MGTOW is the only way to go

[Hamurabimbi]

I was lucky. Divorced but not divorce-r@ped. Turns out we wound up friends again. Actually FWB as she is the best fvcker I’ve ever had. With that being said. I’m still cautious about remarriage.
I have a friend who did get divorce-r@ped. He is MGTOW. He’ll occasionally dumpster dive & bang chicks well below his SMV.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

....wanna know why MGTOW is an eventuality....????....

Here's why.....

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I went to the Rosie the Riveter NHS in the Bay Area & got my GF the shirt (#1 above ). She hasn’t worn it yet. Sadly. She has no clue who Rosie was. She is completely uninterested in feminism.

 

[corrector]

I was divorced as well (ie she asked me to divorce her on mutliple occasions, and simply self-represented myself and went through the legal proceedings). I was not divorce-r@ped, but then again, I didn't have anything in the first place other than a massive debt. There was one brief contact with my ex-wife back in March, 2022 via email where we wished each other a happy birthday that year, but this year, I've just ignored her if I accidentally have seen her shopping at the same store. I guess I'm not really interested in getting any "updates" from her or re-opening old wounds. Also, seeing her reminds me that a woman did love me enough in the past to marry me, which is not always a welcome thought as it pokes into my current eternal-feeling dry-spell reallity. Its easier to think of that whole area of my life as condemned or cursed rather than to retain memories that such an event happened.

 

[SW15]

....I think in the coming years there will be so many men burned by hypergamy, unfair divorce laws, and out-of-control feminist entitlement that MGTOW is an eventuality....

......MGTOW will one day claim The House, The Senate, The Judiciary and the greatest prize: The Presidency.....

In terms of the US Congress, I don't think that there are any MGTOW/incels in the US Congress.

Lindsey Graham, Tim Scott, and Cory Booker are the closest.

Lindsey Graham is 68, never married, no children. He has been a US Senator since 2003 and was in the US House from 1995-2003. He claims to have had a few girlfriends lifetime, including nearly marrying a flight attendant in Europe decades ago. There have been rumors that he is gay as well.

Tim Scott is 58 and a lifelong bachelor. He was a virgin into his 30s. He currently has a 47 year old single mom girlfriend.

Who is Tim Scott’s fiancée? Meet Mindy Noce

Sen. Tim Scott is engaged to be married — months after he and his mystery girlfriend went public following intense speculation and growing curiosity about the Republican’s love life.

nypost.com

Cory Booker is 54 and never married but did have a high profile girlfriend in actress Rosario Dawson from 2019-2022.

All 3 ran for President at some point.

Graham ran for President in the 2016 election cycle and dropped out before the first caucus/primary in late 2015. Scott ran for President in 2024 cycle and dropped out before the first caucus/primary in late 2023. Booker ran for President in the 2020 cycle and also dropped out before the first caucus/primary in January 2020.

I think the biggest mistake men ever made in this country was giving women the right to vote in 1920. If you think about the country its been all down hill since then, way to much tolerance in society, things that would of been frowned upon 50 years ago are the norm now. Single parent families , people on welfare, gays & trannys, none of that was socially acceptable 50 years ago. With more and more women entering the political and judicial systems I see it only getting worse until this country falls apart.

This is becoming a more common sentiment. Pearl of JustPearlyThings has said the same thing. There's been more welfare and more irresponsible government spending since women gained the right to vote.

I don't oppose women having the right to vote. However, women's power has grown far too much since they earned the right to vote.

History.com also had an article that women weren't fully free to vote until the 1965 Voting Rights Act.

Why the 19th Amendment Did Not Guarantee All Women the Right to Vote | HISTORY

Despite the adoption of the 19th Amendment, many women of color, immigrant women and poorer women continued to face barriers at the polls.

www.history.com

 

[soulforge]

In todays world women have too many rights and men are left in ruins. There are women I know that have kicked out their husbands they have children the guy is getting raked over the coals paying child support, he's bleeding more money, most of the time the guy loses the house if they owned one. There are some new laws I heard of that screw guys over even more if you are in a common law relationship. If you've lived together for 2 years "Common Law" you are essentially a married couple, if you have children even more fvcking over the men.

A woman I currently know she separated from her husband she has the children of course, she's in the market of buying a house with her job and child support coming in per month she's able to spend up to 2 grand a month for a mortgage I bet ya she's getting minimum 800 a month in child support I bet its closer to 1000. Her desk job she has she probably clears 3000 a month it might be more, her monthly income now is 4 grand all clear.

It is not worth getting involved with women, I live in Western Canada guys have no chance of surviving when things go south in a relationship or marriage he's fvcked financially for years to decades. So many married guys tell me its not worth it, one of my married buddies says stay single don't even get involved with women.

I have full financial freedom I know where my money is going, my pension money is being invested, I will be building a new roof over my head in my future I own a chunk of earth its all mine. I have the freedom to do what I want when I want, ya I have female friends I don't bang them. There is no incentive to get involved with a woman.

Don't get Married... Don't live with her.. Problem solved.

 

[SW15]

First off, what actually is MGTOW? Is there a universal definition.

I associate MGTOW with men who do not get laid through conventional dating means. A lot of MGTOWs overlap with incels. Some MGTOWs pay directly for sex so they are incels since they are having sex. MGTOWs generally do not date. A guy who dates but doesn't get into LTRs/doesn't marry would have more of the player or pickup artist (PUA) label.

I disagree with @Solomon 's idea that MGTOW is dying. More and more men aren't getting laid and aren't in relationships.

Women generally do not care about the ranks of MGTOWs growing. These are men who women have already rejected from the dating market. Men do not go MGTOW unless they've been rejected a certain number of times.

 

[soulforge]

Your in the same boat as others I know, women milking the system they know they'll get what they want the courts side with women 99% of the time and the guy gets screwed. The worst thing ever to do is get a woman pregnant your life is over with financially for the next 18 years.

Bro this hit me hard. I just dated a young chick who was desperate to get pregnant by me.. Glad I dodged that huge bullet.

Once she is carrying that baby, she got you by the balls for decades to come & if she is a selfish person, damn she can make your life utter hell.

 

[soulforge]

The powers that be made it this way. In North America, men have full freedom, democracy, freedom of speech, right to religion, right to bear arms. The one and only thing they don’t that have is any power in relationships over women. If the man enters into any type of sexual relationship with a women, he is at risk of being subservient to her for the rest of his life. That way, he can’t spend any time questioning status quo. End result being more money in the pockets of the people of charge. They can’t have women stay at home and take care of the house and family while the man gets the resources. Women are very valuable consumers for them and can spend a lot of money. They had to give them full full rights, that way they will spend more money for corporate America!

In the a lot of the Eastern countries, it’s the opposite. There is no freedom, no democracy, no right to religion, no bearing arms, government has complete and utter power over your daily life (China - communist party, Iran - Islamic Republic), but the man has the power in the relationship over the women. Heck, in Iran you can have 4 wives.

Which way of life is better? Depends what you want. If you want to get a married and have a daughter and no freedom, go to the East. If you want to sleep with a lot of women and have freedom and never get married, stay in the West.

What do you call freedom though?

01. Getting drunk
02. Gambling
03. Only Fans
04. Taking Drugs
05. Watching Matrix Shyte on the Television
06. Free speech, yes between your friends. Try going on YouTube, or any media where your speech can be heard by millions, & watch how quickly your freedom to speech is gone.

In the East you are the KING of your household, those freedoms listed above, in the long run, they wil imprison you.

 

[Manure Spherian]

What do you call freedom though?

01. Getting drunk
02. Gambling
03. Only Fans
04. Taking Drugs
05. Watching Matrix Shyte on the Television
06. Free speech, yes between your friends. Try going on YouTube, or any media where your speech can be heard by millions, & watch how quickly your freedom to speech is gone.

In the East you are the KING of your household, those freedoms listed above, in the long run, they wil imprison you.

In the West one is “free” to be a loser and fvcknut.

 

[MatureDJ]

....if MGTOW gains enough momentum, do y'all think we can form our own political bloc....????....

....can we get MGTOW into Congress someday...???..

Or better yet, can MGTOW ascend to the Office of the Presidency....????....

MGTOW is the only way forward for an anti-bluepill future......

I'm waiting for an Incel to be governor somewhere, and be in favor of legalized prostitution.

The only problem is that most Incel pols lie about it - even putting introducing fake girlfriends - or are just homo. And then there are the simps.

 

[MatureDJ]

What society hasn't figured out yet is that women are the gatekeepers of sex but men are the gatekeepers of relationships.

I don't have too many chicks wanting to open my gate; maybe because the headroom is so spare.

 

[corrector]

Some MGTOWs pay directly for sex so they are incels since they are having sex.

You don't know what you are talking about.

 

[MatureDJ]

There’s a lot more male-to-female transsexuals than female-to-male ones lol so I don’t think there’ll be any problem haha

The hottest women are actually men. Just thought you should know lol.

There is the meme of TrannyMaxxing.

Trannymaxxing

Trannymaxxing, also known as transmaxxing, is the act of transitioning to another gender in the hope that it may help you to escape inceldom. There have been a few...

incels.wiki

Leslie felt that her penis and balls were useless body parts that served no purpose. The pointlessness of her male genitalia is what triggered gender dysphoria in her. Leslie did this because she struggled to gain the attention of women. She believed it wouldn't be too difficult to change gender identity as she already had a small frame, and had minimal secondary sexual characteristics. She specifically said that being male "sucked" because of the prolonged sexlessness.

(interviewer) Are you involuntarily celibate?
(Remy) Not now no. I lived as a cishet male incel up to the age of 27. I felt deincelizing was an uphill battle I wasn't going to win. As such, I assumed my feminine facial features would make me passable as a woman if I transitioned. I haven't been incel since becoming a woman.
(interviewer) How did you escape inceldom?
(Remy) Well ... I always had this inclination that women had it much easier in the dating scene. Having transitioned to being a woman, I realized that my previous inclinations were correct.

To me it's just a form of CastrateMaxxing.

Castratemaxxing

Castratemaxxing or emasculatemaxxing is the act of removing one's penis and/or testicles for the purpose of coping with one's inceldom. Of all the various subsidiary...

incels.wiki

 

[SW15]

Some MGTOWs pay directly for sex so they are incels since they are having sex.

Apparently, my brain moved faster than my fingers.

A MGTOW paying for sex IS NOT an incel since that person is having sex and not celibate.

There is a lot of overlap between MGTOW and incel.

 

[MatureDJ]

In terms of the US Congress, I don't think that there are any MGTOW/incels in the US Congress.

Lindsey Graham, Tim Scott, and Cory Booker are the closest.

Lindsey Graham is 68, never married, no children. He has been a US Senator since 2003 and was in the US House from 1995-2003. He claims to have had a few girlfriends lifetime, including nearly marrying a flight attendant in Europe decades ago. There have been rumors that he is gay as well.

Tim Scott is 58 and a lifelong bachelor. He was a virgin into his 30s. He currently has a 47 year old single mom girlfriend.

Who is Tim Scott’s fiancée? Meet Mindy Noce

Sen. Tim Scott is engaged to be married — months after he and his mystery girlfriend went public following intense speculation and growing curiosity about the Republican’s love life.

nypost.com

Cory Booker is 54 and never married but did have a high profile girlfriend in actress Rosario Dawson from 2019-2022.

All 3 ran for President at some point.

Graham ran for President in the 2016 election cycle and dropped out before the first caucus/primary in late 2015. Scott ran for President in 2024 cycle and dropped out before the first caucus/primary in late 2023. Booker ran for President in the 2020 cycle and also dropped out before the first caucus/primary in January 2020.



This is becoming a more common sentiment. Pearl of JustPearlyThings has said the same thing. There's been more welfare and more irresponsible government spending since women gained the right to vote.

I don't oppose women having the right to vote. However, women's power has grown far too much since they earned the right to vote.

History.com also had an article that women weren't fully free to vote until the 1965 Voting Rights Act.

Why the 19th Amendment Did Not Guarantee All Women the Right to Vote | HISTORY

Despite the adoption of the 19th Amendment, many women of color, immigrant women and poorer women continued to face barriers at the polls.

www.history.com

Both Booker & Scott are baldcels, but I think Booker is not Incel; in any case, it seems that being bald doesn't matter so much in the African-American community (perhaps @corrector could comment). My understanding is that Scott went to a Catholic boys school - and we all know how that transforms many NearCels into Incels. Oh, and don't forget about Kegger Kavanaugh (also went to a Catholic boys school), whom the Incel community consider one of their own.

Brett Kavanaugh

Brett Kavanaugh was formerly an incelibate, and is currently a Supreme Court justice for the USA. According to him, he experienced inceldom throughout his teens...

incels.wiki

 

[MatureDJ]

Apparently, my brain moved faster than my fingers.

A MGTOW paying for sex IS NOT an incel since that person is having sex and not celibate.

There is a lot of overlap between MGTOW and incel.

Then he is an OnlyCanGetItByPayingForItCel.

 

[corrector]

A MGTOW paying for sex IS NOT an incel since that person is having sex and not celibate.

Other mods and posters have been adamant to put any discussion with escorts in the "Anything Else" section and are refusing to treat a "civvie" (non-escort woman) as being the same as dealing with an escort woman. They don't even consider it a notch point. That is a very controversial point.

It's more likely if you are choosing to pay because you don't WANT to date, and don't want to risk a false-rape charge or have any type of potential legal risks involved with dealing with a civvie/non-paid woman, than that is MGTOW.

On the other hand, if you are choosing to pay because you are UNABLE to get a date, and the other alternative is to fap or stay totally celibate, then that's more of an escort-cel.

The issue is anyone can pay for a woman. If anyone can do that then it doesn't mean much.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

A MGTOW paying for sex IS NOT an incel since that person is having sex and not celibate.

Actually, celibacy means 'unmarried'. To abstain from sexual activities is chastity.
So, incels are actually involuntarily chaste, not involuntarily unmarried.

And while they deny that there are female involuntary chaste persons (the term 'incel' was actually coined by a woman to label women who wanted LTR/marriage but couldn't find a partner), there are female 'incels'.

However, when you shorten Involuntary Male Chastity, you get 'InMaCha', which sounds too much like you're obsessed about Japanese tea.

 

[SW15]

Booker is not Incel; don't forget about Kegger Kavanaugh (also went to a Catholic boys school), whom the Incel community consider one of their own.

Neither Cory Booker nor Brett Kavanaugh are incels. I feel confident that Booker has gotten laid since his relationship with Rosario Dawson ended in 2022. Kavanaugh has a wife and likely a fairly typical married man sex life at this point.

 

[corrector]

Actually, celibacy means 'unmarried'. To abstain from sexual activities is chastity.
So, incels are actually involuntarily chaste, not involuntarily unmarried.

To be married, you need to have a woman who wants you in the first place, so you are involuntarily unmarried if you don't have that, and also involuntariy celibate. It stands to reason if you have a woman who is willing to have sex with you, then you will get married with her (if one is a true Christian). The outlet for having sex, if you are a Christian, is to get married to a wife and have sex with her.

I don't believe that absolute involuntary chastity is possible since even looking at porn, or fapping is considered a "sexual activity" by the same people who are defining these words (ie the church). You hear of these definitions (ie chaste/celibacy, etc..) things allot in the Catholic church, and their own definition of sexual activity would include fapping.

And while they deny that there are female involuntary chaste persons (the term 'incel' was actually coined by a woman to label women who wanted LTR/marriage but couldn't find a partner), there are female 'incels'.

That's an interesting point of view. But they kept adding more definitions to "incels" so even someone with a long-dry spell can be an incel too. It's not just the stereotypical portrait of a 40 year old virgin that's never kissed or touched a woman.

However, when you shorten Involuntary Male Chastity, you get 'InMaCha', which sounds too much like you're obsessed about Japanese tea.

Japan has lots of incels and a major populatin decline too. The West will soon follow.