Men are now more likely to be single than women. It's not a good sign.

[Mike32ct]

Do you want to get married if you have a BA/BS degree or higher?

Possibly with the right person.

You're right about the incel population having BA/BS degrees or higher. Many guys in STEM occupations are incels. To get a job in a STEM occupation, you need a BA/BS degree or higher.

There are plenty of incel guys with non-STEM degrees too.

Most men are vagina beggars. They need a relationship for sex. You see a lot of betas in LTRs with decreasing frequency of sex as time goes on. The unattached men are often incels and often invisible to the opposite sex.

I agree completely that betas typically go with LTRs for sex. Upper tier betas with a lot of patience could possibly cold approach, but they might go months between lays.

 

[Zimbabwe]

I know plenty of women knocked up by deadbeats, so you’re right. It’s not just the guys at the very top. Plenty of bums passing on their genes too.

Those guys aren't marrying them though, the Beta with a degree would marry her and raise Chad's child.

 

[Robert28]

Those guys aren't marrying them though, the Beta with a degree would marry her and raise Chad's child.

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She didn’t even have to marry such a simp. All she had to do was date her looks match but noooo. She went from one extreme (Chad) to the other (super simp). She’s got a history of passing on hundreds of normal dudes she should have been perfectly happy with.

 

[Focal core]

She didn’t even have to marry such a simp. All she had to do was date her looks match but noooo. She went from one extreme (Chad) to the other (super simp). She’s got a history of passing on hundreds of normal dudes she should have been perfectly happy with.

cucks soyboys are in demands now for her health insurance policy and nursing her when she's sicks getting old, Hotsecks are for the top tier man.

 

[The Duke]

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the fact that this is the fattest population of women that the USA has had ever. Whats in it for a guy? Unless you find fatties attractive.

 

[Robert28]

cucks soyboys are in demands now for her health insurance policy and nursing her when she's sicks getting old, Hotsecks are for the top tier man.

And the thing is women could have both in one guy if they’d just date on their level.

 

[Focal core]

And the thing is women could have both in one guy if they’d just date on their level.

yes they do before feminisme era way long time ago in a galaxy far far away. before Beta males were left to taken care of the girls when men go to war.

 

[LucianoM]

Modern men find most modern women insufferable for marriage. Marriage is old fashion, from the middle ages, and irronicly most marriages back then where cousin and sisters and after generations they became inbred.

And we really need to stop this notion that men "at the top" have multiple women, are the only ones having children and sex with most the women. It's screams incel and stupidity, in reality is actually the opposite.

Men at the top lookswise

 

[BadBoy89]

And we really need to stop this notion that men "at the top" have multiple women, are the only ones having children and sex with most the women. It's screams incel and stupidity, in reality is actually the opposite.

So men at the bottom have multiple women, children, and sex with most women?

Almost hate to say it, but in my City, women over 30 won’t give a guy a 2nd look if he is not top tier. He has got to be everything and then they will “consider“ it. Yet women in their later 20s are so easy going it’s not even funny.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

There are a whole generation of women asking for too much while having too little, I'm not worried, I don't see myself having kids with a woman I can actually stay with

 

[Focal core]

Its time to mass cloning women and put them on age accelerated of sweet 16.. That technology should be available by now.

 

[joesknows]

I can buy this argument that the 6-7.5 looks level but not above that.

I can attest to the higher standards of women. Your last paragraph could apply to my life as well.

It's hard to say what women value in looks exactly, but from a general perspective, I have seen women's relationships with 8 or 8+ish men get very rocky when a top dog enters the room. I think it's very sobering that hypergamy may not have any end in sight. For example, she may 'attain' a top dog and then find flaws with him and not be satisfied!

 

[HaleyBaron]

@joesknows I was watching a wwe event two months ago. And something very funny showed on the tv for a few seconds. Roman Reigns was near one of the walls after doing an attack. There was a family of three: a wife, her husband, and her kid. I really wish I could find a video of this. But essentially, she yells very loudly "I love you, Roman!" And her kid looks at her mother like she is crazy. That was the funniest **** I ever saw.

 

[DonJuanjr]

I think it's very sobering that hypergamy may not have any end in sight. For example, she may 'attain' a top dog and then find flaws with him and not be satisfied!

Exactly. Hypergamy is the never ending drive to position herself to have access to men with more resources.

 

[Kinoescalator]

Agree with so many posts in this thread.

I know so, so, many women that find the low value guy, get pregers, and it goes from there. Some of the guys, even though they have low income and little chance of getting somewhere, stick with the girl and take care of the baby. I give those guys credit, even though they arent ballers, they are sticking with the girl and being a good father. The rest ditch the girl and find some other one to do the same with. Sad.

The question is do so many girls go for the low-income, unsuccessful man? I dont see much reason behind it.

I would have the feeling most of us in the community are pretty successful in our careers?

~kino

 

[derby1]

I have an MBA and I’ve never been married or even engaged lol I can’t even get past 4-5 dates lately!

so if a guy who knows the game inside out is getting this treatment, i dread to think what your average naive guy is suffering

 

[Robert28]

so if a guy who knows the game inside out is getting this treatment, i dread to think what your average naive guy is suffering

I’m getting A LOT of women from the past circling back to me. Women that rejected me back in the day, but now claim they didn’t and were always interested. Bull. One girl even told her friend back in school “I could never see myself dating him” now all of a sudden she’s interested years later. And to be honest not a one of these women look all that good anymore. I can’t get new women to give me a chance but by God women from the past sure want a chance now.

 

[SW15]

I’m getting A LOT of women from the past circling back to me. Women that rejected me back in the day, but now claim they didn’t and were always interested. Bull. One girl even told her friend back in school “I could never see myself dating him” now all of a sudden she’s interested years later. And to be honest not a one of these women look all that good anymore. I can’t get new women to give me a chance but by God women from the past sure want a chance now.

Tell them no fucckin' way!

I have an MBA and I’ve never been married or even engaged lol I can’t even get past 4-5 dates lately!

Getting 4-5 dates out of a woman from a swipe app is well above average.

MBA, likely decent job, and ex college football player should get a man some vagina.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Tell them no fucckin' way!

Don't just say this. Tell them that they're too fat/ugly now. That you would have way back when, but time has not been good to them.

 

[Plinco]

Its time to mass cloning women and put them on age accelerated of sweet 16.. That technology should be available by now.

Imagine cloning millions of hot women and what that would do to the sexual marketplace