MGTOW is the only way to go

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Not if women decide to go lesbian on each other.
If you want to see your future, look at what celebrities are doing.
Miley Cyrus not too long ago went lesbian from Liam Hemsworth.
Do you think you MGTOW men have what it takes to go gay?
Women can easily go lesbian because all they need is love.
Men can't because our sex drive is physical.

There’s a lot more male-to-female transsexuals than female-to-male ones lol so I don’t think there’ll be any problem haha

The hottest women are actually men. Just thought you should know lol.

 

[051AV]

The feelings I get from todays women they are not faithful they would cheat in a heat beat, the second problem they want to wear the pants in the relationship. That doesn't fly with me I don't know if you would call me a traditionalist but I believe the man is supposed to be the leader. I see so many guys now following behind their girl friend like a puppy dog she's got the leash around his neck. The sh*t doesn't stink attitude todays women have is a turn off, some of these women are beasts but they still have the attitude.

I flirt with woman and chat them up but I have no desire to go any further than that I have no interest.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Effective immediately we’ll be changing SoSuave dot net to MGTOW dot net. Please set your browser shortcuts accordingly.

 

[Who Dares Win]

As I said many times I live by a soft form of mgtow, I still date and chase girls but no way at all I will consider a relationship...actually I dont even change my schedule to accomodate their needs, its less stressful to lose a girl rather than change my plans.

Now what I notice is a recent explosion of mgtow references everywhere especially in youtube videos even slightly related to dating or relationships, we can all see men becoming annoyed and cynical and most of all no longer concerned about "saving face".

Only 2 years ago it was not as open and direct as now, I guess mgtow is reaching the critical mass that will make it mainstream.

Regarding Atom, dont worry bro at your age you are done with women and even if you chase them you probably dont even remember the reason.

 

[KindredSpiritzz]

I think the biggest mistake men ever made in this country was giving women the right to vote in 1920. If you think about the country its been all down hill since then, way to much tolerance in society, things that would of been frowned upon 50 years ago are the norm now. Single parent families , people on welfare, gays & trannys, none of that was socially acceptable 50 years ago. With more and more women entering the political and judicial systems I see it only getting worse until this country falls apart. Starting to think maybe the Muslims have the right mindset when it comes to how they treat their women.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Being angry and butt hurt about things does nothing but make you miserable and turn you into someone nobody wants to be around. Good luck with that in life. Not just in life but with people in general.

 

[Poonani Maker]

I think the biggest mistake men ever made in this country was giving women the right to vote in 1920. If you think about the country its been all down hill since then, way to much tolerance in society, things that would of been frowned upon 50 years ago are the norm now. Single parent families , people on welfare, gays & trannys, none of that was socially acceptable 50 years ago. With more and more women entering the political and judicial systems I see it only getting worse until this country falls apart. Starting to think maybe the Muslims have the right mindset when it comes to how they treat their women.

You see, women can be "logical" when the opportunity arises. It's funny or diabolical when they blame their emotions or Refuse logic when you give it to them in bushels. They'll use logic, oh yeah they'll use logic, Only when it immediately benefits THEM. It's sad. NO forward thinking. NO foresight. It's their Essence. How does our (now) feminist country Survive? Unlimited FED-printing money. Businesses, the big ones, the banks....neva go bankrupt. The little Guy will but not the bigs.

 

[Atom Smasher]

The scary part is that men are becoming feminine in their thinking. Even so, at the same time, many men are becoming red pill. I don't know which will prevail in the future. One thing I do know... Nature ALWAYS prevails. Human wiring will prevail. We just might have to go through a century or more of this societal insanity until things really turn around for good.

 

[corrector]

I’m more like a “soft” mtgtow. I never chase. Barely ever approach. Always focused on my purpose and self fulfillment. And I literally rely on serendipity, lol. I leave it up to fate and pay women and romance no mind.

That is because you must be a chad/chadlite on the looks scale. You see you don't have to struggle out like the average joe. See, if you are like other average joes or worst in the looks scale, if you never chase then you go nowhere. So, saying you leave it to fate...I highly doubt this. It creates confusion when you attribute to luck what is caused by winning the genetic lottery.

Ironically that is actually when you will run into women in your wavelength. When you let go and focus on The Self.

In a weird twist of irony, a soft mtgtow while leaving the door open for women to pursue you is actually the most effective way to attract women you have a genuine connection with. This whole entire time the puas have been doing it all wrong. Men were never meant to put their purpose aside and chase women. It is women who live for romance.

Chads also don't need puas or need to do anything to really attract women. What you are saying can be applied to blackpill thought rather than redpill like you are attempting to do here.

This is pretty much my system. But I actually don’t do anything at all. It’s based on the law of least effort. I kind of leave the door open but if women don’t pursue me, then oh well, I’m going to continue my journey towards greatness regardless.

I don't do anything either, what is your point? Obviously we have different results.

But when you go chasing, you’re going to end up as a monk in the Himalayas.

Or, like me, if you are not chasing. Again, advice only works if you have looks that puts you into celebrity status footing with most women.

Being a seducer is actually the stupidest thing a guy can do considering that most humans are fvcking retarded and offer no real value.

The proper frame is qualify/dismiss people. At the first sign that the chick is a headache, I kick her to the curb.

Of course because you can afford to do that. If you are nearcel and will end up in a dry-spell for the next 10 years then you may not be that quick to kick her to the curb.

 

[corrector]

Most guys are needy and it’s a stink they can’t smell themselves. I see it every time I go out. Supplicating guys with no sense of purpose everywhere.

That is because most guys are average joes with little experience with women because they don't have chad looks.

 

[Poonani Maker]

I've seen this movie several times and know almost all the lines. Late-70s movie but Jack is MGTOW - will be up until his death, I mean, he philandered throughout his life, but still understood current woman (though he came from the Old school and had read a lot of old school literature so he understood what he SHOULD expect from traditional or historical female but that what she had become starting in HIS age of his prime, the 70s, was NOT something he'd want or be advised to want to get ensnarled in or attached/enslaved to, though he did marry morticia I think from the Adam's family and Witches of Eastwick?). May be a good study in MGTOW movie, even if it was a comedy directed by Jack himself (to make himself look good maybe or maybe not, just him getting with friends (fellow actors and peers) to produce a light-hearted movie - his peers all respected him, after all he was friends/lived next to, Marlon Brando).

 

[Who Dares Win]

I don't understand this because to me dating and chasing is more time consuming and annoying than a relationship. Is it because you are avoiding heartbreak? I honestly don't get it.

No dating and chasing is not more time consuming and surely not more annoying for the simple fact that you can take a break whenever you want or accelerate if you feel to.

A woman around you 24/7 is a pain in the ass, you have the drag of her emotions, her unlimited need for attention couple with the ridicule ability to self restrain and self control...most of them cant say no to a candy bar, do you think they could say no to that sudden emotion coming for no reason?

Also if a date sucks you stand up and leave, ghost her, stop returning her calls and so on...try that with a wife or even a long term girlfriend with whom you share places and social circle.

Even sitting in your underwear on the sofa eating hot dogs while watching a war movie becomes a privilege for a married man.

 

[Glassguy]

As a lifetime pump and dumper and resident of the c0ck carousel, I see no reason to go mtgtow. I think some guys are too conditioned by Disney programming that they overrate women and what women can provide for them. I've been having fun and meaningless sex since 1998. That's what women are for.

If you put women in their proper place and realize that they are just a backdrop to your life, then there is no problem. If you believe in Disney fairy tales, then you are going to lose everything.

Believing in illusions = becoming disillusioned.

As I skimmed through the OPS's post I started thinking of my response. Your post generalizes what I would say very well.

MTGTOW to me, is hateful and butthurt. Its a take your ball and go home because you cant win mentality.

If a man likes women......and believe me, I like women......they should get out of that MTGTOW mentality asap.

Learn to use a set of rules that benefit you in the dating game with women.

In order to go where you want to go, you first need to know what you want to get out of it. For me, its a sexual companion to do fun stuff with (drinks, dates, sporting events, social events, etc) and someone that is very sexually compatible with me.

Thats it. Great sex and lets go do some fun stuff too. Pretty simple.

So that is what I get with a rotation. If I end up in a "relationship" with someone in 2020, do you want to know what my expectations are going to be?

Same ones. They wont change. It will just be me doing the same things with a singular woman. Want to know why? Because women are not owned but rather borrowed.

Guys need to stop being ok jerking off every night because they dont like how women are treating them. Start working on yourself, change your attitude and mentality and have realistic expectations on what a woman can consistently do for you and enjoy them.

Most importantly, guys need to stop looking at women for their source of happiness. I bet most of these MTGTOW guys are miserable human beings who have no idea how to have fun and be happy on their own.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Maybe I'm a neglectful boyfriend or something but my relationships are very low maintenance and laid back mostly, with the exception of the breakups of course which are fairly horrific. Compared to countless boring dates, flakes, and sh1t tests being single and dating.

I am also a neglectful boyfriend sometime borderline ghost...the problem is that they usually are ghostbusters and can catch me in any corner I hide.

It seems like their hamster powered brain evolved in a different way than ours.

 

[Spaz]

This type of thread is really counter productive to many many men.

It's in the same league with BPD and no-fap.

If given a chance to grow, it will inevitably set root in some men's way of thinking.

Once that happens, those men will act out differently in real life due to their changing mindset, the results they get are a direct manifestation of the way they think.

OP all those hate will only generate attitudes that goes in sync with how u r currently thinking = results you see now and which will get worse in the future.

It doesn't get better unless that mindset changes.

If you really desire women, then just be great in something, not only great in ur own mind but recognised by everyone around you.

Let's say you are a church going man - and you are recognised as the undisputed leader when it comes to leading prayer groups etc.

Every women that goes there will look up to you - with admiration in their eyes the moment you open ur mouth.

See, how easy it is to get women.

You just need to level up. There's no short cuts.

As for maintaining relationships etc, learn leadership skills, empowering women beside you to be the best they can be.

That's how women wants to stick besides a man - long term.

The moment you guys start blaming women is the moment you lose ur sense of responsibility and once that's lost, you hv lost the ability to improve.

That's the danger.

Remember that guys.

 

[Solomon]

Is MGTOW dead? I just saw on Reddit about the Mgtow subreddits being banned a year or so ago and you can't find a YouTube video with Mgtow on the title anymore. The closes thing you'll find is some channels reviewing tik tok videos with an AI voice-over (there are few)

I see Sandman is active but his views are a far cry from what they used to be. Seems that MGTOW get got by the leftist censorship. I remember arguing with some mgtow guys years ago if you do not get politically active things won't change, and they chastise me, looks like I was right at the end and the chickens have come home to roost

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Being angry and butt hurt about things does nothing but make you miserable and turn you into someone nobody wants to be around. Good luck with that in life. Not just in life but with people in general.

This is the mindset that paves the way for the subversion of society. Problem is, once this mindset loses its predominance, it's typically too late.

As one ramification, we will have a major party nominee in the U.S. for the 2024 presidential election who most people realize at some level, isn't a real person (yes, there's someone playing "Joe Biden", but it's not actually him) but nothing's going to be done about it.

In regards to the thread, you'd be a fool not to be MGTOW on some level these days. To what degree is up to you. Ignoring and being quiet about things for the sake of "making friends and being popular", is what's allowed the current dystopia to flourish in the first place.

 

[eli77]

I totally agree, biggest mistake I ever made was getting married and having kids. For the past 19 yrs I have been paying child support that has been nothing less than crushing to me financially. I believe its 29% of my income goes to my fat ex which she has been sticking in her retirement account during that time, now she can retire at 55 when the last kid is 18. She makes twice what I make at her job so she has money to blow on all kinds of stupid things, meanwhile every single dime I make goes to pay my bills and I have to sell plasma twice a week just for food and gas money. Looking back I can see just how I was lied to and manipulated into giving her the family and paycheck she wanted, I was so stupid and naïve. My life has been ruined financially but it has taught me how to budget money and make due like nobody's business. She delights in raking me over the coals on medical bills for the kids she knows I don't have the money for. Every little sniffle they are in the doctors office just so she can present me with my half on another bill. Never dreamed she could or would be the c*nt she has turned out to be 20 yrs later. She even had the gall last month to take me back to court trying to claim my tax deduction on one of the kids after the first one aged out when she turned 18. ( we each had one kid for a deduction every year and alternated the 3rd one).
Thank God the judge saw right thru her greed and sided with me. The look on her face was priceless when he said no dice.
If I could go back in time i'd tell my younger self to get a vasectomy, never ever get married and just have fun banging as many as I could but never getting serious. We all make mistakes in life but my mistake will haunt and affect me til im dead. They are all sweet and loving til they get what they want and are done with you, then Satan comes out.
Heed my advice young bucks or you too could end up like me.

What state were you in and did you go with the lawyer?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

This is the mindset that paves the way for the subversion of society. Problem is, once this mindset loses its predominance, it's typically too late.

As one ramification, we will have a major party nominee in the U.S. for the 2024 presidential election who most people realize at some level, isn't a real person (yes, there's someone playing "Joe Biden", but it's not actually him) but nothing's going to be done about it.

In regards to the thread, you'd be a fool not to be MGTOW on some level these days. To what degree is up to you. Ignoring and being quiet about things for the sake of "making friends and being popular", is what's allowed the current dystopia to flourish in the first place.

You can do all of that without acting like a 5 year old man child who stands in the corner with his arms folded across his chest and stomps his foot and pouts because that mean lady rejected him.

 

[corrector]

Is MGTOW dead? I just saw on Reddit about the Mgtow subreddits being banned a year or so ago and you can't find a YouTube video with Mgtow on the title anymore. The closes thing you'll find is some channels reviewing tik tok videos with an AI voice-over (there are few)

I see Sandman is active but his views are a far cry from what they used to be. Seems that MGTOW get got by the leftist censorship. I remember arguing with some mgtow guys years ago if you do not get politically active things won't change, and they chastise me, looks like I was right at the end and the chickens have come home to roost

Being MGTOW is not part of the new path that you are in, and it's incompatible with me as well. But I think there is a critical mass of guys that are not pursuing women, that are more cautious in the work-place, or that are going to other countries that women are making a number of Tik Toc videos about it. Even on here you are seeing that it's less stigmatized if someone even decides to just deal with escorts because of fale rape charges or a busy lifestyle where they can't afford the drama and games of dealing. (ie like that guy in Australia that was slapped with 70 charges for going to a nightclub) So even if it's banned out, it doesn't mean anything since you have a high-rate of non-participation and women are reacting to it.