Article: Most Young Men are Single; most young women are not

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Maybe, maybe not, each person is wired differently and may experience different things.

That's cool, but I prefer how I feel when I'm having sex with a young woman.

 

[corrector]

That's cool, but I prefer how I feel when I'm having sex with a young woman.

Yeah, that you are not paying for, right?. (you do actually have to mention that now or people might think its an arrangment or escort as they are all one and the same notch counts).

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Yeah, that you are not paying for, right?. (you do actually have to mention that now or people might think its an arrangment or escort as they are all one and the same notch counts).

Actually, how I feel is pleased that I don't have to pretend to be something I'm not in order to get laid. I feel happy to see how much she is enjoying what we're doing. I enjoy the desire in her eyes and how she responds to my touch.

I don't think about how she should financially compensate me for giving her la petite morte, nor the infantile notion of 'notch counts'. That's more for the people who need to boast about how many times they have put their penis in a vagina in order to rip off weak-minded men with bogus courses.

 

[corrector]

Actually, how I feel is pleased that I don't have to pretend to be something I'm not in order to get laid. I feel happy to see how much she is enjoying what we're doing. I enjoy the desire in her eyes and how she responds to my touch.

I don't think about how she should financially compensate me for giving her la petite morte, nor the infantile notion of 'notch counts'. That's more for the people who need to boast about how many times they have put their penis in a vagina in order to rip off weak-minded men with bogus courses.

Okay, so that strongly implies that you did not pay for that unless she's really good.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Okay, so that strongly implies that you did not pay for that unless she's really good.

No, that strongly states that I don't pay nor charge for sex. Do I need to spell it out for you like that or do you get that now?

 

[corrector]

No, that strongly states that I don't pay nor charge for sex. Do I need to spell it out for you like that or do you get that now?

You said in the post that you do not charge for it. What is not stated is implied by definition (refer to previous post).

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi OC16,
You Guys are as bad as any fussy Women...20+years ago my Wife decided to "Jump the fence" and join a pair of Lesbians,left with a bit of theatre,beating me up in front of the Kids,I daren't fight back...Then she tried to get me kicked out of a House I totally owned had built with my own hands...It was a complete surprise to me no option B....I seriously questioned my Manhood and I was desperate...I drank heavily and would Shvag anything that moved,woke up one Saturday Morning,in an ugly Womans Bed with a horde of kids running around me,do I despise her?..No...Would I do it again?.. yes!....Back in the day I had a mate,a swarthy Maltese,short fat and No Brad Pitt,he ended up being partnered up with a Girl who would take several Guys a night out of the Bar and after silver changed hands,do the dirty deed,back of a car in the Parking Lot,that was about '65....That guy Married her settled down with her on ten acres out of Town, had seven kids and last time I heard was still happy,theres something to think about there!

 

[zekko]

Talking about this statistic is getting annoying. This is happening in the 18-29 market. A lot of us on this forum are 30+.

The top guys are controlling a greater share of the market. It's not older men hoarding 18-29s. Most people have romantic interactions with people close to their age.

Some of the top guys are older though, in their 30s and even 40s. It's true most people date close to their age, I think the average age difference is that the male is four years older. The issue with the OP's article is that young women are at their peak value. They are desirable to men of all ages, and the top guys (whoever they may be) will seek them out. A young, attractive woman will consider options in and out of her age group, although she may keep quiet about it. Then there are the young women who fall for a solid family man type and marry young - these women are the real jewels, they aren't interested in spending their prime years on the carousel.

Younger guys are not so much in their prime, except maybe in some ways physically. They are still building their value, and maybe still building their bodies as well. I had one of my worst droughts dating-wise in my early 20s. From the way some of the young guys here talk, I don't think that was as unusual as I thought at the time. And with today's culture, I'm sure things have only gotten worse for young guys.

 

[Slowhandluke]

So therefore, most young women, are taken by older guys??

So lets break this down. 60% of all young guys are single while only 30% of young women are. Lets assume there's a population of 10 guys and 10 girls . 6 out of 10 guys will be single (conversely 4 will have a gf). 3 out of 10 girls will be single (conversely 7 will have a bf).

So to summarize, 4 out of 10 young guys will have a girlfriend; while 7 out of 10 young girls will have a boyfriend. Lets assume basically all 4 of these young guys are dating young girls (this makes logical sense anecdotally and I haven't found evidence to suggest this wouldn't generally happen otherwise).

So out of 7 young girls, 4 of them are dating within their age group. That leaves 3 girls. Who are these three girls dating? I don't have any hard evident, I feel like perhaps 1 out of 3 girls maybe dating a high value chad their own age and unknowingly sharing a guy. Perhaps there might even be 2 of the 3 girls dating the high value chad. However, I think at least 1 out of the 3 girls will be dating a much older guy.

So I feel like 1 out of every 7 girls in their twenties is dating something who is 15 years older than they are. The closer to 30 the girls are, the high the odds. This is all anecdotal but I know too many older men / younger women combination. At least, maybe it's just my bias. I'm not sure. If not 1 out of every 7, it's at least 1 out of every 14.

Obviously, most of these older men are "exceptional men". No beer gut. Decent amount of money. etc.. etc.. However, with divorces, and men not marrying. There are more older "exceptional men" out there. Remember, the age bracket with the most millionaires are IIRC 50 years old.

Yeah, it would have been nice if the survey broke down who the young women and young men were dating. I think they might have found some "inconvenient truths" Usually, when things are left out of a study, they are left out to promote an agenda... if you get my drift

 

[MatureDJ]

I find it interesting how they throw the" women want men 6 feet plus" This makes 80% of men undatable

I am 6 feet tall and fit and don't have women throwing themselves at me and how come I see men 5'6" to 5'9" with hot women all of the time?

I was thinking about this the other day, if height was as important as women say, wouldn't short men have been extinct years ago?

Short men exist because women are still breeding with short men, who produce other short men....lol

Short men exist because short women are still breeding, and the DNA recombination has a spread of outcome. IOW, the short men are genetic trash who are not meant to continue on the genome; in fact, I would bet that were a study done, the results would show a correlation between a couple having a short son as a 1st or 2nd child, and an increase in average number of total children, as the parents would think, "that's going to be bare branch of the tree". There is probably also a correlation with an early, fat daughter.

 

[MatureDJ]

Any mature woman will absolutely relationship-experience-mog me.

I don’t really think about that very much anymore to be honest. It is what it is.

I remember a pair of gals I was dating in succession (I was in my late 20s, and they were a few years younger) - pretty much my last hurrah with American women. Both of them had turned down marriage proposals from 3 different suitors. One of the chicks was very intelligent, and I think that she realized that I intelligence-mogged her exes ... but in the end I still got dumped.

 

[MatureDJ]

I've noticed that the you, the OP, @sangheilios, and @Mike32ct have similar issues with dating within the age bracket. That sounds very demotivating and depressing as you only get mainly women with loads of baggage, body-counts, that are divorced (probably multiple times in some cases) that are also very experienced/seasoned, while you are coming at them too green in comparison (ie very limited relationships or engagements in comparison to her), You are like at the lower-level of the trinagle of the hierarchy of women as a best case scenario. Why even bother at that point?

It's OVER for DemotivatedDepressedLowerTriangleCels.

 

[zekko]

So lets break this down. 60% of all young guys are single while only 30% of young women are. Lets assume there's a population of 10 guys and 10 girls . 6 out of 10 guys will be single (conversely 4 will have a gf). 3 out of 10 girls will be single (conversely 7 will have a bf).

Another problem for these younger, unattached guys - especially if you consider most of these guys probably haven't established themselves career-wise or financially: Older women may not be interested in dating them, and for that matter they may not be attracted to older women. There aren't enough girls their own age available, so their best option may be to date younger (of course, they can't date too young, there's a limit there).

I've mentioned this before, but another thing taking young women out of the market is the LGBTQ movement. If you look at the numbers, you'll find this movement especially appeals to young females. And I've lost count of the number of young women I've known who decided that they were lesbians (even though they may have changed their minds later). Even if they're "only" bisexuals, that can take them off the market for a considerable amount of time if they're having an intense affair with another woman.

 

[MatureDJ]

Why should I settle for an average at best female when I see PLENTY of men who are short, bald/balding and/or overweight dating women better looking than them?

Maybe they are EscortMaxxing or SugarDaddyMaxxing?

 

[corrector]

I've mentioned this before, but another thing taking young women out of the market is the LGBTQ movement. If you look at the numbers, you'll find this movement especially appeals to young females. And I've lost count of the number of young women I've known who decided that they were lesbians (even though they may have changed their minds later). Even if they're "only" bisexuals, that can take them off the market for a considerable amount of time if they're having an intense affair with another woman.

Those types make exceptions for chad though.

 

[MatureDJ]

I've mentioned this before, but another thing taking young women out of the market is the LGBTQ movement. If you look at the numbers, you'll find this movement especially appeals to young females. And I've lost count of the number of young women I've known who decided that they were lesbians (even though they may have changed their minds later). Even if they're "only" bisexuals, that can take them off the market for a considerable amount of time if they're having an intense affair with another woman.

This is the meme that AaronClarey talks about as "women just don't like men that much". I'd bet dollars to donuts that a lot of lesbian women would switch to the other team for a Chad, but not for a Normie.

 

[MatureDJ]

Mostly due to the hair loss. I figured that, if anybody is going to cut me some slack on that, she’s likely going to be well north of 40.

I could be wrong, but that’s been the thought.

So I haven’t really tried 30s at all in a few years.

There is something about 30-something chicks in which at least some are very discriminating against BaldCels. Although I have a bald spot, my front is very verdant, and the cougars I've had all seem to like to handcomb it. I could see being short & bald as being the Incel Double Bingo.

 

[MatureDJ]

I know this because I actually have a lot of deep dark conversations with women unburdening themselves to me to find a way out of their PTSD.

Amsterdam attracts a certain number of women that would consider being a prostitute, even if they don't end up going through with it. Of course, a lot of them are going to be dark.

 

[TheGrindEqualsHappiness]

A young, attractive woman will consider options in and out of her age group, although she may keep quiet about it.

This is where your logic goes south.
First thing to understand is to stop thinking that women(or humans) use logic to decide to whom they feel attracted to. It just doesn't work like that.
They feel attracted to people that make them feel tingly down there.

About the topic:
AmsterdamAssassin summed the "old guy young girl" case much better and in more detail than I ever could.

From strictly looks wise, as happily married mid forty ex-prettyboy with good physique and really short buzzed / shaven head. I get IOI:s from younger chicks in venues where it's possible to be without shirt on.

And in work environment where I never run any game, being just my positive and really nice self, I get similarly IOI:s from variety female co-workers.

I had a period in my thirties with more powerlifter look closer to 30 BF% so I can calibrate on the difference.

I think the biggest hurdle is that my life nowadays is so totally different from 20-somethings life that it's really hard to actually relate and have normal everyday chitchat on the thigs that interest both of us.You don't neet to do that to F-close, but still it comes up at some point.

 

[zekko]

This is where your logic goes south.
First thing to understand is to stop thinking that women(or humans) use logic to decide to whom they feel attracted to. It just doesn't work like that.
They feel attracted to people that make them feel tingly down there.

Yes, and some of those people might be older guys. For whatever reason. I don't see where we are in any disagreement here.