Cold approach is becoming impossible

[corrector]

What about facebook or traditional online dating websites? @BackInTheGame78 uses the traditional online website to meet women.
The statement that swipe apps have replaced traditional online dating is not true, unless the websites do not exist.

 

[KingTurbo]

You can’t get arrested for saying “hi let’s grab a drink” to a woman.

What law did I break?

What cop is going to want to process the paperwork and report for that?

Now you have to get processed at the station andyou know the clerk is laughing because it’s so ridiculous.

Waste of taxpayer money and resources.


If guys are being arrested for just attempting to court a woman in a respectful way rather than catching actual criminals then I’m sorry our society has already fallen.

 

[corrector]

You can’t get arrested for saying “hi let’s grab a drink” to a woman.

What law did I break?

What cop is going to want to process the paperwork and report for that?

Now you have to get processed at the station andyou know the clerk is laughing because it’s so ridiculous.

Waste of taxpayer money and resources.


If guys are being arrested for just attempting to court a woman in a respectful way rather than catching actual criminals then I’m sorry our society has already fallen.

You did not get the memo. It has fallen a while ago.

 

[bat soup]

Hello everyone.

Has anyone else had the cops called on them on multiple occasions just for saying Hi and giving a basic compliment and leaving immediately and respectfully if they say they are not interested or ignore me? The approaches are done in heavily trafficked areas. For those worrying about being arrested, that's not going to happen. We actually still have a constitutional right to free speech. Harassment is repeated unwanted advances, not asking one time. But having the cops repeatedly called is untenable. And forget about it in malls/private stores since they can kick you out if someone complains.

Just google cold approach and reddit and see how the crazy feminists are acting. It's now considered creepy just to approach. And if you're unattractive it's 100 times worse. The thing that really frustrates me is that most men won't stick up for you when called "creepy" or "predatory." They always blame you for being "creepy". Even in the pickup community I've seen them blame the guy. With the modern woman, if you're ugly = creepy while Good looking= =Not creepy while doing the exact same thing. We all know this. Just because a women PERCIEVES you as creepy doesn't mean it's true. Facts before feelings.

I know many on here will blame the guy for his "vibe" or whatever if the police are called. But facts before feelings. The police shouldn't be called if nothing illegal was done. If she doesn't like your vibe, she should just say no thanks. This is common sense.

Imagine if an unattractive women came up to you and said you look handsome and do you want to get coffee? Any decent man would just say no thanks, but I'm flattered! I would rather a woman call me the ugliest guy she's ever seen then call the police on me.

This is out of control. I thought women were supposed to be strong, independent, and powerful and equal? Why can't they handle a man saying hello without putting the cops on them? Really disgusting behavior. Are women high priestesses or celebrities that can't be approached? What the hell is this crap?

I wish I could take a time machine back to 1950! Horrible female supremacy we are living under. I've had many women thank me and told me that I made their day so it's not all of them, but it's very frequent that they get creeped out. Maybe 2/10 get creeped out. Even by as simple hello! Rejection is fine but calling the cops for saying hello and asking for a date is despicable. Shame on them. Cold approach is my best bet for my situation.

It never used to be like this when I did cold approaching years back. There is clearly a social stigma about this nowadays.

Is it better in places like Poland? I know the UK/Australia is probably worse from what I've heard. How are you supposed to cold approach when you have to worry about them calling the cops? I've had jobs in sales requiring rapport building. I know how to talk to people, and I'm totally relaxed because I've done so many approaches. I was a nervous wreck when I first started many years ago, but I'm good now. Plenty of good interactions including groups where their smiling and laughing.

Sorry for the long post. Very frustrated by this lack of freedom. I feel like a second class citizen as a man.

I remember some guy getting arrested in the UK for approaching women in the street. But I think he used to hang around in an alleyway somewhere and scare women.

It's probably OK as long as you're not wearing a scary clown mask and don't have your junk out.

 

[Don of the north]

I remember some guy getting arrested in the UK for approaching women in the street. But I think he used to hang around in an alleyway somewhere and scare women.

It's probably OK as long as you're not wearing a scary clown mask and don't have your junk out.

I actually found out about him when googling about this. They arrested him twice and then let him go with no charges eventually.
That was 1stpersonapproacher or something like that in England. He also received all kinds of threats from the white knights. There was also a dating coach in Scotland who was arrested. They sentenced him to two years for harassment, but then on appeal it got thrown out. Absolutely disgusting draconian stuff.

I've seen some of 1stpersonapproach guy infields. Everyone of course blamed him. He was a student of james tusk. James tusk then made a "cover his ass" video blaming him! The one thing he NEVER should have done was film women without their consent and upload it onto youtube and he also added stupid text into the videos about him being the lion and them as the prey as a tonge in cheek joke. Another mistake, but nothing criminal. He was going around with a gopro on his chest on a bicycle and stopping and talking to women.

James tusk says that as long as you do cold approach in a socially calibrated way the cops won't be called. Not true in many places depending on the looks level of the guy doing it in 2022. Sad world we live in. Same guy tells people to ignore the woman when she says she has a boyfriend and keep going. He also says no one will notice you cold approaching at a college campus. That's absurd. Maybe 1 approach, but if you do a lot word will spread like wildfire. He needs to calibrate HIS advice.

Everyone made a big deal about 1stperson guy being on a bike. Who cares? Put a good-looking cyclist on a bike and you'd have no issues. Basically, he just sounded real shy and said to women in broad daylight on public streets "something tells me I should talk to you" Or "you look interesting to talk to" in a monotone nervous voice and got blown out immediately by everyone and left right away. How is this harassment? Facts before feelings. Bad game due to lack of confidence does not equal harassment.

They also made a big deal about him approaching a minor. Everyone who is mass approaching women who appear under 30 will eventually accidentally approach someone under 18. It's not a big deal. You just say never mind you're too young and keep it moving. I saw the women he was approaching in that one video and they all looked of age. He wasn't hanging outside elementary schools. Some people wear gopro cams when they go riding so again not something I'd recommend, but nothing criminal. In retrospect him having that gopro might have saved his ass from false allegations!

The pickup community of course slammed him and called him creepy ect. Lets keep it real, he's probably not good looking and he lacks confidence. Just his looks alone will "creep out" some women. Just because a woman feels a certain way doesn't mean anything. Facts are what matter. Most good looking guys don't need to hire dating coaches. lol All the ladies should have done was say "no thanks". He allegedly was making "misogynistic" posts on forums, but he denies all that I never saw that and that's NOT what he was arrested for.

Both guys arrested posted their infields on youtube. Never do that! It draws attention.
No guys got jail time because they never broke the law. It's not illegal to say hello to a woman yet. But this stuff can be risky.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Hello everyone.
Has anyone else had the cops called on them on multiple occasions just for saying Hi and giving a basic compliment and leaving immediately and respectfully if they say they are not interested or ignore me?

No.

The approaches are done in heavily trafficked areas. For those worrying about being arrested, that's not going to happen. We actually still have a constitutional right to free speech. Harassment is repeated unwanted advances, not asking one time. But having the cops repeatedly called is untenable. And forget about it in malls/private stores since they can kick you out if someone complains.

Just google cold approach and reddit and see how the crazy feminists are acting. It's now considered creepy just to approach. And if you're unattractive it's 100 times worse. The thing that really frustrates me is that most men won't stick up for you when called "creepy" or "predatory." They always blame you for being "creepy". Even in the pickup community I've seen them blame the guy. With the modern woman, if you're ugly = creepy while Good looking= =Not creepy while doing the exact same thing. We all know this. Just because a women PERCIEVES you as creepy doesn't mean it's true. Facts before feelings.

I know many on here will blame the guy for his "vibe" or whatever if the police are called. But facts before feelings. The police shouldn't be called if nothing illegal was done. If she doesn't like your vibe, she should just say no thanks. This is common sense.

Imagine if an unattractive women came up to you and said you look handsome and do you want to get coffee? Any decent man would just say no thanks, but I'm flattered! I would rather a woman call me the ugliest guy she's ever seen then call the police on me.

This is out of control. I thought women were supposed to be strong, independent, and powerful and equal? Why can't they handle a man saying hello without putting the cops on them? Really disgusting behavior. Are women high priestesses or celebrities that can't be approached? What the hell is this crap?

I wish I could take a time machine back to 1950! Horrible female supremacy we are living under. I've had many women thank me and told me that I made their day so it's not all of them, but it's very frequent that they get creeped out. Maybe 2/10 get creeped out. Even by as simple hello! Rejection is fine but calling the cops for saying hello and asking for a date is despicable. Shame on them. Cold approach is my best bet for my situation.

It never used to be like this when I did cold approaching years back. There is clearly a social stigma about this nowadays.

Is it better in places like Poland? I know the UK/Australia is probably worse from what I've heard. How are you supposed to cold approach when you have to worry about them calling the cops? I've had jobs in sales requiring rapport building. I know how to talk to people, and I'm totally relaxed because I've done so many approaches. I was a nervous wreck when I first started many years ago, but I'm good now. Plenty of good interactions including groups where their smiling and laughing.

Sorry for the long post. Very frustrated by this lack of freedom. I feel like a second class citizen as a man.

Ive approached over a hundred women, and only had ONE experience involving a woman who complained to authorities about me.

1/100+

 

[Don of the north]

Ive approached over a hundred women, and only had ONE experience involving a woman who complained to authorities about me.

1/100+

If you do a few approaches every day, then do the math. You'd hit your number in 1 month easily and that would be the cops called once a month on you! Also, Maybe you're better looking than me or in a bigger city.

Also, you might NOT realize that cops were called on you other times. Trust me. Cops aren't going to race to the scene for this stuff. It's possible You managed to get out of there before the authorities arrived. Another reason not to linger too long in one spot.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

If you do a few approaches every day, then do the math. You'd hit your number in 1 month easily and that would be the cops called once a month on you!

But here is the thing, though..

My success percentage of getting a woman's number was 35%, with a targeted goal of at least 30%.

And my success percentage of having sexual, physical contact with the same women from above was 33%, with also a targeted goal of at least 30%.

So I said that to say this; as long as I met my targeted goal (of at least 30%), I could care LESS about any specific woman that rejected me and called the cops.

Also, Maybe you're better looking than me or in a bigger city.

Or, maybe your game could use some leveling up.

PM me and lets talk game.

Also, you might NOT realize that cops were called on you other times. Trust me. Cops aren't going to race to the scene for this stuff. It's possible You managed to get out of there before the authorities arrived. Another reason not to linger too long in one spot.

That is indeed possible..but I am STILL at a 34% success rate.

Cops or no cops

 

[characternote]

If you're in a country where it's weird too approach strangers (Such as in England and outside or perhaps tourist areas of London or possibly up North) then I guess it could happen

I did actually read about some guy a few years back who approached a girl who was ignoring him (not interested) and it 'sounds' like at one point he tried the 'hand of god' (from RSD lol) and she called the police and he got a caution or something.

End of the day, even in the UK it shouldn't be likely at all though. What IS likely is that you will be ignored basically (unless you are very much her type and she is also an unusually sociable person. 'Game' or no game. Accept it)

 

[SW15]

James tusk says that as long as you do cold approach in a socially calibrated way the cops won't be called. Not true in many places depending on the looks level of the guy doing it in 2022.

As a guy that is at least in the 6-7 range, I'm likely good enough looking to avoid getting a cop call during my approaches.

I live in the USA and not in one of the most progressive metro areas. My city has a generally leftist/progressive bent, but the suburbs of my city tend to be more ideologically conservative. In most US metros, the areas closest to downtown have more childless singles (good for approaching), but tend to have more progressive ideologies.

They also made a big deal about him approaching a minor. Everyone who is mass approaching women who appear under 30 will eventually accidentally approach someone under 18. It's not a big deal. You just say never mind you're too young and keep it moving.

It's totally possible to approach someone under 18. I haven't done it. The mall is where I've come closest to approaching someone under 18. In certain mall approach sessions pre-pandemic, I saw some attractive females and their ages looked questionable, so I didn't approach.

In terms of indoor venues, the mall would be the most likely venue for approaching someone who looks sexually mature, but is still under 18. I could see the case for it happening in a book store, but I think book stores were a bigger risk for that 20-30 years ago. 15-17 year olds aren't in Barnes & Noble or other book stores much anymore. I've never even thought about that when doing book store approaches. Grocery stores are typically women 18+, living on their own.

It would be possible to approach an under 18 woman outdoors, but I haven't had that happen.

Generally, the way to avoid the potential of approaching women under 18 is to do approaches in areas where either college age women tend to congregate or post college 22-35 year old childless singles congregate. It's possible to do this with selecting a grocery store in an area that meets the criteria in previous sentence and also do that in outdoor venues. Malls are the venue where it's most difficult to do this. The idea is to avoid doing approaches in the suburbs where more families tend to congregate because families tend to have teenage daughters who haven't turned 18 yet.

 

[RickTheToad]

The interesting thing about your post is that the western world does indeed changes his view to " cold approach ". In Amsterdam (city of sin ) ,you are basically NOT ALLOWED to approach women. https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2016/...-ban-hissing-rude-gestures-and-wolf-whistles/

Many women that were raped or harassed
probably got cold approached first.

May I ask, how did this specific interaction went down?yiu but into a argument with a woman, or was it more like you dont even know who calle the cops on you and why?

@RickTheToad iirc is a cop. What do you think about this?

Physician's Assistant, so not even close dude. However, online, I am just a toad. ribbit.

 

[Murk]

I cold approached a 19 year old on Friday night 2 weeks ago, I don't think cold approach has changed much at all if you know what you're doing. She was outside the cab station, I struck up a convo, tried to get her to come to a bar but she was going home waiting for a cab that kept cancelling. I ordered her an uber home and took her number. That's kind of simpy looking back but really the money was nothing and she was cute.

However she will take days to reply, doesn't seem to have much data (1 tick all day) doesn't have a pic on WhatsApp (likely hasn't saved my number) I think she has a boyfriend.

I am arranging to meet her this Saturday, I think how 19 she's acting is fun and novel, imagine not being able to afford phone data.

 

[Plinco]

But here is the thing, though..

My success percentage of getting a woman's number was 35%, with a targeted goal of at least 30%.

And my success percentage of having sexual, physical contact with the same women from above was 33%, with also a targeted goal of at least 30%.

So I said that to say this; as long as I met my targeted goal (of at least 30%), I could care LESS about any specific woman that rejected me and called the cops.

Or, maybe your game could use some leveling up.

PM me and lets talk game.

That is indeed possible..but I am STILL at a 34% success rate.

Good job! Maybe you can teach me a thing or two. My success rate lately has be 0/10

 

[corrector]

What is wrong with approaching a minor? It is not illegal to talk to a minor. Age of consent in Canada is 16 years old BTW, and if its non sexual there is no lower limit.

 

[Don of the north]

What is wrong with approaching a minor? It is not illegal to talk to a minor. Age of consent in Canada is 16 years old BTW, and if its non sexual there is no lower limit.

You're trying to use logic with illogical people. There's a thread right now about an article saying basically that under 25 it's immoral to have sex with. Society has gone mad.

That's a reasonable age of consent in Canada. I always thought it was absurd that a 16/17 year old doesn't know good touch from bad touch. I remember being that age and I remember the girls in high school who were juniors/seniors. Nothing innocent about them. Also, women are 2 years ahead of boys in development. A 16 year old girl is equivalent to an 18 year old guy. Girls are fully grown at that age.

That being said, if someone ever tells me they are under 18, I'd eject like I'm in a F-16 jet going down. You can't tell how old these girls are. There's a reason they say card under 40. They've done studies and people can't tell how old people are. If you saw the porn star riley reid walking in a mall and you didn't know who she was, you'd have no idea if she was above 18 or not. I remember approaching a woman and being worried she was underage. She turned out to be 25. lol

I could totally understand people freaking out over someone approaching little prepubescent children, but it's absurd otherwise.

And yes nothing illegal about saying hello and giving a compliment to anyone. So even if you make a mistake and she's not legal where you are, just leave immediately once you find out. A simple way to do it is to say "what do you for work or are you still in college". Sometimes I've forgotten to ask that and just cut to the chase and asked for coffee if she looks busy, but then make sure you confirm in text how old she is before meeting her. Then you're covered.

 

[corrector]

You're trying to use logic with illogical people. There's a thread right now about an article saying basically that under 25 it's immoral to have sex with. Society has gone mad.

That's a reasonable age of consent in Canada. I always thought it was absurd that a 16/17 year old doesn't know good touch from bad touch. I remember being that age and I remember the girls in high school who were juniors/seniors. Nothing innocent about them. Also, women are 2 years ahead of boys in development. A 16 year old girl is equivalent to an 18 year old guy. Girls are fully grown at that age.

That being said, if someone ever tells me they are under 18, I'd eject like I'm in a F-16 jet going down. You can't tell how old these girls are. There's a reason they say card under 40. They've done studies and people can't tell how old people are. If you saw the porn star riley reid walking in a mall and you didn't know who she was, you'd have no idea if she was above 18 or not. I remember approaching a woman and being worried she was underage. She turned out to be 25. lol

I could totally understand people freaking out over someone approaching little prepubescent children, but it's absurd otherwise.

And yes nothing illegal about saying hello and giving a compliment to anyone. So even if you make a mistake and she's not legal where you are, just leave immediately once you find out. A simple way to do it is to say "what do you for work or are you still in college".

Most States (ie 34 of them), the age of consent is also 16. Again, as you said, nothing illegal about saying hello and giving a complement to anyone. I just don't think younger women are going to call the police on you compared to a jaded entitled older woman who already has male validation through her head.

 

[Don of the north]

As a guy that is at least in the 6-7 range, I'm likely good enough looking to avoid getting a cop call during my approaches.

Yeah your looks are directly proportional to the chances of the cops being called, which is quite frankly disgusting. It's called the halo effect. It's likely why ted Bundy was such an effective serial killer. His good looks disarmed women.

Ugly= up to no good
Hot= Great person.

The truth is your looks have nothing to do with your inner character as a human being.

We-are-Venom apparently has a 35 percent success rate on cold approach. Straight up gigachad. lol

If I had a success rate like that, I wouldn't worry about the cops. I could find a stunner g/f in one day.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Yeah your looks are directly proportional to the chances of the cops being called, which is quite frankly disgusting. It's called the halo effect. It's likely why ted Bundy was such an effective serial killer. His good looks disarmed women.

Ugly= up to no good
Hot= Great person.

The truth is your looks have nothing to do with your inner character as a human being.

We-are-Venom apparently has a 35 percent success rate on cold approach. Straight up gigachad. lol

If I had a success rate like that, I wouldn't worry about the cops. I could find a stunner g/f in one day.

Right but it’s all relative. Venom does his approaches in welfare lines and rent controlled neighborhoods. Nothing wrong with that. He knows where to fish and he knows what bait works.

 

[corrector]

Right but it’s all relative. Venom does his approaches in welfare lines and rent controlled neighborhoods. Nothing wrong with that. He knows where to fish and he knows what bait works.

Oh, ghetto approaches? These types won't call the police on you as they are worried the police might arrest them!

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Good job! Maybe you can teach me a thing or two. My success rate lately has be 0/10

Bet. PM me and lets talk game.