MGTOW is the only way to go

[corrector]

I think there are a fair number of never-married men who have had at least 90% of their sexual encounters with bought women.

Are you talking about "indirectly" (ie the traditional route, courting, dating, and lying in order to get sex, or actually getting into a mutually agreed/beneficial arrangement, relationship or marriage) or "directly" (ie the escort thing) when you mention 90%?

 

[Divorced w 3]

You buy the company or many things to do with a woman (ie as per your previous post which you are obviously deflecting from here as I came at you with another angle that nullifies it), but you can't buy her heart.

You think I buy women drinks you have me all wrong. I’m not going to let the embedded ‘sympathy for the unlucky’ skate here either. I had a mortgage when my son was born and had changed jobs and was making $100 a week. Even if that wasn’t the case and I went to a good school ( I didn’t) I would be commending that person for being able to make something of his life. Chicks want catnip, you’re not buying their love you’re making yourself shine for your own self and then it becomes magnetic. My mentor, my non genetic father, once said ‘don’t feel bad for anyone.’ Provided that someone is not genetically disabled i totally agree. This is the land of the free and the home of the brave. Get to work.

 

[corrector]

You think I buy women drinks you have me all wrong. I’m not going to let the embedded ‘sympathy for the unlucky’ skate here either. I had a mortgage when my son was born and had changed jobs and was making $100 a week. Even if that wasn’t the case and I went to a good school ( I didn’t) I would be commending that person for being able to make something of his life. Chicks want catnip, you’re not buying their love you’re making yourself shine for your own self and then it becomes magnetic. My mentor, my non genetic father, once said ‘don’t feel bad for anyone.’ Provided that someone is not genetically disabled i totally agree. This is the land of the free and the home of the brave. Get to work.

You said incentivise in your other post. What did you mean by that? I am already employed so you are not making any sense with me.

 

[SW15]

in an ordinary social schema, he should have been at least Chadlite - even at an all-boys Catholic school (which does it make it more difficult, of course).

Attending an all-boys Catholic school makes it more difficult to get laid. It has the potential to stunt one's social growth.

 

[Divorced w 3]

You said incentivise in your other post. What did you mean by that? I am already employed so you are not making any sense with me.

Incentive moves the world forward. If she wants to be with you it’s due to incentives. Maybe she thinks you’re good in bed, maybe she thinks you’re hysterical and the alpha male, whatever it may be, but chicks get lots of attention.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Attending an all-boys Catholic school makes it more difficult to get laid. It has the potential to stunt one's social growth.

You have to hit that dance on Friday night and have your new friends bring some of the women they went to school with prior.

 

[MatureDJ]

Are you talking about "indirectly" (ie the traditional route, courting, dating, and lying in order to get sex, or actually getting into a mutually agreed/beneficial arrangement, relationship or marriage) or "directly" (ie the escort thing) when you mention 90%?

I'm not including the standard marriage (including "common-law" marriage) schema, or even the situation like in a lot of Eastern Europe that when you're laying pipe, you need to buy things for her to "pay the piper". The Sugar Daddy thing, so long as it is not an upfront thing (i.e., that previous example would not be upfront), would not be considered EscortMaxxing (actually using the SugarDaddy website would de facto make it EscortMaxxing). And heck, most men are not in the financial situation where they could SugarDaddyMax even if they wanted to, and those men that could swing it could at least have the opportunity to MarriageMax; of course, I could see short man of means not being able to MarriageMax, so him SugarDaddyMaxxing would be EscortMaxxing by other means.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi 051AV,
May I be familiar and call you 051.....A thoughtful post and hits the nail right on the head....Whether you have the bored,at times grudging,acquiescence of a Wife or the feigned pleasure of an escort,it can't compare to what we have...And make no mistake those in the straight jacket of Marriage envy us!...They can have their boring,stultifying lives,we have chosen the open road...I am in my eightieth year,twice coerced into marriage and inevitably twice gang raped and humiliated by the Family Court Gestapo,just before Christmas I scored a new Plate,it's thrilling,exciting,never palls,the older Woman starved of affection maybe for some years,will tremble like a leaf in your arms...just before Covid I had a couple of Weeks in the Philippines...Lined up four Women on the net,three were happy to share their lives,their beds with me,it was great....So many fine Women,educated,religious hard working,will do anything to get out of that rotten Shvit hole...Were it not for the Oppressive heat,lousy food,corruption and depressing squalor I would still be there....For those with a taste for such things you could easily line up lovely Girls of eighteen...As for the Lonely Old Man mantra,it's a Furphy as you get Older it becomes a veritable female Smorgasbord!

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Who are you talking about? <snip>

Search results for query: escort

www.sosuave.net

 

[Divorced w 3]

Hi 051AV,
May I be familiar and call you 051.....A thoughtful post and hits the nail right on the head....Whether you have the bored,at times grudging,acquiescence of a Wife or the feigned pleasure of an escort,it can't compare to what we have...And make no mistake those in the straight jacket of Marriage envy us!...They can have their boring,stultifying lives,we have chosen the open road...I am in my eightieth year,twice coerced into marriage and inevitably twice gang raped and humiliated by the Family Court Gestapo,just before Christmas I scored a new Plate,it's thrilling,exciting,never palls,the older Woman starved of affection maybe for some years,will tremble like a leaf in your arms...just before Covid I had a couple of Weeks in the Philippines...Lined up four Women on the net,three were happy to share their lives,their beds with me,it was great....So many fine Women,educated,religious hard working,will do anything to get out of that rotten Shvit hole...Were it not for the Oppressive heat,lousy food,corruption and depressing squalor I would still be there....For those with a taste for such things you could easily line up lovely Girls of eighteen...As for the Lonely Old Man mantra,it's a Furphy as you get Older it becomes a veritable female Smorgasbord!

Well said. I was watching dads that I used to hang with that all make 400k+ annually get chewed out by their overweight, Prozac guzzling wives for such reasons as being on the phone during trick or treating while the moms were in the back. I was waking with my girlfriend who couldn’t believe what she was witnessing. Then the dads, who totally dug my chick and the vibe we were putting out, as the only couple present who actually had a visible sexual connection, were like oh hey aren’t you a schoolteacher to her, except I never told them that haha. It was hysterical.

 

[corrector]

Search results for query: escort

www.sosuave.net

That is not 90% of my posts though otherwise you would not have to put in a search inquiry for the specific term "escort". I've also noticed, like I mentioned earlier, that most of any thread where that was mentioned were initiated by other users when the topic was brought up and was relevant to the discussion. If there is a thread about escorts, MGTOWS, incels, then that topic will come up, most likely from another poster and I'm chiming in.

If you were honest, then do another search term with just "corrector" or what threads are "corrector" making. At least that won't look like a witfchhunt.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

It means that WW videos are intended to the other 90% of guys who are struggling with women. Of course he acknowledges all throughout his videos that the chads/chadlites have it easy, but at the expense of everyone else.

If you look at it, you are either struggling, or you are part of the 10% who is taking women out of the dating market and making it even more difficult for other guys who are struggling. Do you really disagree with WW?

By definition. If a guy gets a girl. She is (hopefully) out of the dating market. So. As I have a GF. And she (& I) are out of the market. Shouldn’t it be a net 0? As we both are out.

 

[corrector]

By definition. If a guy gets a girl. She is (hopefully) out of the dating market. So. As I have a GF. And she (& I) are out of the market. Shouldn’t it be a net 0? As we both are out.

You are one of the good guys. They are not talking about people like you, or any couples. Mainly the bad single chads who are poisoning the well by their behaviour and contributing to the trajedy of the commons.

For example, we can say that you have some values and because of those values, you voluntarily put yourself out of the dating market. However, you are still in the dating market if you choose to be although it won't be ethnical to do that. Assuming you are not cheating on your gf, we can both agree, that you have allot of opportunity to cheat on your gf if you wanted to. By probably could have side relationships or even marrry a woman behind your gfs back.

Now, lets say you didn't have good values and you took advantage of your opportunities. In this case, there are other women that you could be dealing with, apart from your gf, that you would be taking them out of the dating market and adding baggage to their lives when they are no longer fun, are getting boring and you want to replace them with someone else.

Just because you don't operate that way, doesn't mean that other people don't as well. One can say that you are missing out by voluntarily limiting yourself with one girl and missing out on allot of fun.

Obviously, if you voluntarily take yourself out of the market for ethnical/moral reasons, then it's a net zero (ie assuming she's not cheating on you, lol!)

 

[Manure Spherian]

By definition. If a guy gets a girl. She is (hopefully) out of the dating market. So. As I have a GF. And she (& I) are out of the market. Shouldn’t it be a net 0? As we both are out.

I will not speak for him but I think he means some men at the top of the heap hog multiple women at the same time. Even if some of such men do not hog, some produce alpha widows because the do not marry.

I think WW and other black-pillers, though they dispense some truths, are highly exaggerative.

 

[corrector]

As a side-discussion here (won't be making a thread about it), WW did mention an interesting point in his video and that is a comination of Dopamine and Relaxation options APART from dating are reducing the incentive for guys (ie especially like myself) to want to go out to date women.

If I were to a point of time in the early 10s decade and contrast that with 2023, I've noticed the following Dopamine options I have now, that I didn't have say in 2015 (ie as a random year)

1) I own a Tablet since 2017. The Tablet is used extensively in bed, when I'm on the job at lunch/breaks, when I'm on the train to and from work, when I'm riding as a passanger in the car or when I'm in the Gym. Ever since using a Tablet, (ie which represents having literally a "TV in your pocket", has lead to an increase dopamine release. A Tablet was purchased in 2017.

2) I own a VR-headset since 2021. This is used more occasionally. However, using it can mimic going to the cinema, or viewing 360 degree videos which gives a great feeling of escape and being in another world.

3) I've also owned a TV since 2017, and a projector since 2019.

4 ) OnlyFans / porn are also dopamine sources, ease of setting up a encounter with an escort, etc....

Therefore, what I'm driving at, is there is allot more and better dopamine options compared to 2015 or earlier. While one can argue that they always had the cinema, and if someone wanted to watch a large screen presentation they can always visit a movie theater. However, it's not quite the same thing. In a cinema, most of what you will see are couples and women and you'll feel funny if you are going by yourself, plus its inconvenient to go there. If you can do everything at home and get the same dopamine hit, and not have to even worry about social dynamics that would make you feel funny going by yourself, then that's a great dopamine yield.

Compare this with anything to do with women? First, already worried about rejection from the gate or nobody will take you on and already know I'm low in the look-scale. Women are not fun to deal with compared to these other options if you were comparing dopamine to dopamine (ie unless you are fapping to images/videos of them).

Now, if we were to compare this to the 1960s.

There are no real other dopamine options apart from dealing with women. Otherwise, what would you do? Sit at home and read a book / comic book and twittle your thumbs. There is something crazy about the tech of the modern world because it's like a dopamine flood compared to low dopamine yields with other activities in the 60s.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

That is not 90% of my posts though otherwise you would not have to put in a search inquiry for the specific term "escort". I've also noticed, like I mentioned earlier, that most of any thread where that was mentioned were initiated by other users when the topic was brought up and was relevant to the discussion. If there is a thread about escorts, MGTOWS, incels, then that topic will come up, most likely from another poster and I'm chiming in.

If you were honest, then do another search term with just "corrector" or what threads are "corrector" making. At least that won't look like a witfchhunt.

This is no witch hunt my question is posted as a reader of the forum not a moderator.

I asked a real question broheem. Why do you need to reference paying for vaginas as often as you do? You seemingly weave it into the narratives one way or another, as you just did above…AGAIN

 

[corrector]

This is no witch hunt my question is posted as a reader of the forum not a moderator.

Okay, noted. However, I have a legal mindset, and sometimes I just sound like a lawyer.

I asked a real question broheem. Why do you need to reference paying for vaginas as often as you do? You seemingly weave it into the narratives one way or another, as you just did above…AGAIN

You mean the incel and MGTOW narratives? The escort I feel is a necessary part of these narratives because it's either an option of last resort, or it's a legally risk-free option (ie talking about more of the mid-tier/high-level stuff not street stuff) for MGTOWs.

If you are not incel or MGTOW, then I'd be curious as to what other narratives the discussion of escorts would be relevant? It just means I tend to gravitate towards threads give me a dopamine fix...which it seems to be those types of threads. Misery likes company. However, in other "normal" threads, it's not discussed there as I don't see it as part of other narratives.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Okay, noted. However, I have a legal mindset, and sometimes I just sound like a lawyer.

You mean the incel and MGTOW narratives? The escort I feel is a necessary part of these narratives because it's either an option of last resort, or it's a legally risk-free option (ie talking about more of the mid-tier/high-level stuff not street stuff) for MGTOWs.

If you are not incel or MGTOW, then I'd be curious as to what other narratives the discussion of escorts would be relevant? It just means I tend to gravitate towards threads give me a dopamine fix...which it seems to be those types of threads. Misery likes company. However, in other "normal" threads, it's not discussed there as I don't see it as part of other narratives.

Fair enough.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Epicentre,
I just love Chinese Women...These alluring Ladies seem partners for the Gods,Those legs wouldn't it be nice to have them wrapped around you?....A Man may dream LOL...I read up about them,seems they live in open marriages?....How does that go down with the CCP?...China is such a straight laced,Puritanical nation,I wander how they tolerate it?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

You mean the incel and MGTOW narratives? The escort I feel is a necessary part of these narratives because it's either an option of last resort, or it's a legally risk-free option (ie talking about more of the mid-tier/high-level stuff not street stuff) for MGTOWs.

No, it isn't.
Incels wouldn't be incels if they'd have sex and they're not going to pay for sex when 'Chad' gets sex 'for free'.

BTW, this is not an invitation to continue a discussion on escortmaxxing.