Cold approach is becoming impossible

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Right but it’s all relative. Venom does his approaches in welfare lines and rent controlled neighborhoods.

And where does DW3 approach?

Oh, that's right, he doesn't.

He doesn't approach, and no woman is choosing him either.

Life can be harsh for some folks.

Nothing wrong with that. He knows where to fish and he knows what bait works.

"And knowing is half the battle."

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Oh, ghetto approaches? These types won't call the police on you as they are worried the police might arrest them!

Or, the police might arrest certain men that are on message forums justifying the right to solicit minors.

As that appears to be the direction you are headed in on this very thread.

 

[corrector]

Or, the police might arrest certain men that are on message forums justifying the right to solicit minors.

As that appears to be the direction you are headed in on this very thread.

I dont live in your police state. There you could be arrested because a cop does not like you and wants to ruin someone's life.

Also how dare you say that saying hi to anyone or offering a complement is solicitation. Isnt that the issue of the thread in the first place with adult women? Just saying hello right? You okay with that too?

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I dont live in your police state. There you could be arrested because a cop does not like you and wants to ruin someone's life.

Also how dare you say that saying hi to anyone or offering a complement is solicitation. Isnt that the issue of the thread in the first place with adult women? Just saying hello right? You okay with that too?

How dare I?

How dare you insinuate that just because a woman is from the "ghetto", she has a criminal record and is alluding police?

 

[corrector]

How dare I?

How dare you insinuate that just because a woman is from the "ghetto", she has a criminal record and is alluding police?

I never said that. I said police tend to be predatory in these places rather than helpful. If you feel you will get a crazy officer that would wreck havoc in your life and make things worst than why you called them in the first place then you would not call them. You are more priviledged then the type of neighbourhoods you are going into so you dont have the same bad experiences most of them have that would taint their view of law enforcement. Has nothing to do with criminal records or being criminals but all to do with institutional racism.

 

[Don of the north]

Or, the police might arrest certain men that are on message forums justifying the right to solicit minors.

As that appears to be the direction you are headed in on this very thread.

That's not fair to corrector.
He never said anything about soliciting. If you notice on" to catch a predator", it's very clearly stated the minors age multiple times so the person knows and then he specifically talks about sex acts with the minor knowing full well their age and then goes to the house with intent. They have all of this recorded on text.

What does that have to do with someone approaching someone for a potential date not knowing their age? Even asking for a coffee not knowing their age yet is not illegal

He's allowed to have an opinion and he simply stated what the age of consent is in his country. I gave my opinion that I think it's a reasonable law. He doesn't live in the US. Also, you can have any opinion you want. No one can arrest corrector for that.
Also, a "minor" can be made to be any age. They could make it 25 or 21 next week and then 20 or 24 is a "child". This would be outrageous, but probably will happen. There's clearly a push to move everything to 21, so 20 probably won't be legal here for long. Check the thread about sex with someone under 25 is immoral.

I made MY stance very clear on approaches. If she says she's under 18, I leave immediately since the age of an adult is 18 here. Another concern is if you approach a minor and you exit immediately, but she makes a false allegation for attention. It might be a good idea to at least audio record your interactions if that's legal to record in a public place for your protection. I bet it saved 1stpersonapproacher's ass having those recordings. I've never recorded anything.

 

[Don of the north]

A perfect way to avoid anyone under 18 is to go to a college campus as someone else mentioned. That's actually my first choice. The selection of 18-29 beauties is amazing. You can do way more approaches than you could at the mall. But in today's day and age, the cops will likely be called. These are some of the most sjw infested places on the planet. Men are trash/R culture ect. is rampant on there. I've read online about male students getting sexual harassment warning letters just for asking one of their classmates out for a date. These women really need a freshman class to teach them what defines harassment. Harassment is NOT having what they perceive as a sub-par male ask you out ONE time. Holy hell.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

That's not fair to corrector.
He never said anything about soliciting.

That's not fair to Venom, either....because Venom never said anything about picking up women in "welfare lines" or "rent controlled" neighborhoods.

Not only is that statement bogus and untrue, but yo boy here chimed into the conversation and added his own little flavor in it by calling these imaginary women, "ghetto".

So I dont need any lectures on what is/isn't fair here.

If you notice on" to catch a predator", it's very clearly stated the minors age multiple times so the person knows and then he specifically talks about sex acts with the minor knowing full well their age and then goes to the house with intent. They have all of this recorded on text.

Yeah and if you notice on "We Are Venom's" posts, its very clear that he talks about men building up confidence to approach women.

He specifically gives out insight and tips on how to achieve this.

What does that have to do with someone approaching someone for a potential date not knowing their age? Even asking for a coffee not knowing their age yet is not illegal

What does anything Venom has EVER said on here have to do with welfare lines, rent controlled neighborhoods, or the ghetto?

He's allowed to have an opinion and he simply stated what the age of consent is in his country.

And Venom is allowed to have an opinion, too...and he simply states what has transpired in his own life/experiences.

I gave my opinion that I think it's a reasonable law. He doesn't live in the US. Also, you can have any opinion you want. No one can arrest corrector for that.
Also, a "minor" can be made to be any age. They could make it 25 or 21 next week and then 20 or 24 is a "child". This would be outrageous, but probably will happen. There's clearly a push to move everything to 21, so 20 probably won't be legal here for long. Check the thread about sex with someone under 25 is immoral.

I made MY stance very clear on approaches. If she says she's under 18, I leave immediately since the age of an adult is 18 here. Another concern is if you approach a minor and you exit immediately, but she makes a false allegation for attention. It might be a good idea to at least audio record your interactions if that's legal to record in a public place for your protection. I bet it saved 1stpersonapproacher's ass having those recordings. I've never recorded anything.

Yeah, yeah, yeah..save the rest for your book.

Bottom line is; dont do it to me, and I wont do it to you.

 

[corrector]

What does anything Venom has EVER said on here have to do with welfare lines, rent controlled neighborhoods, or the ghetto?

Look, I have nothing against you or anyone IF that was an approach strategy, which it clearly is not. If there was an efficient approach strategy then I'd never cry down an approach concept that works. Please show me where I was critical of that? However, when I talk about approaching and talking to minors, above a country's or state's legal age of consent, and it's based on mutual attraction, then it seems you were critical of that as an approach strategy.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Look, I have nothing against you or anyone IF that was an approach strategy, which it clearly is not.

?

If there was an efficient approach strategy then I'd never cry down an approach concept that works.

There is an efficient approach strategy.

Mines.

Please show me where I was critical of that? However, when I talk about approaching and talking to minors, above a country's or state's legal age of consent, and it's based on mutual attraction, then it seems you were critical of that as an approach strategy.

Lets forget about it.

*Handshake*

 

[KingTurbo]

No.



Ive approached over a hundred women, and only had ONE experience involving a woman who complained to authorities about me.

1/100+

I agree.

Even in the time it even takes an officer to respond,arrive,deal with you. You could just walk away. First responders usually work within a 7-10 min window. Any idiot who stands around arguing with the women just deserves the punishment at that point.

What are these guys saying to get themselves arrested, what’s the parameters here. Just saying Hi cannot get you arrested.

 

[KingTurbo]

Actually, in my neck of the woods it can depending on the woman he just said hi to.

No matter how benign the approach (i.e. a simple "hi"), some women will still feel "harassed," call police and the police are obligated to take seriously unless and until it's proven that it was not harassment, which is a huge PITA for the guy NO DOUBT.

Sadly, same when a woman cries rape. By law, the police are obligated to take it seriously, conduct an investigation until it's proven it was not rape (or that it was).

I hate to say but women really do have most of the power in these types of situations.

Personally I think it's a sad day when a man can't even say "hi" to a woman without her going batshyt craze, accusing the guy of harassment or godonlyknows what else depending on what type of mood she's in that day.

Just yesterday, I was walking back to the office from lunchbreak and this random dude approached me on the street and was trying to talk to me. He wasn't rude at all nor did I feel threatened in any way. It was broad daylight with lots of people around.

I was in a decent mood so I chatted with him a bit while we walked, even though I would have preferred he go away but it was only a few more minutes till I arrived at my office.

Once back, I told my female friend/co-worker about it and SHE went freakin crazy, telling me I should have called the police!!!

I mean she was yelling at me for not calling the police right then and there even tho the guy did nothing except attempt to have a pleasant conversation with me.

Outcome: He asked for my number, told me he would like to buy me dinner, I told him thanks I'm married and that was that.

First of all. Any guy who says he wants to buy a woman dinner on the first conversation is desperate. Men who understand women, dont ask for numbers.

What if he didn't bring up dinner, made you laugh and said "I think your a cool girl. Let's continue our conversation over the phone, add your number in my phone." (Hands phone to you, eye contact)

 

[corrector]

Actually, in my neck of the woods it can depending on the woman he just said hi to.

No matter how benign the approach (i.e. a simple "hi"), some women will still feel "harassed," call police and the police are obligated to take seriously unless and until it's proven that it was not harassment, which is a huge PITA for the guy NO DOUBT.

Sadly, same when a woman cries rape. By law, the police are obligated to take it seriously, conduct an investigation until it's proven it was not rape (or that it was).

I hate to say but women really do have most of the power in these types of situations.

Personally I think it's a sad day when a man can't even say "hi" to a woman without her going batshyt craze, accusing the guy of harassment or godonlyknows what else depending on what type of mood she's in that day.

Just yesterday, I was walking back to the office from lunchbreak and this random dude approached me on the street and was trying to talk to me. He wasn't rude at all nor did I feel threatened in any way. It was broad daylight with lots of people around.

I was in a decent mood so I chatted with him a bit while we walked, even though I would have preferred he go away but it was only a few more minutes till I arrived at my office.

Once back, I told my female friend/co-worker about it and SHE went freakin crazy, telling me I should have called the police!!!

I mean she was yelling at me for not calling the police right then and there even tho the guy did nothing except attempt to have a pleasant conversation with me.

Outcome: He asked for my number, told me he would like to buy me dinner, I told him thanks I'm married and that was that.

Well said. Your friend just said that without knowing if the guy was hot or not?

 

[Don of the north]

Actually, in my neck of the woods it can depending on the woman he just said hi to.

No matter how benign the approach (i.e. a simple "hi"), some women will still feel "harassed," call police and the police are obligated to take seriously unless and until it's proven that it was not harassment, which is a huge PITA for the guy NO DOUBT.

Sadly, same when a woman cries rape. By law, the police are obligated to take it seriously, conduct an investigation until it's proven it was not rape (or that it was).

I hate to say but women really do have most of the power in these types of situations.

Personally I think it's a sad day when a man can't even say "hi" to a woman without her going batshyt craze, accusing the guy of harassment or godonlyknows what else depending on what type of mood she's in that day.

Just yesterday, I was walking back to the office from lunchbreak and this random dude approached me on the street and was trying to talk to me. He wasn't rude at all nor did I feel threatened in any way. It was broad daylight with lots of people around.

I was in a decent mood so I chatted with him a bit while we walked, even though I would have preferred he go away but it was only a few more minutes till I arrived at my office.

Once back, I told my female friend/co-worker about it and SHE went freakin crazy, telling me I should have called the police!!!

I mean she was yelling at me for not calling the police right then and there even tho the guy did nothing except attempt to have a pleasant conversation with me.

Outcome: He asked for my number, told me he would like to buy me dinner, I told him thanks I'm married and that was that.

Bingo. Your coworker is a nutjob, but it's actually scarily quite common thanks to the feminist brainwashing. Welcome to the wonderful world of 2022 where men are second class citizens and women can weaponize the police against them. Any police encounter could be potentially dangerous, but they don't care. Oh and a lot of these women that call the cops on you are the same one's holding up defund the police signs a year ago.

You WANT equality ladies? Imagine if you gave a guy a compliment and said hello and he called the cops on you and then tried to shame you. Just because you thought he was cute and wanted to see if he was interested. Messed up beyond belief. Of course the cops would laugh at him and never respond #equality

All women AND men should have to take a course on what constitutes criminal harassment for figuring out when to call the authorities. Asking for a date and saying hello one time does not. Period. End of story. Women should be fined for misusing the police when this happens.

Any woman who makes a proven false allegation of SA should face the same penalty the man was facing if convicted. That's how it worked in Hammurabi's day.

People always think of modern man hating feminism as a left wing thing. It's absolutely across the board left and right wing. It's ubiquitous in our culture for decades and getting worse. Look at tomi lahren's rant againt men calling them all trash and she's supposed to be a right wing trad-con on fox news. They say they are fighting for equality. I'd give anything for equality.

I've tried every method of approach and still the same results. Even just saying "hi" with a smile in broad daylight on a busy street just to gauge their reaction before my opener. It Didn't matter. It was really all about the individual woman you were approaching and how infected she was with our current man hating feminist virus that is running rampant in the mind of modern egotistical females. Females are being treated like high priestesses that you are not allowed to say hello to. There needs to be a pushback against this. The entire feminist political movement has major funding. Our dumbasses are just sitting around like moron's going along with this thinking we need to protect our daughter like it's the stone age when there was no birth control and women couldn't work and there was no 911.

People need to Stop paying attention to the overused word "creepy". It just means unattractive. Pay attention to the facts, not the emotions/feelings of the woman. Imagine if you used emotions when treating a patient in an ER instead of analytical thinking when doing a med pass or prescribing meds. It would be a disaster. Specific and articulable facts. Not feelings.

 

[Don of the north]

First of all. Any guy who says he wants to buy a woman dinner on the first conversation is desperate. Men who understand women, dont ask for numbers.

What if he didn't bring up dinner, made you laugh and said "I think your a cool girl. Let's continue our conversation over the phone, add your number in my phone." (Hands phone to you, eye contact)

We use to call that being a gentleman. Nothing wrong with that and certainly nothing desperate.

But yeah, just because of the modern woman using men for attention I'd advise against dinner for a first date to save money.

It all comes down to compliance:

You're overthinking this. If she thinks hes' hot, she's compliant. If not, she's non compliant.

Well said. Your friend just said that without knowing if the guy was hot or not?

She probably assumed he wasn't. Also, being hot doesn't eliminate the possibility of the cops being called. It just massively decreases the risk.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Yup, it applies to the workplace too. In the U.S. "sexual harassment" is a BIG "no no" in the workplace, it's actually against U.S. Labor Laws and companies can be sued for it and win!

Men are required to attend seminars and there is a huge poster in the kitchen describing what constitutes sexual harassment - no compliments, no flirting, no asking out on dates, you can barely say "hi" anymore without some chick calling it harassment.

It's supposed to mean "unwanted attention" but for some women, what it means is NO attention. Women want to be left alone, like I said it's a sad day it's gotten to this point.

You’re allowed to date colleagues in the US… we give training on it

 

[Don of the north]

Yup, it applies to the workplace too. Replace the cops with Human Resources.

In the U.S. "sexual harassment" is a BIG "no no" in the workplace, it's actually against U.S. Labor Laws and companies can be sued for it and win!

Men are required to attend seminars and there is a huge poster in the kitchen describing what constitutes sexual harassment - no compliments, no flirting, no asking out on dates, you can barely say "hi" anymore without some chick calling it harassment.

It's supposed to mean "unwanted attention" but for some women, what it means is NO attention. Women want to be left alone, like I said it's a sad day it's gotten to this point.

Meeting at work is a major way couples meet. Remember people, feminism tells women "you don't need no man." They are trying to destroy every avenue possible it seems. Chad hunting on tinder only I guess.

There should be a federal law keeping employers out of the bedroom of its employees and protecting employers from frivolous lawsuits. It's none of their business who they date off company time.

Go on youtube and look at the tom brady skit on sexual harassment. It sums it up perfectly. SNL wouldn't dare do a skit like that post metoo witch hunt.

The KID GLOVES we are treating women with is honestly kind of insulting to women. That's no equality ladies. It's special treatment because you're viewed as so weak you can't even handle someone saying hello and asking if you want to get coffee. Pathetic.

 

[Mike32ct]

S.H. is usually defined as "unwanted XYZ..." But there is no 100% way for a guy to know that compliment (or date request or whatever) is unwanted until after the fact.

In other words, "XYZ might be legal or illegal, but we can't tell you which it is until after you commit XYZ." Nice huh?

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Zimbabwe,
" Are you indian OP? "what on Earth has that got to do with the price of Fish?

 

[corrector]

Yup, it applies to the workplace too. Replace the cops with Human Resources.

In the U.S. "sexual harassment" is a BIG "no no" in the workplace, it's actually against U.S. Labor Laws and companies can be sued for it and win!

Men are required to attend seminars and there is a huge poster in the kitchen describing what constitutes sexual harassment - no compliments, no flirting, no asking out on dates, you can barely say "hi" anymore without some chick calling it harassment.

It's supposed to mean "unwanted attention" but for some women, what it means is NO attention. Women want to be left alone, like I said it's a sad day it's gotten to this point.

Wow. That bad. Its good that I am self employed rather then at a cubical farm job. I probably wont last a week in such a toxic workplace. A man's own good nature could get you fired.