In Group Female Promiscuity is natural

[Pandora]

I don't feel jealousy when the stripper starts grinding on the other man because I don't have any investment/ownership of her as my woman - nor is she under my sexual domain. If I saw my woman getting pounded by another man, it would elicit a completely different response than some random stripper getting pounded by the same man. My woman has committed herself to me in some way whether she is a plate, LTR, or wife. By sexually submitting herself to another man, that elicits a visceral response in me to protect what is mine. First, I am going to use force to dissuade the man from my property; but second, it is a violation of my relationship with my woman for her to submit to another man assuming she is doing it voluntarily.

I agree it is easy to not feel sexual competition over women you care nothing about it. But if you develop an attachment to them on some level - plate, LTR, wife - that is not going to be the case. Nor do I think that this is in any way influenced by society -- it is how we are wired as men.

Exactly bro. That's my point. It's the attachment that causes the jealousy. Why did you form the attachment in the first place? It's because you were socialized to form that attachment. You took her as your wife. Imagine you live in a society where you don't wife them up. Where you don't see them as property. Would you still feel the jealousy? My point is civilization tells us to form these wifey like attachments to these women and this is where the extreme jealousy comes from.

Interesting thought experiment right? I'm not saying I am right but even you just admitted that it is possible to see women as sexual without forming possessivness.

From here on out every man will have to practice not forming possesivee attachment to women. Those days are long gone brothers. This is what im telling you. She WILL cheat or leave you. Too many options and it's in her nature.

 

[Pandora]

Well I think women do like sex equal to men, but I seriously doubt that women enjoyed sleeping with every tribe member. It's likely that they were coerced. But, for evolutionary purposes, they are still used to sleeping with a plethora of men.

Exactly. Women form love triangles all the time. They definitely are built to be able to smash more than one man concurrently. False paternity would not be a thing if they were not able to entertain more than one man in a cycle.

The sperm are literally designed to fight other foreign sperm in her uterus.

 

[Pandora]

Can't really say that when we haven't seen a true form of communism(and never will) in modern society. When you don't have any resources that are being forfeited to have the female, and knowing there is not a female for you, but the group. Just like there isn't a female for every other male. They'd be for the tribe. Why would you be possessive. They'll come and go and new ones will come.

Exactly 100%. We think that this jealousy is normal because it's all we have ever known. Ask a pimp if he feels any ounce of jealousy and he will say no. He was conditioned in an environment that did not cultivate that type of warm lovey dovey Disney possesivenes.

Many pimps date their workers and have kids by them.

I'm not saying jealousy is not natural all i am saying is that it might be socialized to a large degree

 

[metalwater]

Man, if hot women are approaching you, buying you drinks and initiating kino then you are experiencing something that 99.99% of other guys never experience. I could imagine an average looking chick doing that, but not a hot one. Fair play if that's the case. I won't argue with your reality.

girl running phase two of the dual strategy sometimes does this because time is of the essence. but your right, usually they are just continuing to be in the way and available and entertaining.

 

[metalwater]

Why you keep saying ANY guy. I never said ANY and EVERY guy. These men are men that she knows intimately. Most of them all her life. Again imagine a small town. In a small town any one particular women may have dated multiple men in the town. In a friend group usually a girl has slept with multiple men in the friend group. Happens all the time.

And yes hot women do seek sexual novelty just for the sake of novelty. This happens when you been in a relationship for 5 yrs and your girl suddenly mentions that she wants to " spice things up". This means she is getting bored with your dyck.

Also women do engage in casual sex just for pleasure. They usually are likely to do it around ovulation time. My gfs esp the slutty ones would say they only used to act like a slut around ovulation. Now do they need to also emotionally connect too, yes but casual sex and some degree of emotional connection are not mutually exclusive.

many women get a test spike a day or two before bleeding. they become horny from that and the ones that know what is going on know that is the least likely time to conceive.

 

[Striker_93]

Just by the way you write and spell I can tell women don't like you. You've got the classic clueless thing going on that women just groan at (and they aren't groaning in sexual pleasure - it's groans of intense boredom and frustration).

I'm smart, Cool, good social life and I'm handsome, of course women like me.

Me and you are not in the same league
Which is why I dismissed you earlier but you still writing me.

 

[Pandora]

Because they're more hypergamous. They're having more sex than men, not less.

Bro lol these dudes will never admit that they are wrong.

In practice, even being selective they are still having way more sex on average than men.

Pan_87 and Zimbabgaye dont seem to understand that females can be selective yet still be promiscuous. It just means that they are having a lot of sex with only the more handsome men. This is not rocket science. The average hot girl who is still single at the age of 30 has a body count of atleast over 10+ ( at the very least). This is promiscuous.

 

[Pandora]

The average woman is having way more sex than the average man

having way more sex than the average man = promiscuous

You just proved the point I was trying to make silly.

 

[Zimbabwe]

So @Pandora you admit that this is the type of women you date?



You can keep dating promiscuous women with no morals, leave the decent women for the rest of us

 

[metalwater]

The resource involved here is "Ego" and "Power" - Sexual Ego is wired into us men. Alphas will always want to dominate all the women. Pandora subconsciously knows this. That's why he's advocating "sharing".

There's no trickle down economics in sex. Its winner takes all. It's a zero-sum game, not an infinite pie. More sex for me means less sex for some other guy.

It's like the para-olympics. Pandora wants to change the Game so cripples can compete. Women and Alphas will never put up with that tho so it's a pipedream... funny thread in any case.

Most women can have sex often. They can even support gang bangs; yes... I mean how many customers does the professional service in a day.

It is not zero-sum. If you have sex with your plate and another had sex with her earlier, you really don't know and you get just as much sex. So it is not a winner take all. With women, there is always more bandwidth if she wants it.

For relationships it is winner take all; but that's the woman's focus.

 

[Pandora]

So @Pandora you admit that this is the type of women you date?

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You can keep dating promiscuous women with no morals, leave the decent women for the rest of us

You are the type of guy that thinks attractive women are not having casual sex huh. Attractive women are not having casual sex with YOU because you are not facially attractive. The hottest women can also be promiscuous bozo. Bottle service girls, club girls, college athletes etc. You lack real world experience.

 

[Pandora]

Perfect example of what I am saying about is Group dynamics in the Olympic Quarters. The men and WOMEN are notoriously all having sex with each other. The women were having sex with multiple good looking fit men and condoms are in high demand.

See sexy people live in a different world than non sexy people. Losers who only read Seduction books have no idea what happens in reality.

Sex at the Olympics Is Inevitable, Says Former Olympian

Susen Tiedtke says Olympians will continue to get it on in their sad cardboard beds, sex ban or no sex ban

www.insidehook.com

www.eonline.com
How the Olympic Village Became Known For Its Sexy Escapades

 

[Pandora]

Most women can have sex often. They can even support gang bangs; yes... I mean how many customers does the professional service in a day.

It is not zero-sum. If you have sex with your plate and another had sex with her earlier, you really don't know and you get just as much sex. So it is not a winner take all. With women, there is always more bandwidth if she wants it.

For relationships it is winner take all; but that's the woman's focus.

Exactly. These dudes don't understand that it is well within the female capacity to service many guys a day. More girls than we know have had sex with two different guys in one day. It is just hush hush...swept under the rug.

Again, I'm not saying women are sex craved *****s. All i am saying is that they are not these chaste angels that men want to believe. They are somewhere in the middle. I'm tired arguing this. I sent more than enough video evidence ( the tribe chick wanting to smash the white dude on sight), the porn chicks look at and the US Olympic housing where women were smashing multiple guys.

Im pretty much done arguing. We can all agree to disagree on this one..good post btw.

 

[metalwater]

you don’t understand that sex means different things for men and women. I’m not going to explain those differences again because I already have a million times.

Women have more sex than men because they can, not because they necessarily want to. Yes, women like sex with men they are attracted to, but sex is also primarily a tool women use to hook a man and get him invested in her. It’s like a female narcotic and it balances the playing field. Men are physically stronger, women have this sex narcotic that turns men into retards.

If men had the options and abundance that women had then men would be banging all day, every day, only pausing to eat,sh1t and sleep. Women don’t do this. Women could get fvcked all the time by anyone if she wanted to, but she doesn’t. In fact, men the world over are complaining that women won’t even associate with him.

in the modern world now, I strongly suspect that most men now go years without sex, unless they pay a hooker. So even the most chastened girlfriend in a faithful LTR is going to be having more sex than most guys.

in theory, yes, but the math doesn't work.

the girl has sex, in most cases, a man also has sex at the same time. this means that in the universe men are having 50% of the sex. it's math...

the other possibility is that 10% of the men are having much more sex than most women. but that doesn't align with our mantra that all women have thousands of options and the men zero. if all or most women are having lots of sex every day with different partners then 10% of the men is not enough. the math doesn't work and time also must be invested to do some other stuff related to SMV high.

I can understand that some women are very high count(in some cases 5 or 6 a day), but the math doesn't work for it to be most women.

math...


in short, there is something wrong with the story that has evolved. there is a story, but somehow it has gotten twisted.

perhaps we have it all wrong. it's not that the top 20% of men get all, it is really that the bottom 20% get none and they struggle for justification. much better to be part of the majority that gets none than the minority. the math...

married cucks and incels make up the 20% getting none. the math on this works out for the top 10% of men to have higher counts. the other possibility is that a huge percentage of women are also not getting any. I mean we see thousands of women that look very promiscuous, but billions of women exist...

 

[Velasco]

More girls than we know have had sex with two different guys in one day. It is just hush hush...swept under the rug

Yes I have a married chick coming to see me right now. Prob had routine sex with her husband earlier today.

 

[Pandora]

Or get attention, or validation, or just get off. You can hypothesize primacy for one motive, but its based ultimately in Madonna complex (women's don't reaaaaally like sex).

10000% validational sex is a huge reason women have sex. Also believe it or not...sometimes women just wanna get some dyck. But see only guys with REAL WORLD knowledge would understand this.

 

[Pandora]

Yes I have a married chick coming to see me right now. Prob had routine sex with her husband earlier today.

Noooo you must be lying because according to Zimbabwe and Pansexual_87 women hardly ever cheat and they certainly don't have more than one sexual partner

 

[SW15]

Anyone who actually deals with women knows they are extreeeemely jealous. Do you think women actually like “sharing” Alphas? No. She’d just rather share an Alpha than have to deal with a Beta, which I’m sorry to say is practically everyone on this forum.

This statement is valid. I have asked a few girlfriends over time about their interest in threesomes with another woman. Most women who are girlfriend level will say no, put some condition upon it that would make it difficult to do, or you can't get an agreement on who the 3rd would be. One woman told me that she was too possessive for it to happen. I have managed to have a 3some with 2 women though.

Some of my friends have also managed 3somes. Some have asked their steady girlfriends who later became wives and were rejected. Some didn't even bother to ask knowing they'd get rejected or it wasn't important enough to them to ask.

I would say that my friends are more beta than alpha. I would call one of men who got rejected his then girlfriend/now wife for 2 woman threesome is a beta.

 

[SW15]

to get threesomes is very simple. You make threesomes the condition of her having a relationship with you. The key here is she has to “fall” for you and confess that she wants a relationship, before you express any feelings for her. You have all the leverage now.

don’t ask for threesomes after you commit to a girl. Do it before any commitment, so then she has an incentive to do it. She will get turned on doing a threesome because she’s doing it to please you.

That's solid advice. I haven't handled the 3some game stuff as well as I could have. The fact that I got one is better than many. I would say threesome game is at least intermediate level game if not advanced level game.

Another way to get threesome is to have a type of woman who is into 3somes.

Competitive, athletic females are often into sex with other women, even if they identify as heterosexual. If a woman played collegiate or professional sports, there's a good chance that she's down for a threesome, even if you don't use the method @Pan87 suggests. However, @Pan87 's method will be a good method even with them.

 

[Pandora]

This statement is valid. I have asked a few girlfriends over time about their interest in threesomes with another woman. Most women who are girlfriend level will say no, put some condition upon it that would make it difficult to do, or you can't get an agreement on who the 3rd would be. One woman told me that she was too possessive for it to happen. I have managed to have a 3some with 2 women though.

Some of my friends have also managed 3somes. Some have asked their steady girlfriends who later became wives and were rejected. Some didn't even bother to ask knowing they'd get rejected or it wasn't important enough to them to ask.

I would say that my friends are more beta than alpha. I would call one of men who got rejected his then girlfriend/now wife for 2 woman threesome is a beta.

This dude keeps using the straw man argument. I never said they smash EVERYBODY. I said they can smash multiple men. These men are the ones they like. Again Olympic athletes are notorious for this so are military girls. They act like this around testosterone.