but it also made sure my girlfriends did not want to 'meet my parents') and had developed Delayed Emotional Display from hiding my fear from my parents and siblings. Like I told them 'I do my crying and screaming on the inside'.

 

[New_Journey]

A man's primal reaction to a woman crying should be to put his arms around her to comfort her

That can be easily weaponized against men, its called Weaponizing men's protecting instinct, that's one think that fvcks men up, they see her crying and they cater to her wimp. Its primal, women don't need protection any more.

 

[BaronOfHair]

There's a huge cultural aspect that cannot be avoided, which started in my time when women complained about guys not showing their feelings enough. I had an excuse*, but many guys turned into crybabies, who in turn of course couldn't get laid anymore.

The legacy of 60s counterculture

hasn't quite left us

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

That can be easily weaponized against men, its called Weaponizing men's protecting instinct, that's one think that fvcks men up, they see her crying and they cater to her wimp. Its primal, women don't need protection any more.

Can you step out of your self-victimising mindset?

Knowledge is power. Self-knowledge is strength. Since I know the primal male urge to protect the 'damsel in distress', I'm quite able to see when a person tries to manipulate me. I study people all the time, which is why I'm both resistant to manipulation and able to manipulate the manipulators.
If a woman manipulates a man, it's because he's too dense to understand the manipulation game and how to defend himself. This is the way of the world - it's much better to hold the reins than to wear the bridle.

 

[New_Journey]

self-victimising mindset

You confused me with somebody else.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Think its important to mention women in most cases usually have much stronger social circles than men do and these social circles could likely win a Nobel prize for their victimisation therapies

Nothing will be the chicks fault , there will be lot of " you go girls " and "Slay hunny" blah blah the ex BF was a deadbeat she can do so much better yada yada

Men will kind of get a slap on the back maybe a half hearted offer of a beer in a dive bar and then left to get over it alone

I mean when my 4 year LTR fell apart, I don't think anyone so much as batted an eye lid , my Ex was having 24/7 counselling by her toxic friends and parents

I mean "mens mental health" is a heavily virtue signalled topic on social media , but in reality theres not that much support for any type of emotional trauma out there

It is literally just " your a man suck it up and get on with it "

its also a lot harder for older men to find new prospects which can lead to long spells of loneliness and sexlessness

Most Women can fire up a couple of swipe apps and have dates lined up within 24 hours if they wished too

So yea basically what I'm getting at is , theres a much more clear pathway for a woman to get over a breakup

 

[Giovanni SouthSide]

Think its important to mention women in most cases usually have much stronger social circles than men do and these social circles could likely win a Nobel prize for their victimisation therapies

Nothing will be the chicks fault , there will be lot of " you go girls " and "Slay hunny" blah blah the ex BF was a deadbeat she can do so much better yada yada

Men will kind of get a slap on the back maybe a half hearted offer of a beer in a dive bar and then left to get over it alone

I mean when my 4 year LTR fell apart, I don't think anyone so much as batted an eye lid , my Ex was having 24/7 counselling by her toxic friends and parents

I mean "mens mental health" is a heavily virtue signalled topic on social media , but in reality theres not that much support for any type of emotional trauma out there

It is literally just " your a man suck it up and get on with it "

its also a lot harder for older men to find new prospects which can lead to long spells of loneliness and sexlessness

Most Women can fire up a couple of swipe apps and have dates lined up within 24 hours if they wished too

So yea basically what I'm getting at is , theres a much more clear pathway for a woman to get over a breakup

some distillation of truth. There is a narrative among women that if a man really wanted to date, he could. He could even get a dime piece without issue. This isn't true, most single men would like to date and have a supply of reliable ass especially during winter season when the loneliness and dry spells cut deeper. The harsh truth today in most metro cities in the USA is that the average man isn't good enough for the average woman. I see this spilling over to Mexico too. What’s the first thing a chick asks you “what do you do”. She don’t care bout your name unless she is genuinely an uncut diamond in the dirt. Even current dating can’t escape h0eflation.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

You confused me with somebody else.

You mean you were quoting someone else who was talking about how women 'weaponise' our primal urges against us?

That can be easily weaponized against men, its called Weaponizing men's protecting instinct, that's one think that fvcks men up, they see her crying and they cater to her wimp. Its primal, women don't need protection any more.

Are you not self-victimising here? This 'they're out to get you' attitude is defeatist. And it fosters a negative attitude towards women being the cause of 'f*cking men up'. Not all women are trying to bring men down. The few that are you can easily distinguish if you keep your eyes open and not let your penis make decisions for you.

 

[New_Journey]

You mean you were quoting someone else who was talking about how women 'weaponise' our primal urges against us?

Are you not self-victimising here? This 'they're out to get you' attitude is defeatist. And it fosters a negative attitude towards women being the cause of 'f*cking men up'. Not all women are trying to bring men down. The few that are you can easily distinguish if you keep your eyes open and not let your penis make decisions for you.

Read what I wrote, not what you want to read, women's tears can be used as a tool to get men to do what they want, every Alpha who knows about dating knows that, except you, apparently, Mr. Psychologist.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Read what I wrote, not what you want to read, women's tears can be used as a tool to get men to do what they want, every Alpha who knows about dating knows that, except you, apparently, Mr. Psychologist.

I know that you're afraid of women and the power they seem to sway over you, 'Mr. Alpha'. 'Weaponise men's primal instincts against them'.

Don't try to make this a 'battle between the sexes' when you're just incapable of the emotional self-control and maturity to deal with feeble manipulations on the most basic level imaginary.

The basic knowledge that you can be manipulated by others to do their bidding should've made you skeptical, not fearful.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I know that you're afraid of women and the power they seem to sway over you, 'Mr. Alpha'. 'Weaponise men's primal instincts against them'.

Don't try to make this a 'battle between the sexes' when you're just incapable of the emotional self-control and maturity to deal with feeble manipulations on the most basic level imaginary.

The basic knowledge that you can be manipulated by others to do their bidding should've made you skeptical, not fearful.

Many women manipulate others via tears, and many men do likewise with anger/threat displays. Such has been life, likely from the beginning

 

[Vanderdonck]

Many women manipulate others via tears, and many men do likewise with anger/threat displays. Such has been life, likely from the beginning

True. Difference should be this.

Woman: "He manipulated meeeee." [friends and orbiters hug her.]

Man: "Sh*t, I let myself get played. That was dumb."

 

[nismo-4]

No need to overcomplicate it and make it a philosophical treatise.

Most men are clingy betas who hang on for dear life to any kind of pu$$y they can latch onto.

Women bounce back quicker simply because they always have more options, which means they can get over it quicker.

Women always have in their mind "Ah if this doesn't work, I could just DM one of my IG followers." Most men can't really do that unless they're blue-checked lit millionaires.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

"Ah if this doesn't work, I could just DM one of my IG followers."

Last thing any attractive woman wants is to have a roll in the hay with one of her IG followers.

However, if a guy feels threatened by a woman's orbiters, there's a huge chance that his insecurity turns her off so much that she will find someone who is more secure.

 

[SW15]

They never move on from that ONE guy. That meme is correct but incomplete. Women can only really love 1 man in a lifetime. If he breaks up with her she will always compare every subsequent man to him. It will be very difficult to snap her out of it. The only way to do this is to be so much better than the ghost of the other guy.

Yes they can move on quickly from 99% of men. This is because they are still not over the man they really wanted. This is why it is so important to be with the girl you imprinted on. Be with the girl that gave you her highest score. You break it you keep it type of thing.

It's always relevant to remind people of @Desdinova and his High Score Theory post. I agree with that idea too.

High Score Theory

Ever notice how women can just write off a guy and treat him like he was only a tiny blip on her radar? Well that's because he was. The more sexually experienced a woman becomes, the more accustomed she is to just throwing guys away. Every new guy she dates seems to earn mediocre to low interest...

www.sosuave.net

That's because women break up emotionally with a man months before they do so physically.

By the time they break up with him physically they are mentally done with him whereas the guy is blindsided many times.

Yes. This is relevant in medium to longer term relationships (1 year+).

It's why I practice stoicism, because it brings me peace when I expect the unexpected; nothing truly surprises me anymore

Any day I could get fired
Any day someone I love could die
Any day there could be a natural disaster
Any day I could find out my spouse is cheating or leaving

It forces me to be completely unattached, but at the same time everything is more beautiful because of it. Mundane moments turn into future memories.

Stoicism is a good idea.

Employers today have zero loyalty and are notorious for doing mass layoffs without zero notice.

The typical woman today is arguably as bad as a typical white collar corporate employer on her lack of loyalty too.

 

[New_Journey]

I know that you're afraid of women and the power they seem to sway over you, 'Mr. Alpha'. 'Weaponise men's primal instincts against them'.

Don't try to make this a 'battle between the sexes' when you're just incapable of the emotional self-control and maturity to deal with feeble manipulations on the most basic level imaginary.

The basic knowledge that you can be manipulated by others to do their bidding should've made you skeptical, not fearful.

Why would I be fearful of a being who can't even make up their minds about anything?

You're projecting what you have in mind, that's why you're writing things that I haven't.

 

[New_Journey]

Many women manipulate others via tears, and many men do likewise with anger/threat displays. Such has been life, likely from the beginning

Women don't have force, they have manipulation. Mr. Psychologist @AmsterdamAssassin should know that. I imagine a woman crying and him embracing her so she can cry on his shoulder like a good emotional tampon hahaha. Your secret is safe with us brother.

There is video to shed some light.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Women don't have force, they have manipulation

Crotch Rot vs Gonorrhea, hombre... Same phenomena. From '17-today, we here in The Post-Industrial West have been pissing away irreplaceable minutes of our lives, desperately trying to prove each other wrong at all costs, rather than honestly sharing thoughts and ideas