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Getting jacked/ripped would eliminate 85% of the problems on this forum..

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Adding an extra meal to your normal eating routine is not tracking calories ffs..

Reducing one meal a day from your normal eating routine is not tracking calories.

You jokers need to stop making excuses, by trying to add super complexity to something that is pretty damn simple to do.

You guys have every excuse under the sun, to downplay the benefits of getting ripped/jacked.
Bunch of lightweights haha
If it’s so easy then every guy will be walking around with a six pack lmao. You are right it’s pretty damn simple, but not everyone has the discipline and lifestyle to support it
 

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There is no evidence that "getting ripped/jacked" leads to longer life, better health, or higher quality of life. Typically, it's the reverse. High caloric intake is associated with lower life span.

There's a strong case to be made for being physically active and moderate levels of exercise, but not for the extremes you see being promoted in film and magazines.

Very often it's an unnatural combination of:

1. steroid abuse

2. dehydration

3. excess protein consumption

4. excess calorie consumption

5. exorbitant investment of time in weightlifting (many of these guys practically live at the gym)

More often than not, it's a product of someone being highly responsive to steroids/hgh and getting that weird jacked bodybuilder look.

btw, the bodybuilder forums are littered with endless stories of gymcels so there's actually overwhelming evidence that getting jacked/ripped doesn't help at all and is a huge turnoff to a large percentage of women.
 

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btw, I've met quite a few D1 athletes in elite high profile sports programs. I've also met a number of pro athletes, and a shockingly large percentage in both groups don't have girlfriends and have moderate success at best in dating. Interestingly, many working actors with significant credits have trouble dating as well.

Even in pro sports, many teams are in less glamorous markets such as Kansas City or Oklahoma City or Milwaukee where there are few if any opportunities to exploit a "groupies scene." Not to mention probably 95% of college athletes are in low profile schools most people have never heard of.

A jacked/ripped linebacker at Aberdine State of the Crimson Hearts Wyoming ain't gettin' much play unless he has a steady girlfriend.

I can 100% guarantee OP is absolutely pulling sh-t straight out of his azz. He is truly delusional.
 
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She brought him so much peace when he came home he divorced her. 2X Failure.

Dwayne Johnson is a satanist who eats children, btw. Y'all are dumb AF to worship this clown.

Yup, and boom just like that you lost all credibility.
 

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btw, (slightly off topic) several of the most gorgeous girls I'd ever seen or met in college were elite athletes (and I do mean elite of the elite) and did not have boyfriends in college. All of their friends were fellow athletes, and almost all were same sex friends in the same sport.
 

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btw, I've met quite a few D1 athletes in elite high profile sports programs. I've also met a number of pro athletes, and a shockingly large percentage in both groups don't have girlfriends and have moderate success at best in dating. Interestingly, many working actors with significant credits have trouble dating as well.

Even in pro sports, many teams are in less glamorous markets such as Kansas City or Oklahoma City or Milwaukee where there are few if any opportunities to exploit a "groupies scene." Not to mention probably 95% of college athletes are in low profile schools most people have never heard of.

A jacked/ripped linebacker at Aberdine State of the Crimson Hearts Wyoming ain't gettin' much play unless he has a steady girlfriend.

I can 100% guarantee OP is absolutely pulling sh-t straight out of his azz. He is truly delusional.
I agree with most of your post...

But college athletes are absolutely swimming in pu$$y. Although it's kind of a groupie thing and they often fvck the same girls. It's kind of an extension of the "cool kids in high school" type of vibe.
 

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She brought him so much peace when he came home he divorced her. 2X Failure.

Dwayne Johnson is a satanist who eats children, btw. Y'all are dumb AF to worship this clown.

At least someone can see through the veil. You'll be labeled crazy as 90% cant see thru the Matrix. You cannot be at the top without selling your soul to Satan. The Cawk, I mean Rock is Illuminati. Never forget when he posted a nude photo of his daughter pool side thinking to myself did he really just post that for the world to see. It was one of the most inappropriate things I've seen a celeb post on their social media. Or the time he posted his daughter peeing but saying he forgot to censor the pic. Yeah, ok. Notice how the media labels it hilarious. Trying to normalize this disgusting behavior. Jason Momoa was caught on film rubbing his daughters chest at a ceremony. Your favorite celebs are all pedo's.

Nobody jokes about this kind stuff, let alone do a skit about it on TV unless they are one.


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At least someone can see through the veil. You'll be labeled crazy as 90% cant see thru the Matrix. You cannot be at the top without selling your soul to Satan. The Cawk, I mean Rock is Illuminati. Never forget when he posted a nude photo of his daughter pool side thinking to myself did he really just post that for the world to see. It was one of the most inappropriate things I've seen a celeb post on their social media. Or the time he posted his daughter peeing but saying he forgot to censor the pic. Yeah, ok. Notice how the media labels it hilarious. Trying to normalize this disgusting behavior. Jason Momoa was caught on film rubbing his daughters chest at a ceremony. Your favorite celebs are all pedo's.

Nobody jokes about this kind stuff, let alone do a skit about it on TV unless they are one.


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how odd, who would do something like that?
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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At least someone can see through the veil. You'll be labeled crazy as 90% cant see thru the Matrix. You cannot be at the top without selling your soul to Satan. The Cawk, I mean Rock is Illuminati. Never forget when he posted a nude photo of his daughter pool side thinking to myself did he really just post that for the world to see. It was one of the most inappropriate things I've seen a celeb post on their social media. Or the time he posted his daughter peeing but saying he forgot to censor the pic. Yeah, ok. Notice how the media labels it hilarious. Trying to normalize this disgusting behavior. Jason Momoa was caught on film rubbing his daughters chest at a ceremony. Your favorite celebs are all pedo's.

Nobody jokes about this kind stuff, let alone do a skit about it on TV unless they are one.


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It's pretty much all of them. The more money and fame they want, the more severely compromised they have to become.

But more to the point, his ex isn't especially attractive and there are many millions of men who can date and marry beautiful women without becoming roid freaks and satan worshipers like Dwayne Johnson.
 

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So attack formation, you mean to tell me every nfl linebacker or defensive end,
every celebrity who got big for a role, every big swole guy you see at the gym
is on steroids?
Every last one of them?
No, but NFL linebackers aren't really ripped. They're large, athletic and fast, but body fat percentages generally aren't fitness model level low.

Oh, and the majority of NFL linebackers are on PEDs in any case.
 

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No, but NFL linebackers aren't really ripped. They're large, athletic and fast, but body fat percentages generally aren't fitness model level low.

Oh, and the majority of NFL linebackers are on PEDs in any case.
Don't forget the role that genetics plays.

I'm not saying they don't work their a$$ off in the gym cause they definitely do, but without the proper genetics there would be no point.
 

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No, but NFL linebackers aren't really ripped. They're large, athletic and fast, but body fat percentages generally aren't fitness model level low.

Oh, and the majority of NFL linebackers are on PEDs in any case.
It is unquestionably the norm and the overwhelming majority of elite athletes in combat sports and in many other sports are using PED's. This includes but is not limited to: MMA, boxing, baseball, football, basketball, track and field, pro cycling, and likely many other sports as well.

PED's are commonplace in amateur and collegiate athletics as well, even at community colleges and probably at the high school level to a large degree. Once a few start using and gaining an edge, everyone else is forced to use them just to keep up.
 

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So what if they used PEDs? I'm assuming you guys didn't use anything and are as swole as them, or at least comparedly fit. It feels like I'm listening to guys with beer guts complaining at a bar about how the world is so unfair. You're saying how the athletes are using stuff to make themselves huge, yet what do you guys have to show in any kind of progress? If you were actually fit yourselves, you wouldn't complain. In fact, you would respect them having a modeled body. I really don't like bringing insults to people. You guys unfortunately seem like straight beta men looking down on muscled men. It's the equivalent of fat women complaining about fit women. And we know at least one of you are fat.
 

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So what if they used PEDs? I'm assuming you guys didn't use anything and are as swole as them, or at least comparedly fit. It feels like I'm listening to guys with beer guts complaining at a bar about how the world is so unfair. You're saying how the athletes are using stuff to make themselves huge, yet what do you guys have to show in any kind of progress? If you were actually fit yourselves, you wouldn't complain. In fact, you would respect them having a modeled body. I really don't like bringing insults to people. You guys unfortunately seem like straight beta men looking down on muscled men. It's the equivalent of fat women complaining about fit women. And we know at least one of you are fat.
I'm in elite physical shape. I don't take PEDs because I don't need to.
 

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I would pay to see how this discussion would went , if the environment would be different.

Let's imagine this started in a bar, and everybody got already a few in.
 

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I'm in elite physical shape. I don't take PEDs because I don't need to.
And yet you're complaining about some other guys being in elite physical shape. As you said, they're large, athletic and fast. I don't know about you, but you're sounding like how women talk about other women. "She's has big breasts, but I bet they're fake!"
 

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There is no evidence that "getting ripped/jacked" leads to longer life, better health, or higher quality of life. Typically, it's the reverse. High caloric intake is associated with lower life span.
I don't have stats on it, but that is my observation also. Being in shape is a good thing, but I haven't seen guys with a lot of bulk living longer lives. There's even a supposed correlation to running too much and an early death. There's a point of diminishing returns.

As for dating: Considering how many people are out of shape these days, just being in shape should be a big plus. It's weird, because there are more people out of shape than ever before, but at the same time there are more guys "jacked" than ever before. It's funny how both extremes are going on at the same time.
 

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And yet you're complaining about some other guys being in elite physical shape. As you said, they're large, athletic and fast. I don't know about you, but you're sounding like how women talk about other women. "She's has big breasts, but I bet they're fake!"
How is that a complaint?
 
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