Solomon
Master Don Juan
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I totally agree with being intentioal that's why I take months breaks from plates/dating. Last month for me was unsually as I was coming back of a 2 month break and caught fire although some girls were grenades I should not have taken out but it was fun to get my feet back in the game/
I agree with this like OP. I've been burned more times than I care to admit telling girls let's grab drinks then they want some food when we at the restaurant or bar. I've learned long ago that the amount of money I spend doesn't correlate with the amount of coochie I get I would even say the cheaper I am initially the longer the girls tend to stick around if they like me. Girls have gotton hip to the "Drink" date. Where you know you getting drinks but then all of a sudden she is "hungry" A girl recently refused to go on a date with me after I told her we were just grabbing drinks and no dinner. Needless to say that wasn't a loss as she exposed herself and I saved money but more importantly timeOne of the better ways to save money is to be intentional on who you date. Screen well. I find that I am able to screen more effectively with real life meeting methods than screening women from tech-based methods.
Drinks in a moderately priced bar or bars (multivenue-ing is your friend) is the best tactic and plan for a first date.
Avoid coffee dates. It's difficult to create sexual tension in them.
Avoid dinner dates in restaurants. They are expensive and it is also difficult to create sexual tension on one.
Too many men in the 2020s are still lazy and still use dinner dates in restaurants as first dates. These are the type of men that never make it on to SoSuave or similar type forums.
I totally agree with being intentioal that's why I take months breaks from plates/dating. Last month for me was unsually as I was coming back of a 2 month break and caught fire although some girls were grenades I should not have taken out but it was fun to get my feet back in the game/
Nothing wrong with taking walks or hikes I use to do that too for first dates, but I learned very quickly that for a lot of women it seems low effort, also harder to sexually escalate and didn't get a lot of 2nd dates. The older I get the better I get at vetting women to take on dates or not in my 20s I would take any girl out I truly was just happy to get a date. Now that I'm older I'm picky. Heck one of the hottest chicks I talked to recently I stopped talking too cause she wanted me to drive 20 minutes out of the place I originally planned to meet, I don't have time for thatHere in Amsterdam just walking around looking at the freak show is already entertaining. And I know this city better than most guides will ever know, so if I'm 'entertaining' a young tourist, I take her to places where tourists rarely come and show her the dark underbelly of infamous Mokum.
This works like Gold, usually women are eager to pay for the 2nd date if she really likes you usually the girls that scoff at this are women that don't care to see you again but the girl I'm seeing now she pays for stuff, I pay for stuff we don't bicker about itThink of it as investing in a plate. $100 on a first date isn’t that much in my city, maybe 6 drinks or a decent dinner for 2. I go out on first dates 3-4 times a month so it’s not too bad.
Being in a nice venue and staff that knows you help a LOT to get a second date. Most of the time, they offer to split the bill, but I usually tell them to take care of the next one.